Announcing FTB Infinity Evolved, FTB Tweaks, and FTB Utilities.
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We are currently working on the getting started guide that will be easily accessible in game. This will guide you through your first few days of minecraft. The best news is, its not a book. It is integrated into FTB Utilities and will be directly under the friend list.
I like the change in direction to more integration, progression and complexity. As dev of an gregtech fork, everything else would likely be strange...
There are some things i would like to know. How will the progression actually be? Strictly linear, one mod after enother? Ordered in tiers, with a few mods at each one? Or fine seperated by items/machines? Are there parallel progressions, like a way trough magic mods without touching tech and the other way around? My favorite would likely be 3-4 parallel progressions with some interaction beween each other for higher efficiency. For example TCs Alchemical Constructs need something from later tech tree to build, but they are not really needed for progression, only for quality of life.
And finally, will these utility/tweaks mods become public mods usable in other modpacks?
There are some things i would like to know. How will the progression actually be? Strictly linear, one mod after enother? Ordered in tiers, with a few mods at each one? Or fine seperated by items/machines? Are there parallel progressions, like a way trough magic mods without touching tech and the other way around? My favorite would likely be 3-4 parallel progressions with some interaction beween each other for higher efficiency. For example TCs Alchemical Constructs need something from later tech tree to build, but they are not really needed for progression, only for quality of life.
And finally, will these utility/tweaks mods become public mods usable in other modpacks?
There is a somewhat linear approach to the very beginning of the game, but that is simply a day 1 things you would normally do in any minecraft, get wood, make crafting table, get tools, start gathering resources. The difficulty has been raised a bit in these day 1 tasks, however from that point on there are many parallel progressions you can follow to reach your in game goals. Magic and Tech can be played completely separately of each other. Apart from some end game luxury items which will require significant progression in both magic and tech. You can choose to integrate both, or play them separately.
So basically, do you have to touch on many separate mods? Yes you do.
Is there 1 progression through the changes? Absolutely not.
Yes, absolutely!
Why would it need to link to a database? It doesn't do block logging or anything like that.
Will the enviorment itself be any harder? There's not a lot of struggle in infinity currently. Even starting out, and on Difficulty=3, the mobs just aren't that difficult.
I don't think I would want the mobs changed in Infinity. To me this is more of a pack centered on building. Not the struggle with mobs. There are other packs that provide that type of struggle and to be honest I don't care for most of them because they go overboard.
Pulled FTBUtilities from github to test it out before the pack launches and it's awesome! But I've gotta say, it's really not ready. I'm hoping it's just because the version on github isn't updated. It seems cool as hell, and everyone I've shown it to is super excited about it, mainly the friends system and chunk claiming, especially that client UI, everyone loves it.
Until we started tesing it... I get the point of it, to have a uniform mod which people can join onto an FTB server and instantly know how to do various functions instead of having to go look up the wiki of whatever fork of a fork of a plugin the server is using, but right now it's not a replacement for a lot of bukkit claim plugins when using cauldron and it's definitely not a replacement for forge-specific claim like MyTown2. Even mods which are protection-friendly, ie implementing forge events and fake players, will still sail straight through FTBUtilities because it's not checking block events, only playerinteractevent and fake players are specifically excluded from any checks.
It has so much potential it really does and I love the concept but in it's current form it's only going to be useful for whitelist servers and players are going to be very disappointed when their fav big servers either don't use FTBU claiming abilities or start banning more items than they have to because FTBU doesn't handle them. It's just not ready.
On the bright side though, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the forge protection mods like MyTown2 hijack the GUI from FTBU for claiming and just bypass the issue altogether.
Until we started tesing it... I get the point of it, to have a uniform mod which people can join onto an FTB server and instantly know how to do various functions instead of having to go look up the wiki of whatever fork of a fork of a plugin the server is using, but right now it's not a replacement for a lot of bukkit claim plugins when using cauldron and it's definitely not a replacement for forge-specific claim like MyTown2. Even mods which are protection-friendly, ie implementing forge events and fake players, will still sail straight through FTBUtilities because it's not checking block events, only playerinteractevent and fake players are specifically excluded from any checks.
It has so much potential it really does and I love the concept but in it's current form it's only going to be useful for whitelist servers and players are going to be very disappointed when their fav big servers either don't use FTBU claiming abilities or start banning more items than they have to because FTBU doesn't handle them. It's just not ready.
On the bright side though, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the forge protection mods like MyTown2 hijack the GUI from FTBU for claiming and just bypass the issue altogether.
Hopefully I am not alone in this. But I really hope someone creates a Evolved Guide that goes through the main mods. There are so many that I have tried using HQM Packs to learn them and its not great. As often the author of the pack makes specific recipes that only work in their pack.
If this was released earlier, it could have saved poor ol' factorization! Can't wait to play it.
A guide for Infinity Evolved is being worked on. It is a part of FTB Utilities, I believe. Rajecent (of WeAllPlayCast) and one other person (can't remember who) are the ones working on it.