An idiot on an adventure to build a Bee Brothel (Extra Bees)

[DEL 707]

For my next adventure, I've decided to go a bit more low tech and dabble in bees.
Sadly, so far it's proving more complicated then a Nuclear Reactor.

My basic goal at the moment is to get Ruby bees, I've got as far as trying to combine Water and Resilient bees to make Lapis, though no Lapis bees so far.

Here's my setup.

I have most of the machines from the Extra Bees mod.

• Genepool
• Isolator
• Replicator
• Synthesizer
• Purifer
• Inoculator
  
  And out of shot, I have
  
• Sequencer
• Splicer

Now my major problem is that I have no idea how to use these machines to make my life easier.
Can anyone give me a breakdown?

 

[b0bst3r]

Genepool - Use to process unwanted bees into Bee DNA (BNA)
Isolator - Used to isolate traits from bees into Serums - traits can be anything from bee species to humidity/temp
Synthesizer and Purifier - Used to make your serums have more Runs and Quality - Requires BNA
Inoculator - Take a serum and princess/drone and inject the serum trait into the bee
Replicator - used to copy Serums (mainly to give to other players)

Throw any unwanted bees into the Genepool to make BNA.

When you mix breeds and get a new breed (and it's pure) keep breeding and throw the extra drones into the Isolator until you get the bee species, this then allows you to Inoculate a bee should your breeding degrade into a previous species.

When you need to use the serums max the runs and quality out in the Synthesizer and Purifier before using the Inoculator to inject the bee.

Keep ALL Rocky bees they make for good production bees, injecting a species trait into a Rocky is something I do all the time once I reach the desired species I was aiming for.

Good line to start - Maroon Bees for triple honey
Then go for Imperials (Royal Jelly) and Industrious (Pollen) so you can start Alveary production which makes everything easier.

 

[Zarkov]

Use three Soul Frames in the apiaries where you want a mutation to happen (e.g. Water + Resilient => Lapis).

 

[DEL 707]

Thanks for the replies.

Tried playing around a bit and got max fertility on my resilient bees.
But is there a reliable way to get more princesses? Because at the moment I need either more Resilient or Water Princess, from my understanding I can either go hunting for more Water bees, or I can breed Hardy + Tolerant in the hope of getting a Resilient princess, then use a Resilient serum on it to turn it into a pure strain.

Also does any1 use the Sequencer or Splicer?

 

[Harros]

Thanks for the replies.

Tried playing around a bit and got max fertility on my resilient bees.
But is there a reliable way to get more princesses? Because at the moment I need either more Resilient or Water Princess, from my understanding I can either go hunting for more Water bees, or I can breed Hardy + Tolerant in the hope of getting a Resilient princess, then use a Resilient serum on it to turn it into a pure strain.

Also does any1 use the Sequencer or Splicer?

You can only have one princess but multiple drones.

 

[ESchrodingersCat]

Thanks for the replies.

Tried playing around a bit and got max fertility on my resilient bees.
But is there a reliable way to get more princesses? Because at the moment I need either more Resilient or Water Princess, from my understanding I can either go hunting for more Water bees, or I can breed Hardy + Tolerant in the hope of getting a Resilient princess, then use a Resilient serum on it to turn it into a pure strain.

Also does any1 use the Sequencer or Splicer?

Run some resilient drones through the isolator until you get the Resilient species serum. Then, inoculate some random princess of any kind that you don't need (Make sure to keep running it through the inoculator until both the active and passive species traits are Resilient). It'll take a few minutes but it's quicker than hunting water princesses or breeding, and you can make as many princesses as you have spare princesses and liquid DNA.

 

[CaseyRobinson]

Run some resilient drones through the isolator until you get the Resilient species serum. Then, inoculate some random princess of any kind that you don't need (Make sure to keep running it through the inoculator until both the active and passive species traits are Resilient). It'll take a few minutes but it's quicker than hunting water princesses or breeding, and you can make as many princesses as you have spare princesses and liquid DNA.

Or let your Resilient princess cycle in an apiary until you have a stack of a dozen spare drones, then let the new princess cycle with those drones until all her offspring are the same and stacking with the initial batch of drones. When that happens your new princess has all the same traits as the old one. It's best to use unanalyzed drones for this, so the new offspring can stack. Add lifespan reducing frames to speed up the process.

 

[Taiine]

I Keep in mind some mutations to some species require a little extra something. Some bees will only mutate if there is a certain biome, others need ores under them.

Lapis bees and so forth are amung the harder ones to get at only 5% chanse for the queen to mutate into one.

What I would recommend you doing when you DO get one is store it away for later and work on getting a second. Then use a BEE HOUSE to breed them to one of the other bees. The bee house will prevent further mutations and you'll always get back one or both of the bees bred. Use this to start mass produsing the bees you need. Don't risk dumping it into the genome, as you may not pull out the species and end up losing the bee.

 

[DEL 707]

Thanks for all the replies, slowly understanding it.
Finally got my Lapis bee, got it pure bred and made a serum.

 

[eric167]

generally with serums, I find I want/need each of the species, the one that cancels its effect, min fertility, max fertility, tolerance serums, and either no or flowers pollination.

species serums to make backup pairs of princess/drones of each species, and to transmute rocky ones for breeding.

min fertility for production runs, to eliminate excess drones
max fertility for breeding and drone production for BNA.

effect canceling, because some have nasty effects.
tolerance serums so I don't need an artic or desert biome nearby.
no, flowers, or rock flower required, so I don't need the specialty stuff like vines or lily pads.

don't bother with sequencer/splicer IMO, the first machine sets, minus the replicator, is all you need.

make an acclimatizer, run a few bees through it with sand, lava, ice, and water to get +/- 4 humidity and heat tolerances. once you get the serums though you don't need it.

as bobster said, go for industrial and imperial bees as two of your first breedings to get alvearys goings. they help a LOT.

it may also be worth it if you can to set up a nether star farm to build oblivion frames and make the breeding go faster. (1 cycle, or a bit over half a minute)

 

[Adonis0]

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it may also be worth it if you can to set up a nether star farm to build oblivion frames and make the breeding go faster. (1 cycle, or a bit over half a minute)

Just would like to correct this piece of information, in the latest magic bees, to make oblivion frames you need a dragon egg per frame not a nether star.

(There's a bee species which can make draconic dust which you can then craft into a dragon egg to get multiples of it)

 

[eric167]

Just would like to correct this piece of information, in the latest magic bees, to make oblivion frames you need a dragon egg per frame not a nether star.

(There's a bee species which can make draconic dust which you can then craft into a dragon egg to get multiples of it)

ah, thank you.
that sounds a lot easier and safer than messing with withers.

 

[Vasa]

what i hate about extra bees is that you need to get industrious(?) bees to get royal jelly to just start with basic serums . .-.
personally i never got more than noble bee . :S

 

[Adonis0]

what i hate about extra bees is that you need to get industrious(?) bees to get royal jelly to just start with basic serums . .-.
personally i never got more than noble bee . :S

Imperial bees for those, but in my opinion I quite like it

It's saying, 'well you want to skip the traditional breeding system? Alright, you can do that after you go through it just a little bit.'