I have been trying to automate my bees in my alvearies, but without success. I have a wooden pipe with an autarchic gate on it, connected to an apiarist's pipe, which is set to send bees back into the alveary, and send the combs over to my centrifuge. However, I can't find a setting on the autarchic gate to extract the bees/items when the queen dies. Currently I have it set to Items in Inventory - Energy Pulser. However, apparently the only inventory slot it cares about is the one where the princess/queen goes, since when the queen dies it stops extracting items. Can anyone tell me what the gate needs to be set on (or do I need a better gate)?
Alveary automation
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Ok, so I set it to no restone signal, and it works now (I would like the items to be removed continuously, not just when the queen dies). But This highlights a new problem: my bees have a fertility of 3, meaning I get a surplus of drones. Currently, these just get sent back into the alveary, but eventually it'll get full. Is there a way to filter out any excess drones? (I would like to send them to the genepool).
If the apiarist pipe is hooked directly to the alveary, then when the inventory is full, the bees can go on another route that will allow them. Say if you have 2 outputs. The one connected to the alveary is bees only, then the other one is anything. It will attempt to put bees into the alveary first, then go towards the anything route. From there you can just filter as normal of items and bees.
Edit: I've never ninja'd people before XD
Edit: I've never ninja'd people before XD
IIRC, just have the apiarist pipe directly next to the alveary. If the most specific option for the drone doesn't work, because the adjacent inventory is full, then it will take the next possible option, which will probably be the same route as your products. Just use a second pipe like this to split products from drones later in the line.
Edit: Ninja'd
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Pretty sure the apiarist pipe is smart. Set the side going into the alveary to any bee. And the side leading out to anything, and it should try to put the bees in until the slots are full then any extra bees/items will follow the path out of the system with all the other items. You might need a second apiaist pipe to split drones off to the genepool (i would set drones just in case something ever messes up -- set queens/princess to a chest/indexer just in case).
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Ninja, as other have said make sure the apiarist pipe is touching the alveairy/apiary and it will insert items in a smart way.
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Ninja, as other have said make sure the apiarist pipe is touching the alveairy/apiary and it will insert items in a smart way.
The option you should use is either "Redstone signal off" or there is also a blank one that means "Always on". The effect of both is always on.
Alvearies and apiaries are bugged, and don't report on their inventory correctly to the gates so that option doesn't work.
For the drones, just send the excess to your processing center and use another alveary pipe to split off drones. I recycle them, personally. IMO a large excess of liquid dna is both unecessary and wastes space. The amount stored in the genepool, the three machines that use it, and the liquiduct between is more than enough. You can even fill the slots of the genepool with stacks of 64 bees and ignore the whole thing for days at a time.
Alvearies and apiaries are bugged, and don't report on their inventory correctly to the gates so that option doesn't work.
For the drones, just send the excess to your processing center and use another alveary pipe to split off drones. I recycle them, personally. IMO a large excess of liquid dna is both unecessary and wastes space. The amount stored in the genepool, the three machines that use it, and the liquiduct between is more than enough. You can even fill the slots of the genepool with stacks of 64 bees and ignore the whole thing for days at a time.
Well I don't think there is with buildcraft, but if you put a red power regulator on the alveary and filter the drones through the apiarist pipe into a relay and then into the regulator with a specified amount of drones to keep in there, you can pull it off
If you're replying to me just set a junction of the apiarist pipe to princesses only which will go back into the alveary and then put drones only on another color to go into the relay and make sure there's a tube after the relay so the drones can fill up the regulator and then continue along the tube to the genepool or w/e storage device
That overcomplicates it. Simple any bees on the apiarist pipe (when it is touching the apiary/alveary) will insert into the block if there is room (always for the princess and up to 64 for matching drones). Any extra bees will then take any open path in the pipe, which if you set one path to all items should be the same path as your combs.
Oh, yeah I guess, scrap my idea op. Just put any bees on the pipe to go back in the alveary and then put drones on a different color of the pipe and it will try and go into the any bees part first
This is wrong and bad. Of course, any use of redpower around alvearies is wrong and bad.
K, just saying you can pull it off with red power, not sure if you've tried or done it right
Ok, I have another question about bees, and I didn't want to clog up these forums with another thread, so i'll post it here: I remember hearing on one of DW20's vids about bees that apiaries have a 10% goods production rate, alvearies give 100%, and each proven frame gives +20%. Each of my alvearies has 8 frame housings, meaning I should be getting 260% production rate. But I get way more than that; adding 8 proven frames must give at least a 1000% increase in produce (I haven't counted it or anything, so I don't know exactly how much more, but the production of things like platinum combs is deathly slow without the frames, but with 8 of them I get loads). Can anyone explain this? And are there any other ways of increasing production speed? All my bees have the fastest production trait if that is of any relevance.
Well, first of all you only need 6 frame housings for max productivity as far as that goes. Second if you didn't know Proven's and Impregnated's give the same amount of productivity, it's just that the proven frames last a lot longer, so if you wanted to you could just mass produce impregnated frames
. Once you have the fastest productivity on the bee and 6 frame housings, there's really nothing else that can be done to increase productivity, although maybe some ThaumicBee frames might give more than the standard proven and impregnated frames. Other than that I don't really know much about the apiary-alveary-frame percentagesWell, just now I managed to capture a bee villager selling me proven frames, which aren't a problem as now (thanks to bees) i'm swimming in emeralds. Frames now shouldn't be a problem. I just wondered if anyone could explain the discrepancy in the amount of byproducts I was getting mentioned in my previous post (are there any bee experts out there)?
Take a look at Milaha's Bee Math topic. There's a spreadsheet linked in the OP to do the production calculations; you can also read through the thread for background and additional details.