Advanced Solar panel too expensive?

[Revemohl]

It's not like complaining here will do anything to make Advanced Solar Panels easier to make, anyway. Your best option is still downloading the most recent version and turning easy mode on in its configuration file.
...Until FTB's mod packs are updated, I guess. Then again, seeing how both of the ones that have this mod like to be on hard mode, you would still have to manually change things to how you want them to work in the end.

 

[DoctorOr]

To Create 1700 IC2 regular Solar Panels it would require the below
5100 Glass Panes = 1,912.5 Glass = 1,912.5 sand
3400 Silicon Plates= 6,800 Silicon Cells= 6,800 tin + 54,400 Clay Dust
1700 Carbon Plates= 6800 coal
1700 Generators = 1700 furnaces + 1700 RE-Batteries+ 1700 Machine Blocks
1700 Furnaces = 13,600 Cobblestone
1700 Machine Blocks= 13,600 Refined Iron = 13,600 Iron Ingots
1700 Re-Batteries = 6,800 tin ingots + 3400 Redstone + 1700 copper cables
1700 Copper Cables = 10,200 rubber + 5100 Copper Ingots
3400 Electronic Circuits= 1700 Refined Iron + 3400 Electrum Ingots + 5100 Copper Cables
5100 Copper Cables = 30600 Rubber + 15300 Copper Ingots


Now This is not particularly a viable way to make 1700 eu/t and would take ages to gather the required resources.

Its disengenuous to use the GregTech recipe (silicon plates) and then not use the GregTech reductions in cost.

1) There is no tin cost to silicon plates, the cell is returned.
2) Carbon plates can be crafted from charcoal (or any source of carbon)
3) RE-batteries use no redstone and half the tin/wire but use sulfur and lead.

You can build 1700 solar panels (or the 3-4 HV compact solar arrays instead) solely with a large quarry and rubber farm. (With the exception of sulfur, which is a common/waste product from the nether)

Alternatively to the quarry you can pump lava for tin, copper, gold and iron and use extruders for the cobble and sand.

 

[Guswut]

sulfur

As a note, it was changed to sulfuric acid, which requires the chemical reactor. It's fairly easy to get, and you end up with a LOT of sulfuric acid for your trouble.

 

[DoctorOr]

As a note, it was changed to sulfuric acid, which requires the chemical reactor. It's fairly easy to get, and you end up with a LOT of sulfuric acid for your trouble.

Yeah I know, but that's just another machine for the processing line. Its not even 128EU/t like the blast furnace

 

[Daved1058]

I think the 1st one was a little on the expensive side for 1eu/tick i thought the 2nd one was fine... now its on the pricey side. the others im fine with but infinate energy should come at a price

 

[froggy25]

By the time you can craft the advanced power solar, it is obsolete...

The easy way of getting those EU is deploying a pump in the nether, place an endertank next to it, in your home just wire the endertank to 3 or 4 thermal generators and that's it. You will however need the nether loaded and eventually, teh pump will need to be moved to another lava pool but since the endertanks have a shared content, it's a good source of lava for many households...

And we moved away from teh topics...

 

[Daved1058]

I have solar connected to some basic machinery and use it to charge my nano and tools. I haven't upgraded them from advanced yet. Haven't needed to. As for nether lave, use a liquid tesseract, I have a link

And

I hope that helps

 

[jumpfight5]

would take ages to gather the required resources.

Yep, you'll need a Dense Ores swamp biome age. I guess the more the merrier, but I think you only need one age.

 

[dtech100]

The new recipe for advanced solar panel is fine. Older one was way too cheap and you could have a lot of them in about 3 hours of playing in new world. I think that hybrid and ultimate solar panels should be more tought to build. You need only a lot of UU matter, adv circuits, enriched sunnarium and lapis blocks - for ultimate more UU. But when you have good scrap production for matter/ mass fabricator gettiing tones of UU matter is only a matter of time. To hybrid & ultimate should be added some tought recipe - more complex than this one which is right now - something like GregTech recipes for 1 billion EU mfsu (i don't remeber the name).

 

[Guswut]

something like GregTech recipes for 1 billion EU mfsu (i don't remeber the name).

IDSU (InterDimensional Storage Unit): http://gregtech-addon.wikispaces.com/IDSU

 

[Bigglesworth]

No. Solar is boring, so it should be boring to craft. IC2 power is not supposed to be free by design. Make a reactor, make a biogas farm, refine oil, use exp, etc. Something, ANYTHING. Heck, even factorization solar to a steam turbine is more interesting.

Tiny boxes that output EU magically and pay for themselves in less than 3 days of chunkloaded gameplay are pretty damn good.

1. It is not upto you to tell others what is intresting or not.
2. Those 'magical' boxes are a real thing. They are called solar panels. The tradeoff is they only work half the time.

facepalm

 

[KirinDave]

1. It is not upto you to tell others what is intresting or not.

Incorrect. It is my sole and exclusive duty to point out obvious things.

2. Those 'magical' boxes are a real thing. They are called solar panels. The tradeoff is they only work half the time.

Advanced solars work all the time, so they should be expensive. And in real life, Solar panels are frightfully clever and complex devices growing in cleverness and complexity all the time. And we still get better efficiency from mirror arrays. But all that is a pointless aside. What's boring about solar arrays is that they are just boxes that output EU autonomously with no intervention or engineering. At the very least, factorization's system requires more thought and has a unique look and layout.

facepalm

Oh, the insufferable burden of being Bigglesworth. And a Bigglesworth just a decade too late to enjoy pre-IV-nerf Halloween, to boot! Take solace that your local Police Blotter is still the best ever.

 

[CrazyAL]

The new recipe just puts it outside of use for a 8eu/t power generation system.

What needs to be done is balancing solar panels by making them require some form of additional cost in regards to upkeep, as opposed to resources as resource-balancing will only end with the cost ending up at a netherstar per advanced solar panel before the issue is resolved.

But yeah, it's so easy to make power sans solar panels that I'm not sure why anyone would use them. Steve's Cart and nether lava are the two easiest ways to make more power than you might ever need, and add to that power converters converting steam from Factorization steam turbines or biofuel, and you're golden goose good.

Totally agree, instead of making them expensive to make they should require maintenance of somekind... this way it forces people to use other sources of energy, solar no matter how expensive you make it doesn't matter because once you get to that point you never need to find resources for energy.