36 HP Boiler help?

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AQJ

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From the wiki http://railcraft.wikispaces.com/Steam+Boiler+(Device)

Each cubic meter of Low Pressure Boiler Tank produces 10 Steam/tick which is enough to run a single Hobbyist Steam Engine at full capacity or a Commercial Steam Engine at half capacity, basically 2 MJ/t. Each cubic meter of High Pressure Boiler Tank produces 20 Steam/tick, sufficient to run a Commercial Steam Engine at full capacity or an Industrial Steam Engine at half capacity, basically 4 MJ/t.

so 18...
 

slay_mithos

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The only problem now is to hook the steam to those.

I have heard that there was a better way than golden transport pipes, in the form of liquiduct.
Not having done them myself for now, I can't say if it is true, but I read in these forums that it could feed your engines way easier than the very complex gold waterproof piping you would otherwise need.

I think you still need to attach it to many sides, but you can connect them together after that, without any problem apparently.

Again, I have not tested that, and I can't remember what thread I read that on, but it was in this sub-forum, at least.
 

AQJ

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Liquiducts is a great way to transfer out the steam, another tip is to make a large Iron Tank to store the steam in and use as a buffer
 

whythisname

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You can also just stick the engines directly on the Boiler.

Personally I prefer using Liquiducts though, as they are cheaper than redstone conduits/conductive pipes. So instead of running power through pipes to my machines I just run steam to my machines and have engines over there with only a few conduits/conductive pipes.
 

Hydra

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The easiest by far is to stick the engines directly to the boiler and use the redstone conduits to transfer power. I don't see a point personally in sending steam to a tank because you simply need a lot more piping to get it all working since the golden pipes are your main limiting factor anyway. You need the same amount of pipes going to the tank as you would need to go to the engines directly.
 

AQJ

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The easiest by far is to stick the engines directly to the boiler and use the redstone conduits to transfer power. I don't see a point personally in sending steam to a tank because you simply need a lot more piping to get it all working since the golden pipes are your main limiting factor anyway. You need the same amount of pipes going to the tank as you would need to go to the engines directly.

My problem is that my power use isn't constant, sometimes I use 200+MJ / Tick (when charging my energy cells I for my quarry, or when running heavy maschinery) and other times its just keeping up with the small use of my smelters, by adding a buffer tank I don't waste steam - I've hooked up 48 Industrial Steam Engines for burst power production, but when they aren't needed I build up steam in the tank for later use...
 

Hydra

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You could use that excess power to melt cobble into lava and store that. Lava has a MUCH higher energy density than steam per bucket. It has the additional benefit that it can also power geothermals so you have backup MJ generation and EU generation all rolled into one.

Not saying your setup is wrong (any setup that uses craptons of pipes can't be wrong in FTB ;)), just giving another option.
 

noah_wolfe

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My problem is that my power use isn't constant, sometimes I use 200+MJ / Tick (when charging my energy cells I for my quarry, or when running heavy maschinery) and other times its just keeping up with the small use of my smelters, by adding a buffer tank I don't waste steam - I've hooked up 48 Industrial Steam Engines for burst power production, but when they aren't needed I build up steam in the tank for later use...

Under normal circumstances, wasting steam doesn't mean anything as a full boiler should never be shut down. On the other hand, running 48 i-steams for burst power makes me reconsider that notion. That's a lot of juice.
 

Peppe

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4 liquiducts in active mode (wrench it and give it power) will pull out the required 720 steam/t.
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Or you can connect 9 liquiducts in normal mode - no wrench/power needed and they will be filled by the boiler @720 steam/t. Can all be on the same side -- if there was an issue there it is gone now.
 

BanzaiBlitz

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Anyone experimented with the RP2 liquid pipes and capacity with numbers? What about denoflion's Valve Pipe additions with the industrial waterproof pipes? Forget if anyone has data.

Granted, liquiducts are superior to all other options it seems. :p
 

heavy1metal

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http://thermalexpansion.wikispaces.com/Liquiduct
You don't need to put the pipe into extraction mode on a boiler since it is pushing steam out.

http://thermalexpansion.wikispaces.com/Liquiduct
Gold pipes can move 40 liquid per tick.

Now the reason you're probably getting maximum pressure is because TE's wiki says that based on viscosity and pressure it will move liquid faster. In concept, you can compress steam whereas you cannot compress water/biofuel so maybe the author took this to heart. I am excited to see you have a 36HP boiler using liquiducts that are bottle necked and running engines.

Are you engines running at 100%?

4 liquiducts in active mode (wrench it and give it power) will pull out the required 720 steam/t.

Or you can connect 9 liquiducts in normal mode - no wrench/power needed and they will be filled by the boiler @720 steam/t. Can all be on the same side -- if there was an issue there it is gone now.
 

Peppe

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http://thermalexpansion.wikispaces.com/Liquiduct
You don't need to put the pipe into extraction mode on a boiler since it is pushing steam out.

http://thermalexpansion.wikispaces.com/Liquiduct
Gold pipes can move 40 liquid per tick.

Now the reason you're probably getting maximum pressure is because TE's wiki says that based on viscosity and pressure it will move liquid faster. In concept, you can compress steam whereas you cannot compress water/biofuel so maybe the author took this to heart. I am excited to see you have a 36HP boiler using liquiducts that are bottle necked and running engines.

Are you engines running at 100%?

I know you don't need it, but there is a difference. 4 connections vs 9.

Liquiduct pipe can carry it seems an infinite amount of liquid, so you can combine multiple outputs to form a very high flow rate in one pipe.

The unpowered individual connection point seem to have an 80 steam/tick cap. I don't know if it was the steam turbine or the the pipe, but it could only dump 160 steam at each connection point on a turbine (they take 320 to run) -- this could be on the railcraft side though and the pipe might be able to dump its entire capacity into a tank or other container.

Switching the liquiduct mode and powering the connection point on a steam tank seems to be a ~180 steam/t as 4 connections are enough to pump all 720 steam from the boiler.

I do not know for sure, but i suspect the liquiduct powered mode is 100 steam/t and then since the source is also outputting at 80 steam/t it combines them at the connection point for the 180 steam/t.