[1.7.10][LISTED] InfiTech 2 Modpack v3.2.21 [HQM][GregTech balanced hard-mode modpack]

[asb3pe]

Started using the Seismic Prospector but I'm not certain it's giving me the entire picture of the 6x6 chunk region the Advanced Miner will be mining. So I guess that's one of my main questions - should the book I get after running the Prospector show me every single ore in that 6x6 chunk region, from its elevation down to bedrock?

I know for a fact there is a Limonite vein in the 6x6 chunk region surrounding the Prospector, but when I ran it, the book says there are only two Prospected Ores, and they're kind of odd in my opinion: Aer and Amber. Well those aren't even GT ores, they're Thaumcraft ores, right? So why isn't it showing me that there's a Limonite vein less than 3 chunks to the SW of the Prospector? Now granted, I ran the thing up at ground level (elev 64) and the Limonite vein is way down around elevation 30. So perhaps the Prospector works in a spherical region instead of a rectangular one, and it's missing this Limonite way out near the edge of its range? I hope somebody knows and can clue me in, the wiki is sorely lacking for this device.

Oh, something I figured out on my own (amazingly enough)... when the Prospector says it can run on Glyceryl, it means one Cell full of Glyceryl Trinitrate, which was handy since I haven't made any TNT yet, and since I had some cells of Glyceryl lying around from doing the Quest Book. Also, even tho it says "LV" on the machine, the Prospector does not need power to run, only the TNT or the Glyceryl.

Also, when it finds oil, what does "7L" mean? Is seven liters a lot or a little? I saw a video where the guy's Prospector finds 94L of medium oil, so I think 7L is very tiny, right? What does that even mean? Each Oil Drilling Rig cycle returns 7L of oil? (max is 1024mb and it's random) That can't be right. Maybe 7L equals a drilling cycle of 700mb each cycle?

Edit: I think 7L means "don't bother setting up the Drilling Rig". LOL The highest I've found so far is 307L of Medium Oil, so I think the range is 0-1024L just like the Oil Rig book describes. So I think 7L means it will begin at 7mb each drill cycle and drop "slowly" to zero... pretty quickly. haha Also, the Seismic Prospector is pretty clearly NOT scanning an entire 6x6 chunk region around it's location, and I know this because I did 2 scans 6 chunks apart, with a known Bastnasite ore vein right in the middle between the 2 scan locations, 3 chunks from each of them... and neither scan picked it up. So 6 chunks between Seismic Prospector scans is too large if we're trying to not miss any ore veins. Have any of you determined the optimum spacing for Prospector scanning? Maybe 4 chunk spacing is best? It seems to be picking up veins 2 chunks from its location.

Edit2: Another thought... perhaps everything is tied to the "center of the ore vein", and if the center is outside the range of the Prospector's, then it won't report any if that vein's ores in the scan, even tho there might be some? It sure would help if someone knew (i.e. confirmed in the actual code) what the range of the Seismic Prospector is.

 

[Jason McRay]

Started using the Seismic Prospector but I'm not certain it's giving me the entire picture of the 6x6 chunk region the Advanced Miner will be mining. So I guess that's one of my main questions - should the book I get after running the Prospector show me every single ore in that 6x6 chunk region, from its elevation down to bedrock?

Seismic Prospector scans 5x5 blocks down to bedrock

Also, when it finds oil, what does "7L" mean? Is seven liters a lot or a little? I saw a video where the guy's Prospector finds 94L of medium oil, so I think 7L is very tiny, right? What does that even mean? Each Oil Drilling Rig cycle returns 7L of oil? (max is 1024mb and it's random) That can't be right. Maybe 7L equals a drilling cycle of 700mb each cycle?

7L is 7mb per cycle. Cycle depends on Energy provided (LV - 8s, MV - 4s, HV - 2s, etc...)

 

[asb3pe]

Seismic Prospector scans 5x5 blocks down to bedrock

I sure hope that's a typo, and I think you must mean 5x5 chunks, but perhaps it is possible you were correct. If so, then the Prospector isn't nearly as useful as I expected it would be, if it's really that specific and has that small of a range. Still trying to develop some sort of ore mining strategy before I actually go and setup and run this Advanced Miner. The more I learn and ponder it, the more it seems like the Miner will be best utilized as an ore multiplier. In other words, keep playing the way I've been playing, mining by hand, but when I find an ore vein, don't dig it all out by hand. Instead, located the top layer, and place the Advanced Miner in the middle, one block above that top ore vein layer. Once it has mined the entire ore vein, stop and break it down and move it somewhere else. But not having run it, I'm still a bit unsure of how to proceed, especially since I really don't have much automated processing infrastructure for crushed ores yet.

 

[Sven "flamestrider"]

I sure hope that's a typo, and I think you must mean 5x5 chunks, but perhaps it is possible you were correct. If so, then the Prospector isn't nearly as useful as I expected it would be, if it's really that specific and has that small of a range. Still trying to develop some sort of ore mining strategy before I actually go and setup and run this Advanced Miner. The more I learn and ponder it, the more it seems like the Miner will be best utilized as an ore multiplier. In other words, keep playing the way I've been playing, mining by hand, but when I find an ore vein, don't dig it all out by hand. Instead, located the top layer, and place the Advanced Miner in the middle, one block above that top ore vein layer. Once it has mined the entire ore vein, stop and break it down and move it somewhere else. But not having run it, I'm still a bit unsure of how to proceed, especially since I really don't have much automated processing infrastructure for crushed ores yet.

He means 5x5 blocks, it's mainly a machine for analysing oil deposits.
In regards to your 7L query, it's a very small deposit. if you wanted to get the oil from it you could only get a total of 28 buckets... totally not worth the effort of setting up the rig. Aim for deposits that are more than 100L. (Myself I only use deposits ~300L or more.)
A 100L deposit can net you 5'000 buckets of that resource, but remember that half the extraction time will get you about 2/3 of the total deposit... and since a deposit is 36 chunks it would be more advisable to move the rig along, inside, the 6x6 area once you have taken up this much instead of trying to empty out the whole chunk.

 

[asb3pe]

He means 5x5 blocks, it's mainly a machine for analysing oil deposits.
In regards to your 7L query, it's a very small deposit. if you wanted to get the oil from it you could only get a total of 28 buckets... totally not worth the effort of setting up the rig. Aim for deposits that are more than 100L. (Myself I only use deposits ~300L or more.)
A 100L deposit can net you 5'000 buckets of that resource, but remember that half the extraction time will get you about 2/3 of the total deposit... and since a deposit is 36 chunks it would be more advisable to move the rig along, inside, the 6x6 area once you have taken up this much instead of trying to empty out the whole chunk.

Okay great, thanks. So in other words, we should only run the Miner when we find veins by hand or via OV Scanner I guess, don't run around the world and try to map what is below by using the Seismic Prospector. I get it now. Unfortunate, but it probably would be viewed as too easy so they keep the range really small.

One thing I noticed is that using a cell of Glyceryl Trinitrate to run the Seismic Prospector eats the empty cell, you don't get it back. Just that fact alone makes using Glyceryl an awful choice and we should be using some variant of TNT instead. I hate it when a machine eats a cell, I know it's not supposed to work that way, generally those recipes are fixed, but this isn't really a recipe.

And yes, I immediately see how the oil areas can very very large indeed, I ran 3 Seismic Scans spaced at 3 chunk intervals and got the same 41L of Natural Gas reading... meaning that gas pocket is at least 6 chunks long. Seems odd how such a large pocket of gas returns such a small amount, but I guess the two things aren't related at all, they're both just random numbers basically.

 

[codewarrior0]

I have never used the Seismic Prospector to find minerals, just oil sources. The time it takes to set up the prospector, scan the results, and print the books is a bit more than it takes to just drill down with an LV Drill and eyeball the ores, but is a lot faster than to drill down, set up the Drilling Rig above bedrock and get it running, check its output hatch, and then tear it back down.

Also, fun fact from reading the Prospector's source code: it performs one Drilling Rig cycle on the oil source, reducing its value by 1/1000 of a L.

 

[Herrminator1994]

I'm having a hard time getting the logistics fuzzy upgrade working on itemsinks. Anyone know how to do that?

 

[codewarrior0]

Most of the upgrades don't work on a Logistics Chassis. You may have to use a Basic Pipe instead. (The ItemSink module adds only the features of the Basic Pipe to the chassis. The two are functionally identical.)

 

[Herrminator1994]

Most of the upgrades don't work on a Logistics Chassis. You may have to use a Basic Pipe instead.

Weird. The fuzzy upgrade tooltip says it works on an itemsink module.

 

[codewarrior0]

Yes, that is an unfinished feature of Logistics Pipes - the ability to apply upgrades to modules. Lots of upgrades say "works in xxx module" but there is no way to apply the upgrade to the module.

If you look in NEI you'll find an unfinished item called something like "Upgrade Module Upgrade" that was intended to apply upgrades to modules... but it doesn't do anything. And probably won't ever, now that LP development is shelved.

 

[Herrminator1994]

Yes, that is an unfinished feature of Logistics Pipes - the ability to apply upgrades to modules. Lots of upgrades say "works in xxx module" but there is no way to apply the upgrade to the module.

If you look in NEI you'll find an unfinished item called something like "Upgrade Module Upgrade" that was intended to apply upgrades to modules... but it doesn't do anything. And probably won't ever, now that LP development is shelved.

That's going to make this ore processing system a lot more annoying.

 

[codewarrior0]

Instead of using Basic Pipes programmed as routes for the various ore intermediates, what I do is use a bank of locked Storage Drawers and pipe the machine outputs into the controller block, which automatically sorts them into pre-allocated drawers. Then, I use Item Conduits to extract from the drawers into the respective machine inputs.

 

[codewarrior0]

In fact, here's a picture!

 

[Herrminator1994]

In fact, here's a picture!

View attachment 30909

That's impressive.

 

[Herrminator1994]

For the moment my storage is diamond chests and Jabba barrels. Occasional storage drawers.

 

[codewarrior0]

Neat. The next upgrade after diamond chests is the GT Super Buffer with 256 slots. Its only downside, that you can't actually see what's inside it, is completely negated by putting an LP provider on it.

 

[Herrminator1994]

Neat. The next upgrade after diamond chests is the GT Super Buffer with 256 slots. Its only downside, that you can't actually see what's inside it, is completely negated by putting an LP provider on it.

Okay, that looks handy. I've been struggling to find something large enough to take a decent chunk of output from an Advanced miner II, and this looks like just the thing. Whenever it fills up, I can kick on a redstone signal to fire up a dimensional transceiver and empty it back to base.

 

[codewarrior0]

the wiki is sorely lacking for this device.

Fixed!

 

[UNG_God]

the advanced miner 2 works on a 96x96 blocks on each direction of the middle center block, so with that on mind each layer of terrain (Y level) can be dense as 10.000 blocks if there an ore on the edge it goes for it, i used it to mine a pitchblende vein and placed right above it, also limited the area it can mine by only chunk loading the vein (3x3 area) and i feed HV power to it, and took ages to just mine that , but when it had finished i had almost three diamonds chest full of crushed and dust , one of the biggest issue is not power (maybe) but drilling fluid, as each block need 100ml of it, and sometimes it dont produce enough stone dust to keep the local production going. the best choice is to located the vein you want to mine, find the center and place it on the same level of the first layer , chunk load the vein and let it run.

 

[codewarrior0]

one of the biggest issue is not power (maybe) but drilling fluid, as each block need 100ml of it

You may be right, since each block in fact needs 2,000L of drilling fluid. The miner uses 100L of fluid for each operation cycle, but only one out of every twenty cycles will mine an ore.

I quickly gave up on supplying it with barrels of Drilling Fluid, and just set up a Mixer and Reservoir on site to supply it.