[1.7.10][LISTED] InfiTech 2 Modpack v3.2.21 [HQM][GregTech balanced hard-mode modpack]

[Vliro]

This was an interesting bug. I electrolyzed some lepidolite and set a fluid tank from EIO to pull from it. It pulled the fluorine but alsol the oxygen cells, which were for some reason treated as fluorine. From 40x lepidolite instead of 2000mb fluorine I get 12000mb since the oxygen for some reason is converted into fluorine. Have 43000 fluorine now after a stack and a half of lepidolite.

Edit: works for chlorine as well, I put in some fluorine cells and got some chlorine, woo

Edit2:https://gyazo.com/eee8b41fa9cdaa1ee6619b392e6eb94a

Edit3: seems to work for everything? I just put some cells and get more of that fluid.

 

[Jason McRay]

This was an interesting bug. I electrolyzed some lepidolite and set a fluid tank from EIO to pull from it. It pulled the fluorine but alsol the oxygen cells, which were for some reason treated as fluorine. From 40x lepidolite instead of 2000mb fluorine I get 12000mb since the oxygen for some reason is converted into fluorine. Have 43000 fluorine now after a stack and a half of lepidolite.

Edit: works for chlorine as well, I put in some fluorine cells and got some chlorine, woo

Edit2:https://gyazo.com/eee8b41fa9cdaa1ee6619b392e6eb94a

Edit3: seems to work for everything? I just put some cells and get more of that fluid.

Yup. There is an EnderIO bug with fluid tanks...
Fo reference: https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderIO/issues/3302

 

[Ultimaheart4]

What kind of large boiler do you have? Keep in mind they have a heating up time where they produce no/less steam and eat more coal...also the high pressure coal boiler has the highest per coal efficiency. All large boilers are worse exept Tungstensteel that has the same steam per coal...but a Tungstensteel boiler is a beast

im using gregtech boiler that doesnt have that effect. only railcraft boilers have the heat up time.

 

[Pyure]

im using gregtech boiler that doesnt have that effect. only railcraft boilers have the heat up time.

GT Boilers still have heatup time, its just drastically shorter.

 

[Ultimaheart4]

so the fuel systems seem neat the way he set it up. i am electrolyzing water to get hydrogen and oxygen so i can use the oxygen in arc furnace and EBF. i was attempting to use the hydrogen as fuel but it seems it gets eaten way to fast by my generators and it cant self sustain. so im not sure what im doing wrong. now ive been able to make it work better by using ashes form my coal boilers to make carbon dust and turn hydrogen into methane. i was told turning food into methane is better but i dont want to waste my hydrogen im getting anyways. but the water to oxygen and hydrogen doesnt produce enough to keep up with its system. anything im missnig is my main question. did i skip something important? do i need external source? i was thinking of running some fuel production with solar boilers or something...

 

[Ultimaheart4]

GT Boilers still have heatup time, its just drastically shorter.

well then i read the book wrong i apologize. so i need more then 400 buckets of creosite oil and more then 14 stacks of charcoal? XD it doesnt seem to keep up no matter a seem less heat up time.

bronze boiler (gt)

 

[Pyure]

well then i read the book wrong i apologize. so i need more then 400 buckets of creosite oil and more then 14 stacks of charcoal? XD it doesnt seem to keep up no matter a seem less heat up time.

Which boiler are you using here?

I got a large (36LP?) boiler

The large bronze boiler is fairly good. Its not nearly as efficient as High Pressure Coal Boilers (GT) but you can create steam when you need it, rather than trying to tailor your output with a constantly-running RC boiler.

A 36LP boiler, once it reaches full efficiency, produces almost 36 buckets of steam per charcoal.
A Large Bronze Boiler, at full efficiency, produces 32 buckets of steam per charcoal.

At first glance, this makes the 36LP look superior, but because its hard to keep a 36LP boiler running at full efficiency for extremely long periods of time without wasting steam somewhere, to me this makes the Large Bronze Boiler a massive winner logistically.

The fact of the matter is, you are definitely going to spend a lot of fuel maintaining a decent amount of industry. You want to be aiming to automate your tree chopping production if possible.

 

[Ultimaheart4]

Which boiler are you using here?

The large bronze boiler is fairly good. Its not nearly as efficient as High Pressure Coal Boilers (GT) but you can create steam when you need it, rather than trying to tailor your output with a constantly-running RC boiler.

A 36LP boiler, once it reaches full efficiency, produces almost 36 buckets of steam per charcoal.
A Large Bronze Boiler, at full efficiency, produces 32 buckets of steam per charcoal.

At first glance, this makes the 36LP look superior, but because its hard to keep a 36LP boiler running at full efficiency for extremely long periods of time without wasting steam somewhere, to me this makes the Large Bronze Boiler a massive winner logistically.

The fact of the matter is, you are definitely going to spend a lot of fuel maintaining a decent amount of industry. You want to be aiming to automate your tree chopping production if possible.

gota get more stainless steel to get golems. forestry is gona cost me an arm and a leg to make a farm through there and the ender io farming station needs things i dont wish to rely on a 80-50% chance to make a crystal

we have a couple barrels full of charcoal but they are being used to keep the basics going and its being kept up manually with the charcoal piles since they are way more efficient per wood to charcoal.

also should i use oxygen to make charcoal constantly, from an electrolyzer? or should i just automate a bunch of coke ovens? they oxygen way i can always use more hydrogen.

 

[Sven "flamestrider"]

so the fuel systems seem neat the way he set it up. i am electrolyzing water to get hydrogen and oxygen so i can use the oxygen in arc furnace and EBF. i was attempting to use the hydrogen as fuel but it seems it gets eaten way to fast by my generators and it cant self sustain. so im not sure what im doing wrong. now ive been able to make it work better by using ashes form my coal boilers to make carbon dust and turn hydrogen into methane. i was told turning food into methane is better but i dont want to waste my hydrogen im getting anyways. but the water to oxygen and hydrogen doesnt produce enough to keep up with its system. anything im missnig is my main question. did i skip something important? do i need external source? i was thinking of running some fuel production with solar boilers or something...

If you read the right section of Joels sheet "Low tech power systems" you can see that conversion from steam into methane yields at best a 12% energy loss from early tech conversion, meaning it's less energy after the conversion steam->hydrogen->methane but it's condensed, which is sometimes worth the loss of converting it "up".
The food to methane nets about 20EU/tick gain, and as such is a worthwhile early fuel-source... especially if you only need methane in bursts.
Both those calculations he has written in does not take into account any wiring losses since those depend on your setup.
So generally steam to methane can not be self sustainable but food to methane can, if you have a buffer of pre-made methane for a turbine and haven't built a too energy inefficient setup.
I personally don't see either system as a self-sufficient system... I just use them to increase energy density in transporting fuels between generator-locations.

 

[Vliro]

gota get more stainless steel to get golems. forestry is gona cost me an arm and a leg to make a farm through there and the ender io farming station needs things i dont wish to rely on a 80-50% chance to make a crystal

we have a couple barrels full of charcoal but they are being used to keep the basics going and its being kept up manually with the charcoal piles since they are way more efficient per wood to charcoal.

also should i use oxygen to make charcoal constantly, from an electrolyzer? or should i just automate a bunch of coke ovens? they oxygen way i can always use more hydrogen.

I just set up a few coke ovens, like 12 maybe, which run constantly over-night and generate lots of charcoal + creosote, which both can be burnt in a boiler or just turned into ties for Railz.

I really want to use OpenComputers for a railstation since it seems pretty nifty, although the crafting for the PCB's has put me off, it seems that even the most rudimentary computer systems require so many PCB's. The biggest problem is the plastic, since I never have any coal for the liquid plastic production, as well as the entire etching process including the Epoxy coated plastic. Is it better to wait a bit until I can get a distillation tower and some more extensive oil processing until I build it?

The key issue is that I want to use railz for oil but for railz I want computerz which requires oilz. A vicious cycle hehe.

 

[Sven "flamestrider"]

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should i use oxygen to make charcoal constantly, from an electrolyzer? or should i just automate a bunch of coke ovens? they oxygen way i can always use more hydrogen.

No... if you sit down and calculate it out using arc-furnaces for charcoal is a loosing proposition for energy production... I'd recommend making charcoal with a pyrolyse oven if you need a lot of it... though at that point you probably have more options to choose from for energy.

 

[Sven "flamestrider"]

and remember, using a lot of coke ovens can be taxing on a server... don't have a lot of them running together with a lot of other tech-infrastructure.

 

[Ultimaheart4]

ok this is annoying i have only one 4x tin cable in between my thermal centrifuge and my battery buffer. why is it not getting enough energy? the battery buffer is 4 amps. do i need more?

 

[Vliro]

ok this is annoying i have only one 4x tin cable in between my thermal centrifuge and my battery buffer. why is it not getting enough energy? the battery buffer is 4 amps. do i need more?

Do you have 2+ batteries in the buffer? It can only output 1x amp per battery.

 

[Ultimaheart4]

Do you have 2+ batteries in the buffer? It can only output 1x amp per battery.

has 4 lithium batteries. trust me its outputting 4 amps ive burned 12 different wires...

 

[Sixpaq]

Is the cable hooked up to the front face? I don't think you can transmit power to the front face of a machine


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[Ultimaheart4]

Is the cable hooked up to the front face? I don't think you can transmit power to the front face of a machine


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i moved the system since i blew up 2 machines and a lot of wires went up in smoke. and it seems to work now. not certain how i messed up so many things but atleast it wasnt expensive machines XD

 

[turtle0574]

I was wondering if the non-infinite water is a bug or a feature and if there are ways to get around it.

 

[Navarin]

I was wondering if the non-infinite water is a bug or a feature and if there are ways to get around it.

Finite water is intended.

There are several ways to get infinite water, including (but not limited to) Railcraft's water tank and EnderIO's reservoir. The former is available at no tech, the latter available after a steam alloy smelter to get the fused quartz.

 

[Stroam]

Any active servers accepting new players?