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Okay, okay... What about this. A "hardcore" MFR setting is created, but set to false on default. It could have things like tiered upgrades, and others we could think of.

Would having it slightly harder be such a pain though that everyone would drop MFR? That's maybe 5% of people playing. On the other hand, most people I know don't use MFR because its too OP. If anything, it might gain users.

Why is it forcing an option? It can still be turned lower again.

While I am definitely enjoying the debate, I agree with jaded, it needs to stay a debate. Everyone needs to calm down a bit. As to regards to immibis, I don't only feel it is better than forestry, it is by far better and easier to get into than almost all other mods including tree farms. In...

I... don't know about that. Also, SC carts dont actively require work, so you can do something else. 10x10?! A quartz upgrade is 17x17 and is 3 quartz...

I dont know, I feel for the time invested, say a steves carts farm would be just as good.

Plus they're more expensive. And for anyone saying "Don't use it". Why wouldn't I use it? I love it! I just feel it shall be nerfed. However, I wanted everyones opinion on how MUCH to nerf it. And Zenthon, MFR requires no background and requires the whole big multiblock. I disagree that a max...

All I really find OP is MFR. Everything else like forestry, thaumcraft, and steves carts are fine.

And itll require twice as many resources and twice as much space. By that logic, why not make quarries instamine their whole area? I mean, you can just craft more of them to get the same result.

Also, CAN you edit machine block output? Im not seeing that.

Why is it more tedious? I set up a tree farm with MFR running on charcoal, having it require 10 MJ/t is going to make it produce a lot less wood than 1 MJ/t. Purely an example, don't know the actual power consumption rate off the top of my head. And what does Skyboy have to do? Everythings...

Ahhhhh, apparently all machines have separate power config. Now if someone just made a list of more balanced config settings.

Well firstly, that would require gregtech. But its still OP once made. How much do you think nerfing power consumption and creation would make it balanced? Well, even though I havent seen it myself, Mr. Skyboy insists there is a config for power.

But even with TE recipes, its pretty OP. And one of my modpacks doesn't even have TE! I like MFR, but it's killing the hardcore part of the pack.

But then TE is nerfed as well. Also, once you have steel, its smooth sailing. Additionally, you need TE installed.

While I am an MIP (modder in progress) this mod sounds terrifyingly hard to make. While I AM rooting for this mod, unless you managed to assemble one helluva team, you are not going to do all this stuff. That being said, good luck. I might do the occasional small job if one is sent to me.

I know a lot of you people out there find MFR OP, and I can agree with that. However, I love the items MFR adds so I still include it. I decided a thread about it might come to a answer to this question: What do you guys think it would take in terms of power creation and consumption to make it...

Is there any block I can use to make it snow? And Im talking actually snowing, not just like how terraformers make snow appear on the ground.

Ahhhh sorry. Oh Mr. Tema!

Extra utilities also does all three though.