Recent Events Discussion (RED) Thread

[Zenthon_127]

I've talked to Emoniph about this, and he said, IIRC, that this was not the plan or goal of the mod, and just about everything should be about as useful in SSP as SMP. I have found this to be true, after experimenting with literally everything in it.

I'm sure that's the case, and don't get me wrong I still like the mod. I have it in my SSP world for the things I do find useful in the mod, plus the fact that some of that stuff is just pretty damn cool (creating a portal to hell and unleashing everything inside? I'M IN!). But half the circle magic, some of the equipment and even many of the potions are very much for SMP use only.

Whoo got the one year anniversary Trophy. LOL

Half the forums lol.

 

[SatanicSanta]

I'm sure that's the case, and don't get me wrong I still like the mod. I have it in my SSP world for the things I do find useful in the mod, plus the fact that some of that stuff is just pretty damn cool (creating a portal to hell and unleashing everything inside? I'M IN!). But half the circle magic, some of the equipment and even many of the potions are very much for SMP use only.

I suppose I can't argue with that. Honestly, if I hated the rest of Witchery, I would still install it just for the infusions. Those things are so amazing, especially Otherwhere and Infernal.

And what are you talking about with the portal to hell?

 

[null123]

Also in recent events... I am bored... more meaningless trophies and titles will start appearing.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

 

[Jadedcat]

'Cause I've released 4 mods, and am working on a stupidly giant tech mod with Strikingwolf

Edit: /me realized that you probably thought I meant the global mod one, or something. \o/ nope.avi

Sorry... 5 days with only 6 hours of sleep... I am a bit slow tonight.. but I fixed it.

 

[SatanicSanta]

Sorry... 5 days with only 6 hours of sleep... I am a bit slow tonight.. but I fixed it.

No worries

 

[Zenthon_127]

And what are you talking about with the portal to hell?

It's the circle magic that only works at night and spawns a crapton of Nether-based mobs and blocks.

 

[NJM1564]

As an example FZ and RoC are unique.
EIO , IC2, Mek, are not. There are now tons of "Double ore and process" tech mods. Each with 1 or 2 unique functions/components/processes. They can be boiled down to:

• Machine to double/triple/quadruple ores
• Energy Transport - cables, conduits, pipes
• Machine to cook stuff
• Powerful tools
• Energy Production to power the machines
• Some machine or tool that needs the ore boost

And is it wrong to have redundancy? I always though that having more than one power network, more than one tech tree even if it did the same things offered more re-playability and longevity to a pack.

I mean I thought the best pack you had was ultimate and it had the highest number of power networks and redundancies.

I should also mention that EIO wasn't created with those functions in mind. They were added later. It was originally just a way to combine lots of different cables into a small space. The parts you are talking about were only added so that you wouldn't have to have TE if you didn't want.
Those cables and it machines I always considered later game systems. Something you had to work up towards. And shouldn't be compared to TE because of that.

 

[Jadedcat]

And is it wrong to have redundancy? I always though that having more than one power network, more than one tech tree even if it did the same things offered more re-playability and longevity to a pack.

I mean I thought the best pack you had was ultimate and it had the highest number of power networks and redundancies.

I should also mention that EIO wasn't created with those functions in mind. They were added later. It was originally just a way to combine lots of different cables into a small space. The parts you are talking about were only added so that you wouldn't have to have TE if you didn't want.
Those cables and it machines I always considered later game systems. Something you had to work up towards. And shouldn't be compared to TE because of that.

The point is that people keep wondering why so many perfectly decent mods never end up in packs. Its simple... I am not adding 7 almost identical mods to the same pack. I only need 1-2 "All the things tech mods" per pack.

 

[NJM1564]

All I've seen is one so far? Is there more?

The point is that people keep wondering why so many perfectly decent mods never end up in packs. Its simple... I am not adding 7 almost identical mods to the same pack. I only need 1-2 "All the things tech mods" per pack.

All I've seen is one so far? Is there more?

If not I definitely recommend EIO. I really like some of the new features.
And those pipes with the high grade sorting systems will definitely be useful.
With what I believe to be the overly complicated channel system of AE some sort of alternative auto crafting and storage system would be invaluable.
The best/most efficient system I have managed to think up would be jerry rigging something by combining EIO and a simple autocrafting mod like Autocrafter2000.
Especially if that dev get's his compresion mod developed. A few *x compressed diamond chests would really help with storage.


https://github.com/CCM-Modding/AutoCrafter2000

 

[Arkandos]

On a completly different note: Is anyone else having massive tickrate lag due to entities on 1.7.10?
Seems to be vanilla mobs causing big amounts of lag.

 

[Reika]

On a completly different note: Is anyone else having massive tickrate lag due to entities on 1.7.10?
Seems to be vanilla mobs causing big amounts of lag.

I have seen worldgen do amazing amounts of lag in my dev environment, enough to completely (though temporarily) lock up a computer normally able to get 1500FPS while having 300 Firefox tabs, Eclipse, Paint.NET, and 7 files in Audacity open.

Entities may well do so as well, and I would suspect the AI is to blame. Fortunately, I have heard mentions of 1.8 putting AI on its own thread.

 

[Qazplm601]

I have seen worldgen do amazing amounts of lag in my dev environment, enough to completely (though temporarily) lock up a computer normally able to get 1500FPS while having 300 Firefox tabs, Eclipse, Paint.NET, and 7 files in Audacity open.

Entities may well do so as well, and I would suspect the AI is to blame. Fortunately, I have heard mentions of 1.8 putting AI on its own thread.

hey @Gideonseymour , what if we put G-man in a zombie as its AI? (insidejoke)

 

[buggirlexpres]

hey @Gideonseymour , what if we put G-man in a zombie as its AI? (insidejoke)

It would certainly spice up combat

 

[Qazplm601]

It would certainly spice up combat

we must use this in vampire money

 

[Celestialphoenix]

And is it wrong to have redundancy? I always though that having more than one power network, more than one tech tree even if it did the same things offered more re-playability and longevity to a pack.

Its a hell of a lot easier to design with one tech progression/power grid. Adding a second power network/tech tree would probably require at least 4x the work, and invariably end up with one method significantly favoured over another, or 2 networks with no discernible difference which in turn would be a futile exercise.
What would be fairly neat is one network (mod A) providing the base infrastructure for mod B- allowing for a more complex climb.
(but again this requires significantly more work, and re-working 2 mods to become one)

 

[chbachman]

Sorry... 5 days with only 6 hours of sleep... I am a bit slow tonight.. but I fixed it.

Thank you!

 

[trajing]

Its a hell of a lot easier to design with one tech progression/power grid. Adding a second power network/tech tree would probably require at least 4x the work, and invariably end up with one method significantly favoured over another, or 2 networks with no discernible difference which in turn would be a futile exercise.
What would be fairly neat is one network (mod A) providing the base infrastructure for mod B- allowing for a more complex climb.
(but again this requires significantly more work, and re-working 2 mods to become one)

Although PhoenixConfig is doing this. [/shamelesselfplug]

 

[midi_sec]

I've released mods too. /cry.

it's ok, so has @Democretes

Whoa, he got his. Awesome.

 

[NJM1564]

Its a hell of a lot easier to design with one tech progression/power grid. Adding a second power network/tech tree would probably require at least 4x the work, and invariably end up with one method significantly favoured over another, or 2 networks with no discernible difference which in turn would be a futile exercise.
What would be fairly neat is one network (mod A) providing the base infrastructure for mod B- allowing for a more complex climb.
(but again this requires significantly more work, and re-working 2 mods to become one)

Easier isn't necessarily the most fun. EiO requires more work to develop and more resources. But it is also a faster more efficient system once it's gotten up and running. Serving much the same purpose as IC2 did in the older packs.
So it would be an optional additional step for those who want to create uber power systems.
As opposed to simply plopping down some furnaces and grinders and saying welp I'm done. No reason to play any more. You would be able to go back later once you get laser quarries and big reactors set up and over hall your system to handle the mass of resources you would then be getting. With out taking up a huge mass of space.

 

[Padfoote]

With out taking up a huge mass of space.

To some of us, THAT is the fun part of using mods. Designing the largest, craziest system possible.