Werewolf: Unfair, wolf! [Game Thread]

[016Nojr]

Yeah, Jusbeast coming up as Pixel was completely UN-random if you ask me; of course, there's luck of the draw, but still...

Grattz with your new green tag btw

 

[Shazam08]

I just realised, @Shazam08 I guess the hacker is sticking around?


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Indeed.

Yeah, Jusbeast coming up as Pixel was completely UN-random if you ask me; of course, there's luck of the draw, but still...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Believe what you will. I threw every innocent role name in random.org's list randomizer, then added two (three?) entries of "Pixel". Random with bias, you might say.

 

[Pyure]

Indeed.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Believe what you will. I threw every innocent role name in random.org's list randomizer, then added two (three?) entries of "Pixel". Random with bias, you might say.

I think it was reasonably fair. The idea behind the role/action was that he should look "innocent", not like "an innocent role that is obviously and provably bullcrap."[DOUBLEPOST=1414597305,1414531781][/DOUBLEPOST]N1: "Vikestep (Firewall) guards Pyure (Invalid, Vikestep dead)"

Aw, shucks @VikeStep, that's the nicest thing you've ever done [DOUBLEPOST=1414597675][/DOUBLEPOST]@trajing tried to resurrect me too; so much love!

Yes I'm behind the times. Didn't have proper internets for a few days there.[DOUBLEPOST=1414598084][/DOUBLEPOST]Guys, question:
Who said this?
Pyure (Honeypot) receives Honeypot message:

I really do agree. Spam away guys! (unless its not random and shazam picks the message...) Confirm ?

I actually spent an hour going through old posts and such trying to figure out who liked to use "big smilies". I came up with Nojr (proven WH), Cheese (most likely WH), pc_assassin (Medium suspicious), and SpwnX (Low Suspicious, most likely neuter. Props btw)

SO I guess I'm wondering if SpwnX made that comment or if it was just an anomaly.

 

[Shazam08]

Guys, question:
Who said this?
Pyure (Honeypot) receives Honeypot message:

I actually spent an hour going through old posts and such trying to figure out who liked to use "big smilies". I came up with Nojr (proven WH), Cheese (most likely WH), pc_assassin (Medium suspicious), and SpwnX (Low Suspicious, most likely neuter. Props btw)

SO I guess I'm wondering if SpwnX made that comment or if it was just an anomaly.

It was Beast, actually.

I really do agree. Spam away guys!

(unless its not random and shazam picks the message...)

Confirm ?

 

[Pyure]

It was worth a shot

OK Last bit of spam.

Lots of you are pretty aware that I tried keeping really tight notes and analysis on this game. I do *not* maintain game-to-game analyses of players (their trends). Every game is separate and I expect players to vary their style game to game.

That said, I kept a summary of how each player was playing through the game. Obviously people who died N1 don't have a lot here. Believe it or not, this is the incredibly-cleaned-up version of my notes. They are incredibly messy and disorganized. That said, you can see where I totally botched my guesses (pc_assassin and spwnx in particular). Likewise you can sort of see why I felt dwappo and cbg were BH.

@HeilMewTwo (LOW SUSPICION)(Claims he is the Gnijart, a neutral role; are we in danger? Claims bing as target. Can we use that for anything?)
@CarbonBasedGhost (SUSPICIOUS: Has Norton, attacked by dead RJS and survived N3. Only votes possible-goodies. Told us AFTER LYNCHING US that he's CD. Almost definitely wolf.)
@chbachman (LOW OR NEUTRAL) (claims to have been BSOD'd, good? Jumped on the_j early. Says he's neutral; probably true)
@SkeletonPunk (LOW) (Pixel according to Eruantien. One of the first to jump on the_j. Almost certainly inno)
@Strikingwolf , Config, smited N1 for not voting (NO INFO)
@SoraZodia (MEDIUM) (probably bad --> accidental god reveal. Not BH -> probably neutral)
Pyure (MEDIUM) --> Jester
@pc_assassin (HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS: Keeps voting for Firewall. Smilie hint. Tons of pseudo-antismites. {EDIT AFTER GAME: WOOPS, MISFIRE HERE})
@Gideonseymour (LOW) (Terminated, unknown, probably good --> Accidental god reveal, probably not BH)
@Eruantien (LOW) (Led lynching of Nojr; Says he can determine roles (cyber?); says the_j is a hacker; voted on by the_j --> Almost certainly legit WH)
@trajing (MEDIUM-LOW SUSPICIOUS: Claims to have been BSOD'd, would make him good? --> Helped lynch BH.)
@Kill-Joy (MEDIUM): ignoring my evidence against the_j {but already locked??}. Didn't pick a side in jus2beast vs pyure --> Evidence suggests Neutral, but too many neutrals floating around.)
@VikeStep (LOW MEDIUM HIGH MEDIUM LOW LOW LOW MEDIUM LOW HIGH LOW) (probably goodie role but may try to switch sides somehow. Should have caught onto dwappo/cbg by now? wtf is he up to?)
@RJS , Variable, lynched N2 (NO INFO)
@LivingAngryCheese (SUPER LOW) (Followed lynch of sora. Says he's analytical too. One of first to jump on the_j --> ALMOST CERTAINLY INNO although he called us annoying.)
@Jus2beast (LOW --> REVISED-HIGH) (probably good. Hesitant to vote for Sora. Antismited us randomly; Wanted in on Goodie convo; was voted by the_j day1-inno?; Didnt want to explicitly say role. Didn't vote for the_j right away; digging hard for WH info; setup escape-clause to not change vote; bandwagoned the_J --> DEFINITELY BH, priority lynch)
@the_j485 (MEDIUM-HIGH) (eruantien says he's a hacker. He does look really suspicious in convo. Almost certainly legit Analytical --> worth it to get him to reveal?)
@016Nojr (LOW) --> Proxy, Probably Coder --> Voted EARLY by the_J, probably inno
@dwappo (HIGH HIGH HIGH, OBVIOUS WOLF) "Lost a chance to kill a wolf".) Only votes probable-innos: RJS, NOJR, Eruantien (and didn't change to THE_J with evidence), Pyure (in close tie with the_J), "*sigh* our honeypot is gone D:" (again, "sad" that a good guy is dead. He just voted for us too)
@goreae (LOW) (May or may not be config, but ALMOST CERTAINLY NEUTRAL: Claiming to be a Config by speaking in third person, then vote a million times day, then having no-punctuation day )
@yoy1zoz2mom3 (MEDIUM) --> Voted Nojr, switched to Zora in wagon; Voted pyure, switched to the_j in wagon; cockily supported my cocky boom-reload. Actually inno?
@SpwnX (LOW OR NEUTRAL) (config? Must say potato? Flying super low. Claims neutral.) {EDIT: WOOPS WE MISSED THIS ONE BADLY}
@Qazplm601 (LOW) (The_J voted him, probably inno) --> Either inno or freaking genius. Flying super low.

 

[LivingAngryCheese]

It was worth a shot

OK Last bit of spam.

Lots of you are pretty aware that I tried keeping really tight notes and analysis on this game. I do *not* maintain game-to-game analyses of players (their trends). Every game is separate and I expect players to vary their style game to game.

That said, I kept a summary of how each player was playing through the game. Obviously people who died N1 don't have a lot here. Believe it or not, this is the incredibly-cleaned-up version of my notes. They are incredibly messy and disorganized. That said, you can see where I totally botched my guesses (pc_assassin and spwnx in particular). Likewise you can sort of see why I felt dwappo and cbg were BH.

@HeilMewTwo (LOW SUSPICION)(Claims he is the Gnijart, a neutral role; are we in danger? Claims bing as target. Can we use that for anything?)
@CarbonBasedGhost (SUSPICIOUS: Has Norton, attacked by dead RJS and survived N3. Only votes possible-goodies. Told us AFTER LYNCHING US that he's CD. Almost definitely wolf.)
@chbachman (LOW OR NEUTRAL) (claims to have been BSOD'd, good? Jumped on the_j early. Says he's neutral; probably true)
@SkeletonPunk (LOW) (Pixel according to Eruantien. One of the first to jump on the_j. Almost certainly inno)
@Strikingwolf , Config, smited N1 for not voting (NO INFO)
@SoraZodia (MEDIUM) (probably bad --> accidental god reveal. Not BH -> probably neutral)
Pyure (MEDIUM) --> Jester
@pc_assassin (HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS: Keeps voting for Firewall. Smilie hint. Tons of pseudo-antismites. {EDIT AFTER GAME: WOOPS, MISFIRE HERE})
@Gideonseymour (LOW) (Terminated, unknown, probably good --> Accidental god reveal, probably not BH)
@Eruantien (LOW) (Led lynching of Nojr; Says he can determine roles (cyber?); says the_j is a hacker; voted on by the_j --> Almost certainly legit WH)
@trajing (MEDIUM-LOW SUSPICIOUS: Claims to have been BSOD'd, would make him good? --> Helped lynch BH.)
@Kill-Joy (MEDIUM): ignoring my evidence against the_j {but already locked??}. Didn't pick a side in jus2beast vs pyure --> Evidence suggests Neutral, but too many neutrals floating around.)
@VikeStep (LOW MEDIUM HIGH MEDIUM LOW LOW LOW MEDIUM LOW HIGH LOW) (probably goodie role but may try to switch sides somehow. Should have caught onto dwappo/cbg by now? wtf is he up to?)
@RJS , Variable, lynched N2 (NO INFO)
@LivingAngryCheese (SUPER LOW) (Followed lynch of sora. Says he's analytical too. One of first to jump on the_j --> ALMOST CERTAINLY INNO although he called us annoying.)
@Jus2beast (LOW --> REVISED-HIGH) (probably good. Hesitant to vote for Sora. Antismited us randomly; Wanted in on Goodie convo; was voted by the_j day1-inno?; Didnt want to explicitly say role. Didn't vote for the_j right away; digging hard for WH info; setup escape-clause to not change vote; bandwagoned the_J --> DEFINITELY BH, priority lynch)
@the_j485 (MEDIUM-HIGH) (eruantien says he's a hacker. He does look really suspicious in convo. Almost certainly legit Analytical --> worth it to get him to reveal?)
@016Nojr (LOW) --> Proxy, Probably Coder --> Voted EARLY by the_J, probably inno
@dwappo (HIGH HIGH HIGH, OBVIOUS WOLF) "Lost a chance to kill a wolf".) Only votes probable-innos: RJS, NOJR, Eruantien (and didn't change to THE_J with evidence), Pyure (in close tie with the_J), "*sigh* our honeypot is gone D:" (again, "sad" that a good guy is dead. He just voted for us too)
@goreae (LOW) (May or may not be config, but ALMOST CERTAINLY NEUTRAL: Claiming to be a Config by speaking in third person, then vote a million times day, then having no-punctuation day )
@yoy1zoz2mom3 (MEDIUM) --> Voted Nojr, switched to Zora in wagon; Voted pyure, switched to the_j in wagon; cockily supported my cocky boom-reload. Actually inno?
@SpwnX (LOW OR NEUTRAL) (config? Must say potato? Flying super low. Claims neutral.) {EDIT: WOOPS WE MISSED THIS ONE BADLY}
@Qazplm601 (LOW) (The_J voted him, probably inno) --> Either inno or freaking genius. Flying super low.

But you are annoying



JK

Anyway glad I'm an obvious white hat, and this is a great idea, I'm going to make notes...

 

[SpwnX]

As someone said before, "potato reasons are the best reasons".

Also, I was the one who actively controlled the BH convo to jack with the honeypot.

 

[RJS]

In case some of you missed this, shameless plug for the signup for 'Little town of Helyr' which is currently in progress right here: http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/werewolf-little-town-of-helyr.53618/

 

[SpwnX]

The message jus2beast agreed:

Now it is, before it wasnt
Also, it is good to make this convo big to lower the chances of the honeypot getting the message with our names.

 

[Pyure]

As someone said before, "potato reasons are the best reasons".

Also, I was the one who actively controlled the BH convo to jack with the honeypot.

Clever! The only downside was that the second honeypot msg I received suggested you were doing exactly that. I was able to feed it to the_j to make it seem like I had an informant:

I'm friends with a BH heh. I'm desynchronized. I thought I was a WH for a while until I learned otherwise. A BH role power interfered with mine and I figured out why (there was only one possible explanation, I had to clarify the possible loopholes with god, and the logic was then irrefutable)

Ever since I've known at least one BH who was really tight lipped. I learned funny things tho. Day 2: screwing with the honeypot, lol

What I didn't know was whether that was a legit message. There was a small possibility I was actually a config; in fact Shazam was still making me "sing" through hoops at that point, argh.

 

[SpwnX]

Btw what you mean with "flying super low" while noting about me?

 

[Pyure]

Btw what you mean with "flying super low" while noting about me?

You didn't do anything "interesting" that I could note down. I think qazplm was the same. This is either indicative of very good game play or very boring game play Even your voting was useless because you added pc_assassin and I suspected him at the time (in retrospect, you only voted goodies before I died and stopped taking good notes: Nobody, chbachman, Nojr(potato), Eruantien(potato),pc_assassin(potato) ) Yes, I noted the potatoes.

 

[SpwnX]

Potato!
Fun fact: the potato thing was inspired by pc_assassin avatar character (Sasha Braum from Attack of Titan) , who seems to be eating a potato.

Aswell some internets stuff.

 

[RJS]

It was worth a shot

OK Last bit of spam.

Lots of you are pretty aware that I tried keeping really tight notes and analysis on this game. I do *not* maintain game-to-game analyses of players (their trends). Every game is separate and I expect players to vary their style game to game.

That said, I kept a summary of how each player was playing through the game. Obviously people who died N1 don't have a lot here. Believe it or not, this is the incredibly-cleaned-up version of my notes. They are incredibly messy and disorganized. That said, you can see where I totally botched my guesses (pc_assassin and spwnx in particular). Likewise you can sort of see why I felt dwappo and cbg were BH.

@HeilMewTwo (LOW SUSPICION)(Claims he is the Gnijart, a neutral role; are we in danger? Claims bing as target. Can we use that for anything?)
@CarbonBasedGhost (SUSPICIOUS: Has Norton, attacked by dead RJS and survived N3. Only votes possible-goodies. Told us AFTER LYNCHING US that he's CD. Almost definitely wolf.)
@chbachman (LOW OR NEUTRAL) (claims to have been BSOD'd, good? Jumped on the_j early. Says he's neutral; probably true)
@SkeletonPunk (LOW) (Pixel according to Eruantien. One of the first to jump on the_j. Almost certainly inno)
@Strikingwolf , Config, smited N1 for not voting (NO INFO)
@SoraZodia (MEDIUM) (probably bad --> accidental god reveal. Not BH -> probably neutral)
Pyure (MEDIUM) --> Jester
@pc_assassin (HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS: Keeps voting for Firewall. Smilie hint. Tons of pseudo-antismites. {EDIT AFTER GAME: WOOPS, MISFIRE HERE})
@Gideonseymour (LOW) (Terminated, unknown, probably good --> Accidental god reveal, probably not BH)
@Eruantien (LOW) (Led lynching of Nojr; Says he can determine roles (cyber?); says the_j is a hacker; voted on by the_j --> Almost certainly legit WH)
@trajing (MEDIUM-LOW SUSPICIOUS: Claims to have been BSOD'd, would make him good? --> Helped lynch BH.)
@Kill-Joy (MEDIUM): ignoring my evidence against the_j {but already locked??}. Didn't pick a side in jus2beast vs pyure --> Evidence suggests Neutral, but too many neutrals floating around.)
@VikeStep (LOW MEDIUM HIGH MEDIUM LOW LOW LOW MEDIUM LOW HIGH LOW) (probably goodie role but may try to switch sides somehow. Should have caught onto dwappo/cbg by now? wtf is he up to?)
@RJS , Variable, lynched N2 (NO INFO)
@LivingAngryCheese (SUPER LOW) (Followed lynch of sora. Says he's analytical too. One of first to jump on the_j --> ALMOST CERTAINLY INNO although he called us annoying.)
@Jus2beast (LOW --> REVISED-HIGH) (probably good. Hesitant to vote for Sora. Antismited us randomly; Wanted in on Goodie convo; was voted by the_j day1-inno?; Didnt want to explicitly say role. Didn't vote for the_j right away; digging hard for WH info; setup escape-clause to not change vote; bandwagoned the_J --> DEFINITELY BH, priority lynch)
@the_j485 (MEDIUM-HIGH) (eruantien says he's a hacker. He does look really suspicious in convo. Almost certainly legit Analytical --> worth it to get him to reveal?)
@016Nojr (LOW) --> Proxy, Probably Coder --> Voted EARLY by the_J, probably inno
@dwappo (HIGH HIGH HIGH, OBVIOUS WOLF) "Lost a chance to kill a wolf".) Only votes probable-innos: RJS, NOJR, Eruantien (and didn't change to THE_J with evidence), Pyure (in close tie with the_J), "*sigh* our honeypot is gone D:" (again, "sad" that a good guy is dead. He just voted for us too)
@goreae (LOW) (May or may not be config, but ALMOST CERTAINLY NEUTRAL: Claiming to be a Config by speaking in third person, then vote a million times day, then having no-punctuation day )
@yoy1zoz2mom3 (MEDIUM) --> Voted Nojr, switched to Zora in wagon; Voted pyure, switched to the_j in wagon; cockily supported my cocky boom-reload. Actually inno?
@SpwnX (LOW OR NEUTRAL) (config? Must say potato? Flying super low. Claims neutral.) {EDIT: WOOPS WE MISSED THIS ONE BADLY}
@Qazplm601 (LOW) (The_J voted him, probably inno) --> Either inno or freaking genius. Flying super low.

You didn't find me suspicious? Now I'm seeing why goreae nearly got hung Seriously though, I was very afraid of that happening a) because I'd feel bad and b) because it would lead to a whole day of people questioning my motives and potentially mentioning the pyurian. Were it not for goreae's edit and Jus2beast's detective work swinging the vote in my favour, I would have made a 'slip up' and made another post at great risk of looking like a jester

 

[SpwnX]

I was nearly sure you had the pyurian algorithm since I was the BSOD (and I froze goreae), even alarmed my teammates. Yet, they voted for you and we got damaged. After that night I said the classic "I told you".

 

[Pyure]

You didn't find me suspicious? Now I'm seeing why goreae nearly got hung Seriously though, I was very afraid of that happening a) because I'd feel bad and b) because it would lead to a whole day of people questioning my motives and potentially mentioning the pyurian. Were it not for goreae's edit and Jus2beast's detective work swinging the vote in my favour, I would have made a 'slip up' and made another post at great risk of looking like a jester

No, your motives were murky as fuck.[DOUBLEPOST=1414605417][/DOUBLEPOST]@SpwnX : that reminds me (for some reason):

I wish I could have watched the BH convo when I was screwing with the_J. What happened there? I have to assume it involved a tiny bit of suspicion over "who was the idiot who leaked to Pyure." Did anyone ultimately give him the go-ahead to work with me?

 

[RJS]

I was nearly sure you had the pyurian algorithm since I was the BSOD (and I froze goreae), even alarmed my teammates. Yet, they voted for you and we got damaged. After that night I said the classic "I told you".

Aren't you pleased you had Norton installed? (probably the only time ever you would be)

 

[SpwnX]

No, your motives were murky as fuck.[DOUBLEPOST=1414605417][/DOUBLEPOST]@SpwnX : that reminds me (for some reason):

I wish I could have watched the BH convo when I was screwing with the_J. What happened there? I have to assume it involved a tiny bit of suspicion over "who was the idiot who leaked to Pyure." Did anyone ultimately give him the go-ahead to work with me?

It was me who gave the go-ahead. I tought the_j would be able to work with you without giving much information, but I guess I was wrong.

 

[Jus2beast]

Pyure, Im not sure if I did, but I think I got a few others convinced that you were bad (in a separate convo)

 

[Pyure]

Pyure, Im not sure if I did, but I think I got a few others convinced that you were bad (in a separate convo)

Bad as in "good guy" I presume

It was one of those things where if every BH was logged on at once, you might have figured out pretty quick that nobody had leaked and therefore I was full of crap.

I don't think I'd try that again, unless I had another weak-ish role. Definitely not as a seer-type.