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Pyure’s last will and testament (ninja edition!)
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The following notes are purely to assist the villagers in their pursuit of a rather dodgy victory.
In case I survive today:
SpwnX and I are currently tied for votes. So I’ve used my power to give an extra vote to SpwnX.
Depending on how Cheese words the lynch tally, this will become evident and my role will be proven.
In case I’m murdered:
Vikestep’s bullshit depends on a couple things:
a) That people think he calls up ppl (he respects) on day 1 and divulges his true role
b) That people think “roleblocking” is in any way possible and magically appeared on D6
c) That people accept that there’s 3 bachmans, 2-3 heroes, and only one villager (chbachman)
If Vikestep somehow turns up innocent (I doubt it), Eruantien is the logical next best guess.
But be mindful I’ve been proven innocent, which makes Vike’s speech a gigantic crock of total bullshit and him a total wolf.
In case I’m lynched:
How the hell did that happen? Oh well. Villagers, we’re probably fucked at this point, but try to get Vikestep and then Spwnx.
In case the wolf has left me alive of his own choice and accord:
Kudos, and I tip my cap to you. Good game. If Vike’s innocent (I doubt it) and you left both of us alive of your own accord, triple-kudos.
Edit: Sort-of-ninja'd by Eruantien I see who busted my extra-vote power. Oh well, I can save it.
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The following notes are purely to assist the villagers in their pursuit of a rather dodgy victory.
In case I survive today:
SpwnX and I are currently tied for votes. So I’ve used my power to give an extra vote to SpwnX.
Depending on how Cheese words the lynch tally, this will become evident and my role will be proven.
In case I’m murdered:
Vikestep’s bullshit depends on a couple things:
a) That people think he calls up ppl (he respects) on day 1 and divulges his true role
b) That people think “roleblocking” is in any way possible and magically appeared on D6
c) That people accept that there’s 3 bachmans, 2-3 heroes, and only one villager (chbachman)
If Vikestep somehow turns up innocent (I doubt it), Eruantien is the logical next best guess.
But be mindful I’ve been proven innocent, which makes Vike’s speech a gigantic crock of total bullshit and him a total wolf.
In case I’m lynched:
How the hell did that happen? Oh well. Villagers, we’re probably fucked at this point, but try to get Vikestep and then Spwnx.
In case the wolf has left me alive of his own choice and accord:
Kudos, and I tip my cap to you. Good game. If Vike’s innocent (I doubt it) and you left both of us alive of your own accord, triple-kudos.
Edit: Sort-of-ninja'd by Eruantien I see who busted my extra-vote power. Oh well, I can save it.
I say I'm wolf-eaten in a couple minutes.
I was gonna say there were three bachmans, but I'm not 100% sure. xtord/sora, the_j, coolsquid.
I think this is accurate, except there's stuff I haven't received yet (probably from today).Okies. Fwiw, here's my convo with Vikestep in its entirety, without direct-quoting. The spy can confirm up to yesterday, and can confirm anything else after today.
ooc: best convos of every game are always with VikestepI think I sum up perfect how I handle them in my first reply to him.
I injected two editors notes because they tickled me.
Vikestep: There’s a 5% chance statistically you are a wolf and given your posts in the game thread I don't think you are a threat.
If you wanted to know, I am a mad warrior. You of course can choose to trust me or not. Up to you
Pyure: Thanks! My policy is, of course, to always, 100% trust you.
Vikestep: As much as he is suspicious. I don't think SkeletonPunk is it. I've seen him as a wolf and he is never this outgoing. Either he is terrible at wolf strategy or just a nervous villager who legitimately feels insulted by you. I annoyed him a previous game by calling his actions stupid. I didn't think he would take it like that but he did.
I'm still gonna vote for him since there is no one better right now
Pyure: Dood, there is a 19/20 chance I'm totally wrong. But what else do we do with (probably) just one wolf to work with.
At the end of the day, villagers are going to accidentally lynch each other sometimes and the best we can do is try to analyze how it went and where it points to.
(I agree there's a strong chance he's just making mistakes)
VikeStep: Yeah let's think about the end scenario. The Wolf has been incredibly sneaky the entire game and it gets down to 4 people. By then the group needs to collectively know three of the roles otherwise they risk lynching a villager and wolf killing another letting the Wolf and a villager live meaning we lose.
It's not a problem we can act on right now but keep it in your head. Also, I say 4 people because it's the worst case scenario possible.
Pyure: Just to be clear:
Evidence you're a villager: You'd consider me a greater threat than SoraZodia, and I'm still alive.
Evidence you're a wolf: You D1 role-claimed a role specifically that says "voting against me is bad for your health." This is extremely your style of play.
Setting that aside: I think the chance of there being only one "simple" wolf is ridiculously small. I suspect the wolf either converts people at night, or converts someone at death. Most likely the latter.
Vikestep: Well to address your second point I actually am the mad warrior this time. Not sure how I can prove it except by using it and dieing.
Pyure: I'm fine with that.
fwiw, your thoughts on RJS? He's a bit suspicious to me.
Vikestep: Hmm I'll have to have a better look but I didn't suspect him. Also just got contacted by the spy he saw my message to you. Did you get contacted by him?
Pyure: Yessir. Outside of hidden magic, I'd say his role is "proven".
Vikestep: You know, with my reputation its easy to act stupidly. I wonder why I posted what I did...
Pyure: Hrm nod, I hadn't read the thread yet. But my first instinct tbh was to change my vote and clarify that my vote was primarily antismite.
Vikestep: btw, I figured out a way to win if we end up with 4 people. As long as I know one of the people alive we can win.
Basically let's say I am Person 1, the person I know is Person 2, and the others are Person 3 & 4. I tell Person 2 to vote for Person 3, I vote for Person 4. I act wolf-like and get Person 3 & 4 to vote for me. I use my ability on Person 4 and since powers occur before lynching all that will be left is Person 2 and Person 3. Since Person 3 has one vote on them they are lynched and the only person left is Person 1 who I know is a confirmed villager
Pyure: That probably makes sense?
Vikestep: So it seems I have been wrong since day one hey? Oh dear. Apparently the Wolf has a role blocking ability you wouldn't know anything about this would you pyure?
Pyure: Sorry friend, can you clarify? I'm actually failing to decipher the majority of that statement.
Vikestep: I was role blocked last night using mad warrior on you. Interesting since there is nothing in the rules that mention role blocking.
Pyure: Nm I get it. I suspect you're trying to deflect suspicion away from yourself by pretending to suspect me.
Spwnx today. You tomorrow probably, my post on the main thread notwithstanding.
“I was role blocked last night using mad warrior on you. Interesting since there is nothing in the rules that mention role blocking.” --> I would imagine this is a lie.
Vikestep: Nope. I think you are the Wolf. You know it's true. Come on. Boring old villager? Yeah right. You were a great wolf this game but I got you.
Pyure: I almost wish I hadn't locked on Spwnx already. This smacks of your typical agitation when I have your role identified. The good news? I don't. I genuinely don't know if you're the wolf or not. You very well could be a mad warrior since only one other person has claimed (and confirmed) that role.
I don't care. I'm voting people in order until I'm eaten or lynched. See you in the next game. [ EDITORS NOTE: YES THIS GAME FRUSTRATES ME ]
Vikestep: It also smacks of my agitation when I have solved the case.
Pyure: Well in this case, sorry, you've neither identified the wolf nor convinced me that you're trying to identify the wolf.
The more I think about it, the more I think that, as a good player, you should be as frustrated about this as I am. The fact that you're cool and collected and making zero effort (before now) to find the wolf suggests that you're content to watch us struggle.
Spwnx today, you tomorrow.
Vikestep: Hopefully you have something constructive to say to my post. Please notice I didnt vote for you as well
Pyure: Not really, looks good.
Any other game, I'd say "duh, Vike's obviously the wolf then", but this game, who the fuck even knows.
From a non-in-character perspective, you'll appreciate how I worded my response. The best part? Its all 100% true, and the very rare instance where I can do that in ww.
Pyure: Question, when you say you were roleblocked, are you suggesting you got a message saying "Your power was blocked tonight" from cheese, or are you saying you asked cheese to do something (mad warrior powerz) and never got a response?
{ No response from Vike; he likely hasn’t woken up yet }
Also, I've been told privately in convos by three separate people to vote for three separate people. gg.
Anyway, Spwn, Pyure, and Vike's convos:
Hey SoraZodia
As always, I encourage you to withhold any obviously "valuable" information from me any anyone else. I (and anyone else) may be a wolf.
Did you tell your role to anyone last night? VikeStep in particular was polling people yesterday. Did you divulge your role to him?
If you divulged a buff role to someone, I'd be concerned you told your role to a wolf.
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Greetings and such HeilMewTwo
You aren't willing to disclose your reasons for voting me on the main thread. Can you tell me why privately?
I'm guessing you're "bait", or somehow affected by an external ability.
If you're affected by an external ability that prevents you to disclose such, please don't reply at all.
Interesting. Thx.
Fwiw, I suspect somesone is "Gideon". If not, just fyi, Gideon is confirmed goodie.
Do we trust him for some reason? I don't.
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I think its definitely worth keeping an eye on. Hrm.
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huh.
That's pretty hard role-evidence to contradict.
I didn't realize we'd actually picked out someone lying. That's very interesting.
I'm inclined to vote HeilMewTwo based purely on that and for lack of anything better.
Holy crap, did my last comment start this landslide against Heilmewtwo?
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Hey dood!
We're at a point of the game where I've gotta start asking ppl their roles. Will you divulge yours?
I'm a Villager. In the boring, old sense.
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convo Pyure posted
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I'm not super-100%-ready to disclose my role. I'm a villager, and not a wolf.
Good luck with the bait thing though.
Not in entirety. I have RJS with a couple of "suspicions" and eruantien with a couple of "negative suspicions".
At first glance, yes. I'm going through it in detail to confirm, gimme a sec.
Word for word looks legit.
[Redacted] is:
"Well to address your second point I actually am the mad warrior this time. Not sure how I can prove it except by using it and dieing."
Vike's entire thread looks suspicious as all fuck but I can't correlate Vike=Wolf with him a) not murdering me, and b) not murdering the spy.
HTH
Gideon?
Well that was a useful two-way exchange of information
Hmm. I don't like what this suggests about your motives.
What I mean is, if you think i'm a villager (and I think you do), why aren't you helping me filter out the other villagers?
For instance, I've started a minor lynch on RJS. But if you know he's inno, lemme know. (the fact that he was contacted by the spy does not make him innocent btw)
1. Ok thx. He proved he was the spy to me on N2, but I kept wondering if he had managed to "work the system" somehow
2. Who is more suspicious to you than RJS?
In all honesty, my notes aren't very useful. There's no team of wolves here, and 90% of my logic is based on wolf-cooperation flags.
If you have any specific questions, I'll tell you what I know.
To give you a rough idea: the highest suspicion level is currently 7/10 (RJS).
You have a 5.5/10 yourself, and you earned that 0.5 simply because you hadn't been active for a long time when the wolf "forgot" to murder someone. Evidence is shit in this game.
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I like cheerios!
I assumed my Ralph Wiggum-esque reply would have made you say "Boy did I bet on the wrong horse."
Ok, since you're not to be deterred, I assume its a typo because its Cheese and he does that
If the next summary has a "7", I'll be more concerned. Nothing we can do about it tonight.
Woh, you have powers? I didn't know that, I just thought you were a villager like me.
Oh, right, totally.
Well, someone's gotta get lynched. I figure I should just keep doing my best to rate "most likely to be wolf", and if that means I die in the process, well, its a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
Its possible that a particularly vindictive person might decide to use a power in retribution, knowing it could cost his team a victory, but you understand I can't operate thinking someone would do that.
I actually put new guy as -1 suspicion for that very reason, but I'm also conscious that I publicized that theory before the game started and Cheese might want to turn the tables on me.
You planning to gun anybody down sir?
btw, I checked with god: I was concerned the mad warrior could bring down two suckers, but I think because of the order of operations (powers first, then lynches) you can't trigger your second-kill if you use your first (which kills you before you're lynched)
PS: Just to mess with the universe a bit, I'm about to ninja-switch my vote
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Hey. I have you as "pretty darn innocent" since early game.
9. Eruantien (3/10) (nobody, xtordx->SkeletonPunk, SpwnX, HeilMewTwo, RJS) (recognized Vike as a threat but didn’t murder him: -1; late comms but didn’t wolfkill: -1)
(I realize some of that is gibberish to others, I'm too lazy to clean it up)
I'm a villager of the "literally a villager" sort. Can you disclose your role?
Is there any particular role you need to know about so you don't accidentally lynch him?
Did I already start a thread with you? :\ Damn I am terrible at keeping track, sorry.
I have no idea what role you're claiming.
I don't think coolsquid is really a wolf. I think he's an idiot or a genius (most likely the former)
I'll jot you down as another boring old villager for now (which is what I am)
I played the original Zelda like 20 years ago, I forget everything about it (Except that it was fun) Sorry :\
I wonder if there's a way for me to see your avatar history
Makes sense. I was actually *really* hoping you'd claim hero. SpwnX also claims hero, and with yoy1zoz2mom3 being confirmed hero, that makes 3 heroes (highly unlikely).
Here's my voting-trend notes on you:
9. Eruantien (3/10) (nobody, xtordx->SkeletonPunk, SpwnX, HeilMewTwo, RJS, coolsquid321) (recognized Vike as a threat but didn’t murder him: -1; late comms but didn’t wolfkill: -1)
Here's my notes on spanks:
4. SpwnX (5.5/10, Claims Hero) (nobody, SkeletonPunk, goreae, HeilMewTwo, RJS, coolsquid321) (No comms last 3 hours on no-murder day +.5; doesn’t know identity of spy +.5)
Mathematically I trust you more at this time. I'll probably be voting SpwnX and I'll be trying to convince others to do the same.
Don't I have 6? Oh, I just added the .5 for the spy thing this morning. He also deserves another +1 for claiming a role I don't believe.
Thx for correction.
fyi I already pretended I was bait to try to lure him out as a wolf-ally. He firmly claimed bachman. Don't pretend you're bait
I'll wait till I hear from you to vote.
I have no idea how the wolf thing is supposed to work. I won't be surprised if there are no wolves at all.
Here's my prediction: last man standing has shown himself to be a bloodthirsty dick and therefore is, himself, the final wolf.
Btw, why didn't you bandwagon on D3? You voted for spwnx and everyone else voted goreae.
If just a couple ppl vote for SpwnX, I can use my power to increase the vote tally if necessary.
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Hey squid, good job on your first game man.
On a scale of 1->10, where 10 is "rather high", how much wolfiness would you say your role has?
If he hasn't already, Vikestep is going to contact you soon and try to manipulate you into this and that for his amusement. Fair warning.
If you're the wolf, just fyi, my victory condition doesn't require you to lose. I'm happy to help you win so long as I win too.
Man that's really high. My thought process is to consider lynching Vike today and let you murder me when everyone else is dead on the last day. You won't be able to eat anyone the next day, but who cares, the game's over.
Oh, I can help with that man.
Here's the scale:
God (Cheese) 10/10. Total wolf.
Wolf: 7/10
Mad Warrior: 6/10
Bait: 5/10
Absorber: 4/10
Gambler: 3/10
Hero: 2/10
Bachman: 1/10
Everything else: 0/10
I'm a 5. My own wolf-factor is pretty brutal as it is.
Hey No fibbing.
You can't be a 1 because there's already too many of those (the_J and xtordX are both confirmed by god)
Honestly you know how to make a grown man weep at his desk. :`(
Something like this:
You are the bait!
If the wolf kills you, he or she will be unable to kill anyone the next day.
Victory condition(s): You cannot win alive. The villagers must win and you must be killed by the wolf in order for you to win.
I've retracted my vote for you. I'll see if I can find someone more suspicious to vote for.
Squid, if you show up in time, consider shifting your vote to spwnx. If 1 or 2 ppl vote for him, I can use my power to change the vote tally a bit and get him lynched instead of you.
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Guys I think we need to work together a bit better here. I'm just going to up and share what I know and what I think. I've included you both because every other player has an inkling possibility of being a wolf.
coolsquid321 (Claims bachman 5/10): annoying as fuck, but I think he's genuinely a bachman. I just spent 20 minutes interrogating him. I can't account for his goofing off claiming he's a wolf however. FYI: I pretended I was "bait" willing to work with him. I'll provide the convo in a moment to keep this one post from going too tl/dr.
Eruantien(Role?? 3/10): I have him as "unlikely to be wolf". He recognized Vike as a logical murder victim and didn't murder him. On the day the wolf forgot to murder anyone, Eruantien was still active late in the afternoon.
SpwnX (Claims Hero, 6/10): He has contributed virtually nothing to the game. He logs on to vote and goes away. On the day the wolf forgot to vote, SpwnX was absent for the 3 hours preceeding end of day.
Vikestep: (Claims Mad Warrior, 6/10) Has contributed nothing besides inflammatory speeches. He disappeared for a long period (4-5 hours) when the wolf neglected to kill. This is actually in his favour: I can't imagine Vike neglecting to murder.
Pyure: (Claims boring old villager, 0/10) I don't keep notes on myself aside from my voting history.
8. Pyure (nobody, xtordx->skeletonpunk(lock), Goreae, {Forgot to note}, RJS->xTordX, coolsquid321->??)
I'm keeping myself in the list of "suspects" because it might be statistically relevant.
I'm leaning towards voting spanks at this time. For a couple reasons:
1) Vike would have killed me
2) Vike would have killed the spy
3) Vike wouldn't forget to murder someone
4) SpwnX doesn't (reliably) know who the spy is.
Pyure: On a scale of 1->10, where ten is "rather high", how much wolfiness would you say your role has?
If you are the wolf, just fyi, my victory condition doesn't require you to lose. I'm happy to help you win so long as I win too.
Squid: For wolfiness, 6/10 maybe.
Pyure: Wow that is really high. My thought process is to consider lynching Vike today and let you murder me when everyone else is dead on the last day. You won't be able to eat anyone the next day, but who cares, the game's over. Thoughts?
Squid: Oh, is 6 high? Then I am lower. Maybe a bit more wolfy than some other roles, but not a lot.
Pyure: I can help with that man. Here's the scale:
God (Cheese) 10/10. Total wolf.
Wolf: 7/10
Mad Warrior: 6/10
Bait: 5/10
Absorber: 4/10
Gambler: 3/10
Hero: 2/10
Bachman: 1/10
Everything else: 0/10
I am a 5. My own wolf-factor is pretty brutal as it is.
Squid: Oh then I'm a 1. I'm just behaving a bit wolfy
Pyure: Hey No fibbing. You cannot be a 1 because there are already too many of those (the_J and xtordX are both confirmed by god) Honestly you know how to make a grown man weep at his desk.
Squid: at least *was* a bachman. Can an absorber have taken it?
Pyure: Maybe you should triple-check the role you got from cheese? He would not make three bachmans. You should have a convo from him telling you what your power is and what your victory condition is.
Squid: Believe what you want. He wrote that I am a bachman.
Pyure: Something like this?
You are the bait!
If the wolf kills you, he or she will be unable to kill anyone the next day.
Victory condition(s): You cannot win alive. The villagers must win and you must be killed by the wolf in order for you to win.
Squid: I cannot copy directly, but he wrote: (title: )You are the bachman! Win with the village.
Pyure: I've retracted my vote for you. I'll see if I can find someone more suspicious to vote for.
Squid: If I was the wolf, I would have stopped claiming being a bachman long ago.
New info: Eruantien says he's a hero. If we assume that Cheese would not make three heroes, that means either Eruantien or SpwnX is lying. I trust Eruantien in this case.
Info: I just analyzed SpwnX's voting pattern. It precisely follows a pattern for a Hero: e.g. he always bandwagons. Just fair disclosure.
Eruantien's pattern has an anomaly: he failed to bandwagon on D3, voting for spwnx instead of goreae (who was lynched). He also voted first that day.
Shrug for all I know we're all wolves and we just don't know it. The role I received from cheese is "boring old villager" and I'm working with that.
If just a couple ppl vote for SpwnX, I can use my power to increase the vote tally if necessary.
Hey tord, you became a forum member on my birthday, yay
If I'm dead today guys, definitely suspect SpwnX. A different wolf would leave me alive so that I could deflect a day's worth of voting to him.
xtord you were around to support my vote. Shame on you.
How are all these dead people claiming things?
I have really no good advice anymore. I suggest ppl do what they want
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You're sort of proven as a villager. RJS isn't. So if you want me to talk about anything, I'll do it here.
I'm a "boring old villager."
Once in the game I may choose a person, and that person will get an extra vote that night. I must be alive to use this ability.
You're the only one I've confessed my role to.
Huh, good to know, thx. Too bad there were no obvious lies to work with.
Gid, how many people do NOT know you're a spy?
Would you consider your role to be powerful?
If I were a wolf and I knew your identity, you'd be dead by now.
Ok. I'm going to give only a tiny increase of suspicion to ppl who don't know your role. Personally, I find convos to be an important bad guy tool and I think you hamper that, but for someone like, say, SoraZodia, who plays quietly, they might just be content to sit there silently eating people every night.
Gideon, if I die soon: Keep a close eye on the "younger" players. In particular some on your list, such as Eruantien, xTordX, even coolsquid.
I find it odd that nobody has murdered me or vike. Vike in particular has a reputation. For that matter, if another "mad warrior" pops up in the nightly summary, kill Vike right away.
lol
Honestly I've 180'd since that comment. Now I have my eyes on RJS and StrikingWolf, neither of whom were active later in the day.
I can't imagine VikeStep would forget to wolf-kill, and I can sort of see him keeping me alive for fun so long as I wasn't a particular threat.
In descending order of suspicion at this time:
I think I meant to flip Strike and Vike there.
No particular reason it isn't possible.
I have like zero good information here man. I feel like I'm shooting in the dark.
One wolf doesn't present enough intrigue to get info from.
Gideon, I may tell some fibs to Eruantien. I need to start trying to lure out the wolf, and if I can get him to divulge some major interest in, say, the spy, I might point him at someone like Vikestep.
I think that makes 3 bachmans. I don't buy it. Squid's gotta be wolf.
Gideon, if you wake up on time, help me lynch SpwnX plz. I'm basically asking everyone to assist with SpwnX today and then Vike tomorrow.
I expect to be murdered in 2 hours, at which point Vike will have free reign to make up whatever stories about elves and santa and roleblocking he pleases and history suggests people will eat it up.
As always, I encourage you to withhold any obviously "valuable" information from me any anyone else. I (and anyone else) may be a wolf.
Did you tell your role to anyone last night? VikeStep in particular was polling people yesterday. Did you divulge your role to him?
If you divulged a buff role to someone, I'd be concerned you told your role to a wolf.
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Greetings and such HeilMewTwo
You aren't willing to disclose your reasons for voting me on the main thread. Can you tell me why privately?
I'm guessing you're "bait", or somehow affected by an external ability.
If you're affected by an external ability that prevents you to disclose such, please don't reply at all.
Interesting. Thx.
Fwiw, I suspect somesone is "Gideon". If not, just fyi, Gideon is confirmed goodie.
Do we trust him for some reason? I don't.
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I think its definitely worth keeping an eye on. Hrm.
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huh.
That's pretty hard role-evidence to contradict.
I didn't realize we'd actually picked out someone lying. That's very interesting.
I'm inclined to vote HeilMewTwo based purely on that and for lack of anything better.
Holy crap, did my last comment start this landslide against Heilmewtwo?
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Hey dood!
We're at a point of the game where I've gotta start asking ppl their roles. Will you divulge yours?
I'm a Villager. In the boring, old sense.
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convo Pyure posted
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I'm not super-100%-ready to disclose my role. I'm a villager, and not a wolf.
Good luck with the bait thing though.
Not in entirety. I have RJS with a couple of "suspicions" and eruantien with a couple of "negative suspicions".
At first glance, yes. I'm going through it in detail to confirm, gimme a sec.
Word for word looks legit.
[Redacted] is:
"Well to address your second point I actually am the mad warrior this time. Not sure how I can prove it except by using it and dieing."
Vike's entire thread looks suspicious as all fuck but I can't correlate Vike=Wolf with him a) not murdering me, and b) not murdering the spy.
HTH
Gideon?
Well that was a useful two-way exchange of information
Hmm. I don't like what this suggests about your motives.
What I mean is, if you think i'm a villager (and I think you do), why aren't you helping me filter out the other villagers?
For instance, I've started a minor lynch on RJS. But if you know he's inno, lemme know. (the fact that he was contacted by the spy does not make him innocent btw)
1. Ok thx. He proved he was the spy to me on N2, but I kept wondering if he had managed to "work the system" somehow
2. Who is more suspicious to you than RJS?
In all honesty, my notes aren't very useful. There's no team of wolves here, and 90% of my logic is based on wolf-cooperation flags.
If you have any specific questions, I'll tell you what I know.
To give you a rough idea: the highest suspicion level is currently 7/10 (RJS).
You have a 5.5/10 yourself, and you earned that 0.5 simply because you hadn't been active for a long time when the wolf "forgot" to murder someone. Evidence is shit in this game.
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I like cheerios!
I assumed my Ralph Wiggum-esque reply would have made you say "Boy did I bet on the wrong horse."
Ok, since you're not to be deterred, I assume its a typo because its Cheese and he does that
If the next summary has a "7", I'll be more concerned. Nothing we can do about it tonight.
Woh, you have powers? I didn't know that, I just thought you were a villager like me.
Oh, right, totally.
Well, someone's gotta get lynched. I figure I should just keep doing my best to rate "most likely to be wolf", and if that means I die in the process, well, its a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
Its possible that a particularly vindictive person might decide to use a power in retribution, knowing it could cost his team a victory, but you understand I can't operate thinking someone would do that.
I actually put new guy as -1 suspicion for that very reason, but I'm also conscious that I publicized that theory before the game started and Cheese might want to turn the tables on me.
You planning to gun anybody down sir?
btw, I checked with god: I was concerned the mad warrior could bring down two suckers, but I think because of the order of operations (powers first, then lynches) you can't trigger your second-kill if you use your first (which kills you before you're lynched)
PS: Just to mess with the universe a bit, I'm about to ninja-switch my vote
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Hey. I have you as "pretty darn innocent" since early game.
9. Eruantien (3/10) (nobody, xtordx->SkeletonPunk, SpwnX, HeilMewTwo, RJS) (recognized Vike as a threat but didn’t murder him: -1; late comms but didn’t wolfkill: -1)
(I realize some of that is gibberish to others, I'm too lazy to clean it up)
I'm a villager of the "literally a villager" sort. Can you disclose your role?
Is there any particular role you need to know about so you don't accidentally lynch him?
Did I already start a thread with you? :\ Damn I am terrible at keeping track, sorry.
I have no idea what role you're claiming.
I don't think coolsquid is really a wolf. I think he's an idiot or a genius (most likely the former)
I'll jot you down as another boring old villager for now (which is what I am)
I played the original Zelda like 20 years ago, I forget everything about it (Except that it was fun) Sorry :\
I wonder if there's a way for me to see your avatar history
Makes sense. I was actually *really* hoping you'd claim hero. SpwnX also claims hero, and with yoy1zoz2mom3 being confirmed hero, that makes 3 heroes (highly unlikely).
Here's my voting-trend notes on you:
9. Eruantien (3/10) (nobody, xtordx->SkeletonPunk, SpwnX, HeilMewTwo, RJS, coolsquid321) (recognized Vike as a threat but didn’t murder him: -1; late comms but didn’t wolfkill: -1)
Here's my notes on spanks:
4. SpwnX (5.5/10, Claims Hero) (nobody, SkeletonPunk, goreae, HeilMewTwo, RJS, coolsquid321) (No comms last 3 hours on no-murder day +.5; doesn’t know identity of spy +.5)
Mathematically I trust you more at this time. I'll probably be voting SpwnX and I'll be trying to convince others to do the same.
Don't I have 6? Oh, I just added the .5 for the spy thing this morning. He also deserves another +1 for claiming a role I don't believe.
Thx for correction.
fyi I already pretended I was bait to try to lure him out as a wolf-ally. He firmly claimed bachman. Don't pretend you're bait
I'll wait till I hear from you to vote.
I have no idea how the wolf thing is supposed to work. I won't be surprised if there are no wolves at all.
Here's my prediction: last man standing has shown himself to be a bloodthirsty dick and therefore is, himself, the final wolf.
Btw, why didn't you bandwagon on D3? You voted for spwnx and everyone else voted goreae.
If just a couple ppl vote for SpwnX, I can use my power to increase the vote tally if necessary.
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Hey squid, good job on your first game man.
On a scale of 1->10, where 10 is "rather high", how much wolfiness would you say your role has?
If he hasn't already, Vikestep is going to contact you soon and try to manipulate you into this and that for his amusement. Fair warning.
If you're the wolf, just fyi, my victory condition doesn't require you to lose. I'm happy to help you win so long as I win too.
Man that's really high. My thought process is to consider lynching Vike today and let you murder me when everyone else is dead on the last day. You won't be able to eat anyone the next day, but who cares, the game's over.
Oh, I can help with that man.
Here's the scale:
God (Cheese) 10/10. Total wolf.
Wolf: 7/10
Mad Warrior: 6/10
Bait: 5/10
Absorber: 4/10
Gambler: 3/10
Hero: 2/10
Bachman: 1/10
Everything else: 0/10
I'm a 5. My own wolf-factor is pretty brutal as it is.
Hey
No fibbing. You can't be a 1 because there's already too many of those (the_J and xtordX are both confirmed by god)
Honestly you know how to make a grown man weep at his desk. :`(
Something like this:
You are the bait!
If the wolf kills you, he or she will be unable to kill anyone the next day.
Victory condition(s): You cannot win alive. The villagers must win and you must be killed by the wolf in order for you to win.
I've retracted my vote for you. I'll see if I can find someone more suspicious to vote for.
Squid, if you show up in time, consider shifting your vote to spwnx. If 1 or 2 ppl vote for him, I can use my power to change the vote tally a bit and get him lynched instead of you.
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Guys I think we need to work together a bit better here. I'm just going to up and share what I know and what I think. I've included you both because every other player has an inkling possibility of being a wolf.
- I have xTordX as a confirmed bachman, by virtue of word of god.
- I have Gideon as a more-or-less-confirmed Spy, by virtue of the fact he knows everyone's convos.
- Pyure is a "boring old villager." I am not in any way confirmed, I don't expect you to pretend that I am. Your balanced trust is appreciated.
coolsquid321 (Claims bachman 5/10): annoying as fuck, but I think he's genuinely a bachman. I just spent 20 minutes interrogating him. I can't account for his goofing off claiming he's a wolf however. FYI: I pretended I was "bait" willing to work with him. I'll provide the convo in a moment to keep this one post from going too tl/dr.
Eruantien(Role?? 3/10): I have him as "unlikely to be wolf". He recognized Vike as a logical murder victim and didn't murder him. On the day the wolf forgot to murder anyone, Eruantien was still active late in the afternoon.
SpwnX (Claims Hero, 6/10): He has contributed virtually nothing to the game. He logs on to vote and goes away. On the day the wolf forgot to vote, SpwnX was absent for the 3 hours preceeding end of day.
Vikestep: (Claims Mad Warrior, 6/10) Has contributed nothing besides inflammatory speeches. He disappeared for a long period (4-5 hours) when the wolf neglected to kill. This is actually in his favour: I can't imagine Vike neglecting to murder.
Pyure: (Claims boring old villager, 0/10) I don't keep notes on myself aside from my voting history.
8. Pyure (nobody, xtordx->skeletonpunk(lock), Goreae, {Forgot to note}, RJS->xTordX, coolsquid321->??)
I'm keeping myself in the list of "suspects" because it might be statistically relevant.
I'm leaning towards voting spanks at this time. For a couple reasons:
1) Vike would have killed me
2) Vike would have killed the spy
3) Vike wouldn't forget to murder someone
4) SpwnX doesn't (reliably) know who the spy is.
Pyure: On a scale of 1->10, where ten is "rather high", how much wolfiness would you say your role has?
If you are the wolf, just fyi, my victory condition doesn't require you to lose. I'm happy to help you win so long as I win too.
Squid: For wolfiness, 6/10 maybe.
Pyure: Wow that is really high. My thought process is to consider lynching Vike today and let you murder me when everyone else is dead on the last day. You won't be able to eat anyone the next day, but who cares, the game's over. Thoughts?
Squid: Oh, is 6 high? Then I am lower. Maybe a bit more wolfy than some other roles, but not a lot.
Pyure: I can help with that man. Here's the scale:
God (Cheese) 10/10. Total wolf.
Wolf: 7/10
Mad Warrior: 6/10
Bait: 5/10
Absorber: 4/10
Gambler: 3/10
Hero: 2/10
Bachman: 1/10
Everything else: 0/10
I am a 5. My own wolf-factor is pretty brutal as it is.
Squid: Oh then I'm a 1. I'm just behaving a bit wolfy
Pyure: Hey
No fibbing. You cannot be a 1 because there are already too many of those (the_J and xtordX are both confirmed by god) Honestly you know how to make a grown man weep at his desk.Squid: at least *was* a bachman. Can an absorber have taken it?
Pyure: Maybe you should triple-check the role you got from cheese? He would not make three bachmans. You should have a convo from him telling you what your power is and what your victory condition is.
Squid: Believe what you want. He wrote that I am a bachman.
Pyure: Something like this?
You are the bait!
If the wolf kills you, he or she will be unable to kill anyone the next day.
Victory condition(s): You cannot win alive. The villagers must win and you must be killed by the wolf in order for you to win.
Squid: I cannot copy directly, but he wrote: (title: )You are the bachman! Win with the village.
Pyure: I've retracted my vote for you. I'll see if I can find someone more suspicious to vote for.
Squid: If I was the wolf, I would have stopped claiming being a bachman long ago.
New info: Eruantien says he's a hero. If we assume that Cheese would not make three heroes, that means either Eruantien or SpwnX is lying. I trust Eruantien in this case.
Info: I just analyzed SpwnX's voting pattern. It precisely follows a pattern for a Hero: e.g. he always bandwagons. Just fair disclosure.
Eruantien's pattern has an anomaly: he failed to bandwagon on D3, voting for spwnx instead of goreae (who was lynched). He also voted first that day.
Shrug for all I know we're all wolves and we just don't know it. The role I received from cheese is "boring old villager" and I'm working with that.
If just a couple ppl vote for SpwnX, I can use my power to increase the vote tally if necessary.
Hey tord, you became a forum member on my birthday, yay
If I'm dead today guys, definitely suspect SpwnX. A different wolf would leave me alive so that I could deflect a day's worth of voting to him.
xtord you were around to support my vote. Shame on you.
How are all these dead people claiming things?
I have really no good advice anymore. I suggest ppl do what they want
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You're sort of proven as a villager. RJS isn't. So if you want me to talk about anything, I'll do it here.
I'm a "boring old villager."
Once in the game I may choose a person, and that person will get an extra vote that night. I must be alive to use this ability.
You're the only one I've confessed my role to.
Huh, good to know, thx. Too bad there were no obvious lies to work with.
Gid, how many people do NOT know you're a spy?
Would you consider your role to be powerful?
If I were a wolf and I knew your identity, you'd be dead by now.
Ok. I'm going to give only a tiny increase of suspicion to ppl who don't know your role. Personally, I find convos to be an important bad guy tool and I think you hamper that, but for someone like, say, SoraZodia, who plays quietly, they might just be content to sit there silently eating people every night.
Gideon, if I die soon: Keep a close eye on the "younger" players. In particular some on your list, such as Eruantien, xTordX, even coolsquid.
I find it odd that nobody has murdered me or vike. Vike in particular has a reputation. For that matter, if another "mad warrior" pops up in the nightly summary, kill Vike right away.
lol
Honestly I've 180'd since that comment. Now I have my eyes on RJS and StrikingWolf, neither of whom were active later in the day.
I can't imagine VikeStep would forget to wolf-kill, and I can sort of see him keeping me alive for fun so long as I wasn't a particular threat.
In descending order of suspicion at this time:
- RJS
- VikeStep
- StrikingWolf
- coolSquid321
- SpwnX
- xTordX
- Eruantien
- GideonSeymour
- LivingAngryCheese
- Pyure
I think I meant to flip Strike and Vike there.
No particular reason it isn't possible.
I have like zero good information here man. I feel like I'm shooting in the dark.
One wolf doesn't present enough intrigue to get info from.
Gideon, I may tell some fibs to Eruantien. I need to start trying to lure out the wolf, and if I can get him to divulge some major interest in, say, the spy, I might point him at someone like Vikestep.
I think that makes 3 bachmans. I don't buy it. Squid's gotta be wolf.
Gideon, if you wake up on time, help me lynch SpwnX plz. I'm basically asking everyone to assist with SpwnX today and then Vike tomorrow.
I expect to be murdered in 2 hours, at which point Vike will have free reign to make up whatever stories about elves and santa and roleblocking he pleases and history suggests people will eat it up.
Convo Pyure posted
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Hola compadre.
Thank you
Why are we voting for Heil?
ok... what are these new clues Pyure has?
Thank you
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Yes
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Hola compadre.
Thank you
Why are we voting for Heil?
ok... what are these new clues Pyure has?
Thank you
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Yes
Splitting because hit word limit.
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* The topic is: SISTETH TAKE YOUR MEDS|Due to Wagon not wanting to cope with all the drama, skyem123 is now in control. calm down, please? | I'm afraid I can't let you do that, skyem123
* Topic was set by “Gideon|[email protected]” on “2014-11-22 22:41:23”
* Spock has set mode: +o Gideonseymour
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:08:34]
I need help
‹SpwnX›
[22:08:57]
oh, hey.
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:09:05]
o/
‹Sisteth›
[22:09:12]
o/
‹Shocky4›
[22:09:12]
Gideonseymour o/ * \o Sisteth - 3rd time
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:09:26]
I honestly had no idea Strikingwolf was going to post that, btw
‹SpwnX›
[22:09:49]
if you're talking bout the wolf game, you're safe
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:10:02]
*phew*
‹SpwnX›
[22:10:09]
although it would be lovely if i can get more info aswell
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:10:20]
We'll see
‹Sisteth›
[22:10:21]
wait what
‹SpwnX›
[22:10:24]
yknow, being in the dark with the lowest chance to win possible role is annoying
‹Sisteth›
[22:10:32]
uh
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:10:34]
Hero?
‹SpwnX›
[22:10:36]
aye.
[22:10:38]
hero i am
* Sisteth
[22:10:38]
has no idea wtf is happen
‹SpwnX›
[22:10:48]
the hero of industrial revolution and of the empire of Gregorius Techneticies
‹Sisteth›
[22:10:50]
Oh you mean werewolf
‹SpwnX›
[22:10:52]
ALL HAIL GREG!
[22:10:54]
:D
‹Sisteth›
[22:11:13]
"greggy_greg_kindly_do_stuff_a_sock_in_it"
[22:11:25]
oredict name for leather boots
‹SpwnX›
[22:11:29]
yes, we all know that.
‹Sisteth›
[22:11:34]
lol
‹SpwnX›
[22:11:39]
it was worse before
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:11:57]
SpwnX: I would, I'm the hero. I'm obliged to hop in any bandwagon, as i've stated in my vote on skeletonpunk.
‹Sisteth›
[22:11:58]
Really?
‹SpwnX›
[22:12:09]
oh, right. The spy.
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:12:11]
Sound familiar? :D
‹SpwnX›
[22:12:18]
sure it does.
‹Sisteth›
[22:12:23]
Also, btw, what's the appeal of this werewolf game?
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:12:32]
This one?
‹SpwnX›
[22:12:34]
do you know which person i was talking to aswell?
‹Sisteth›
[22:12:38]
No i mean
[22:12:43]
just the entire thing of werewolf
‹SpwnX›
[22:12:48]
its a game of lie and deception Sisteth
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:12:56]
You were talking to Shazam:
[22:12:56]
Spwn! My man! How you doing? How're the kids? Feeling excited for the game? Yeah? Awesome. You see, I'm getting into some early networking here in Finalwolf. Would you be interested in an alliance? Minimal risk involved for both parties, for reasons I'll be happy to elaborate on if you're in. Interested?
‹Sisteth›
[22:13:00]
Sounds like my forte
‹SpwnX›
[22:13:08]
you should join us in the next game
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:13:15]
It's crazy fun
‹SpwnX›
[22:13:21]
So you're the spy?
‹Sisteth›
[22:13:21]
I'm really good at lying, but I'm also really good at scaring the absolute FUCK out of people
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:13:25]
Yeap
‹SpwnX›
[22:13:33]
I see
‹Sisteth›
[22:13:43]
Essentially, if I don't lie, I can coax it out of someone really easy
‹SpwnX›
[22:13:45]
the spy is the most powerful role in that game...
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:13:50]
ikr
‹SpwnX›
[22:13:53]
we'll see Sisteth , we'll see
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:14:00]
I can totally see what the Wolf is thinking
[22:14:09]
/s
‹Sisteth›
[22:14:11]
Mmm, depends on the resources I have around me, really.
‹SpwnX›
[22:14:32]
whats wrong on doing more RPing than you already do here?
‹Sisteth›
[22:14:33]
Anyway, can you at least explain to me wtf this is
[22:14:42]
no I mean in the situation
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:14:45]
A couple people in a village are wolves
‹Sisteth›
[22:14:52]
okay
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:14:57]
The wolves are trying to kil all the villagers
‹Sisteth›
[22:14:57]
that one's a bit obv
[22:15:02]
still obv
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:15:09]
The villagers, once per day, can vote to lynch a person
[22:15:14]
They want to kill the wolves
‹Sisteth›
[22:15:15]
`urban lynch
‹Shocky4›
[22:15:16]
Sisteth: http://bots.axxim.net:8000/s/uv Lynch: To execute without due process of law, especially to hang, as by a mob. Example: We were going to lynch Mr. Clyde because he didn't have a new shipment of potatoes last sundee.
‹Sisteth›
[22:15:19]
forgot for a sec
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:15:23]
But they don't know who the wolves are
‹Sisteth›
[22:15:25]
Well yo udon't say
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:15:30]
So it's lying and deception
‹SpwnX›
[22:15:34]
so the wolves wear sheep
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:15:40]
lel
‹Sisteth›
[22:15:40]
ok
‹SpwnX›
[22:15:41]
and thats what we get
‹Sisteth›
[22:15:44]
anything else?
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:15:52]
Sometimes people have powers
‹Sisteth›
[22:15:59]
Oh shit
‹SpwnX›
[22:16:02]
sometimes you don't and is just fucking screwed :P
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:16:05]
Like talking to the dead
[22:16:09]
Or shooting people
[22:16:12]
That kinda thing
[22:16:18]
This game, I'm the spy
‹Sisteth›
[22:16:21]
Hrm
‹SpwnX›
[22:16:26]
or in gid's case, knowing every single private conversation
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:16:28]
I can see what others say in convos
[22:16:31]
Yeao
‹Sisteth›
[22:16:35]
I want the power to control something similar to chains or tentacles or whatever
[22:16:38]
Just something prehensile
‹SpwnX›
[22:16:47]
but, a question, is it atributed to a speaker?
[22:17:09]
cause i remember the honeypot of the unfairwolf couldnt actually know who was speaking what
‹Sisteth›
[22:17:26]
I don't much care for hearing what other people say or killing people on the spot
‹SpwnX›
[22:17:40]
Information is decisive Sisteth
‹Sisteth›
[22:17:43]
I care for torturing them within inches of shattering their last shard of sanity and forcing them to speak with glee
‹SpwnX›
[22:17:44]
and lack of it aswell...
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:17:47]
I can see who is talking, 'cause Cheese quotes them directly
‹Sisteth›
[22:17:55]
xD
‹SpwnX›
[22:17:55]
thats cheesy
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:18:03]
lel
‹Sisteth›
[22:18:07]
Btw, is this a forum topic? I assume it is
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:18:14]
Yeah
‹SpwnX›
[22:18:16]
yes it is, in the forum games section
‹Sisteth›
[22:18:16]
if so then that's so god damn out of line
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:18:18]
A new one for each game
‹Sisteth›
[22:18:20]
fuck
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:18:27]
?
‹Sisteth›
[22:18:39]
I like things that are live-action like IRC.
‹SpwnX›
[22:18:50]
you get a more or less live-action on the forum
‹Sisteth›
[22:18:53]
On the forums you have to wait for other people to respond and you could get ninja'd
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:19:01]
Yeah
[22:19:05]
But it's bundles of fun
[22:19:13]
Plus, there's much more time to interact
‹Sisteth›
[22:19:13]
Nah
‹SpwnX›
[22:19:20]
yup
[22:19:24]
time is the key here
‹Sisteth›
[22:19:29]
There could be the same amount of time with live-action
‹SpwnX›
[22:19:31]
you have time to plan, scheme, sheep around
‹Sisteth›
[22:19:33]
in fact more
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:19:52]
Because live action goes on for possibly weeks with no breaks?
‹SpwnX›
[22:19:54]
the problem with live action is that you can't have all players online at once
‹Sisteth›
[22:20:12]
Gideon: you don't get what I mean by live-action
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:20:18]
I don't, really
‹Sisteth›
[22:20:22]
SpwnX: Yes, but that's also a problem with the forums
‹SpwnX›
[22:20:25]
aswell you don't have time to analyze powers
‹Sisteth›
[22:20:26]
ugh
[22:20:31]
`urban text rp
‹Shocky4›
[22:20:31]
Sisteth: No results.
‹Sisteth›
[22:20:35]
GOD DAMN YOU
[22:20:38]
`google text rp
‹Shocky4›
[22:20:38]
Sisteth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_text-based_role-playing_game -- Online text-based role-playing game - Wikipedia, the free ...: Online text-based role playing games date to 1978, with the creation of MUD1, .... to in the rollingroleplay community as "orthodox", "unorthodox", and "hybrid".
‹SpwnX›
[22:20:39]
and Sisteth , http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/threads/werewolf-organisation.46259/
‹Gideonseymour›
[22:20:45]
*you should try it, just for one game...*
‹SpwnX›
[22:20:52]
just. fucking. do. it
‹Sisteth›
[22:20:53]
FineI can confirm the truth of this talk.
Just happened.
So, dude, things are getting dangerous. The wolf might actually win. Got any info to spare?
Hey gid, can you help me a bit here and vote for pyure today?
Vikestep has given his deal and I think he is right.
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HAYO there shazam. I'm doing fine thank you. I don't even have a GF, imagine kids :|. I think i'm excited for this game. Yeah, I'm awesome.
I'm sure interested this time. I have nothing to lose on such alliance, I think?
I'll take it. Unless the RNG gods are again against me. Then i can just laugh...
I would, I'm the hero. I'm obliged to hop in any bandwagon, as i've stated in my vote on skeletonpunk.
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Hayo, I'm the hero of Industrial revolution and of the galactic empire of Gregorius Techneticies.
Jesus, m8s. You have no idea how long that took. I didn't include other's replies because that would have taken. Forever. I'm keeping my anti-smite vote on FrigidAuquaticCreature666 for now, because there's too much evidence for each side.
Also day over. Happy Thanksgiving
Vikestep, then Eruantien
Vike has been shown to be making up stories. Lies take precedence over number of roles called.
Vike has been shown to be making up stories. Lies take precedence over number of roles called.
However, if you are a hero, nobody will believe me any more about being a third hero. So I have one more day to find the wolf.
Of course, I don't believe you're a hero either... so we're cool, right?