Not you, it's jordsta(whom I've butted heads with before) who acts like FTB's cheerleader and sole protector and it gets wearisome...huh? by whom?
Granted I skimmed some posts here (Vaudril's was even more tl/dr than usual) but i thought the gist was all constructive.
I certainly don't feel like anyone's insulting me. I do my part, and I'm reasonably sure the rest of the team appreciates it
Who suggested that argument?Anyway back on topic, the "don't want to add more mods in case someone goes mad" argument is a fail for me. You're balancing something that might happen(with a very remote chance) against something that is happening everyday to destroy the sites reputation.
Agreed on this front. And FWIW, you and the other spam cleaners have probably nuked fewer legitimate posts than I have on accident.Yep. One of the key solutions is really simply to find another member or two who is happy being a garbage collector.
For the record: I love being a garbage collector. Most of the time its blatantly simple to determine spam, but every once in a blue moon I'll escalate it and I'll get a note from padfoote telling me if I was dumb or not.
Eh, I'll take the criticism, I actually prefer getting it to know what's going on here for everyone rather than not hearing anything.Exactly, this is all that's needed but any criticism(constructive or not) of this forum and you get ganged up on by the loyal cadre bellowing how dare you insult the forum and it's not the mods job etc etc all the while spouting excuses.
???Haha and apologies to Padfoote for straining the leash of his self control.
You realize that I am starting up competition to FTB , so cheering it on isn't really something I'd do?Not you, it's jordsta(whom I've butted heads with before) who acts like FTB's cheerleader and sole protector and it gets wearisome...
That's probably his interpretation of my admonition to not just hire a bunch of people and throw them at it. And I stand by that admonition; because it's a spike-phenomenon, you aren't going to retain the long-term interest of would-be moderators such that they'll be attentive for the spikes they're meant to handle anyway. If they were attentive enough to stick around, they'd be stepping all over each other toes for the off-periods. This doesn't mean don't get any more people, but understand the consequences of such (and I offer this same admonition on almost any issue of this nature because that's my political leaning; it's often not about more manpower/funding, it's about the right manpower/funding).Who suggested that argument?
The mod queue is actually a lot easier to take care of thanks to a few improvements lately. That many items takes about five minutes now, assuming you aren't on mobile trying to handle it. So with that taken into account, having a few additional spam cleaners would be enough to take care of the issues that pop up when the rest of us aren't active. That being said, I know nothing of the process to become a spam cleaner, so I don't know what to be looking for to recommend people to the team.
- Get at least one more moderator who is regularly and normally awake and active in that same 0400-1200 GMT period (not only to be there for the onslaught, but to reduce the queue actively; I can say from experience that it's super-annoying to wake up to a 90+ mod queue and have to clean it all).
Can't we just ping @slowpoke then? or do we have to contact him in another way.This thread really needs to be re-titled to "Wakey wakey admins..." Or even Slow for that matter.
When the first group of moderators were selected (my group) We were selected for all different time zones (this was before I got my night shift job)
Which mean during the day time (for me) I was banning bots and used to somewhat tag team Vauthil (Swear he used to sleep with one eye open on the forums anyway)
This whole Spam bot has been a problem for AGES! It's just being a joke nowadays, It took forever while for even slow or Nana to see the spam that was in front of them. (kinda a reason why I retired.. I loved being a moderator however hated being a garbage collector)
TL;DR - Admin/slow need to fix this problem, Doesn't come down to moderators all the time.
spam collector will can bored and leave anyway.
No one gets paid so meh.
From my experiences Slow is rarely on the forums. However, a few of the people who have posted here are in (potentially) direct contact with him daily via Skype, and other means of communication. So I wouldn't put it past them to have made him, and captainnana aware of the situation.
It's actually kinda funny you put it that way. For some of the core team, it's disinterest in the forums since it doesn't affect their "job" very much. But for people like slow and me, it's actually because we're afraid of messing things up by changing something we don't know the consequences of. I've actually intentionally spent a lot more time on the forums recently so when I did start trying to fix things I had a better feel for the community.the forum does not loom very largely in the FTB brass' day-to-day priority list.
There are two types of people in the world. Those who religiously read every message they get, and those who don't. Slowpoke is of the latter, though partly due to the volume of messages he gets each day. I can guarantee I'll show up in a thread if someone pings me. Your first resort should be to report a post and let the moderators deal with it, but if you ping me I'll be happy to help.
That should be done asap. I have skipped spam reporting because waiting is annoying.Lift the report cooldown, at least from the accounts who meet the "is actually a human and has been around the forum a little bit" criterion, with the publicly transmitted understanding that people who use the button to harass moderators will get a sledgehammer to their face.