Unleashed Tinkers' Construct Smeltery

[DeadlyPeanut]

Has anyone found out how to use the Alloy smelter, its in the NEI if you look up an alloy molten metal, im guessing its a configuration on the smeltery but i havnt figure out how to input the liquid metals or the configuration needed.

I know you can create alloys by placing the raw ores in a smeltery ( 3 aluminum : 1 copper ext ext.)

But i have all my metals in railcraft tanks cause its gotta be the coolest way ive seen in mod to double your ore output , better then the dumb pulverizers those got boring awhile ago , sure it takes a little more effert but i like it.

So it looks like this alloy furnace is what you would use to pump liquid metals in, combine em and get an alloy out.... or so i think thats what it does ? just not quite sure how to make it. Ive tried putting seared tanks in a basic smeltery and putting the req molten metals in the tanks and fueling it with lava and hopping the alloy would come out of the drain.... it didnt work ive browsed many wikis and cant find anything also

 

[RedBoss]

 

[DeadlyPeanut]

Ok i didnt watch the whole thing cause its 38 mins long but, i couldnt find an answer to my question in the parts i skimmed I apologize if i missed it, Im looking for a way to pump 2 already molten metals into an "Alloy Furnace" which i assume is basically the smeltery. In the NEI to make aluminum brass via this method it says in an "Alloy Furnace" you need 24 mB Molten Aluminum , 8 mB Molten Copper and you get 16 mB Molten Aluminum brass. Im trying to figure out basically where you would input these 2 molten metals , and the configuration of the Smeltery ( assuming its different from the basic layout ) I attempted my best guess way of doing this but it didnt work.

Of course i could always stick 3 aluminum and 1 copper ore into the basic smeltery ive built and it would give me aluminum brass which i could pump to a railcraft tank( which im already doing for base metals IE Pure Molten Iron or Copper or Aluminum... but thats to easy i like to over complicate stuff.

 

[Lohengrin]

Maybe Logistic Pipes? Liquid Log pipes you can get pretty specific with amounts and dont need to can anything as it packages it up for you and sends it down the line. Not quite sure how that would work now that I have said that. Requester liquid pipe on furnace, maybe two, and Provider liquid pipes on tanks? Can dial the request to exact amount of mB. Not sure about the alloy furnace part though. Something new perhaps, or something planned but not there yet? Alloy furnace in GT, which isnt in Unleashed (unless you added it I suppose) and in RP2, which also isnt in Unleashed. Third alloy furnace?
Ok, this was all stream of conciousness...sorry, not terribly helpful in hindsight.

You can pipe the molten metals back into the Smeltry via the drains though I thought. Just attach and wrench them to pour back in. Drains will work both ways.

Maybe set up log liquid pipes to pour into smeltry drains and go that way.

 

[Malexion]

If you could set a valve to release a specific amount of liquid what your asking would be possible.

Only current methods include, Melting ores, melting ingots/blocks, or pouring all of both alloy metals together into the smeltery and whatever is able to mix will mix, and there will be leftovers from the two metals sitting on top of the liquid metal alloy which can be viewed on the smeltery controller.

 

[DeadlyPeanut]

Im getting alloy furnace just because that what it says in the NEI , there the smeltery which melts down ores and anything else , just looked it up its called the "Alloy Smeltery" in the NEI where it looks like the input is 2 molten liquids to output the molten Alloy , im trying the drain thing right now see what happens maybe if you reverse pump the molten metals back into the Smeltery it will work , ill let you know

 

[DeadlyPeanut]

Worked Thanks

This mod is amazing alot of practically undocumented stuff at least on wikis or youtubers ive seen that it can do.
When you reverse the drains the molten copper and molten aluminum pump in. It creates molten Aluminum brass any left over copper/alluminum stay in the internal tank of the smelter, it can hold and separate 3 different ( or more ? ) liquids they show up as different colored layers that you can mouse over on the tank readout out in the smelters GUI.

You can then pump that aluminum brass out like any other metal ( which is also sortof undocumented , mod works perfectly with buildcraft pipes and the molten liquids store in railcraft tanks )

One problem is separating the 3 liquids after you pump em out but theres gotta be an easy solution to that either some pipe i dont know of the separates liquids or multiple seared tanks

 

[Bibble]

For splitting the metals, the liquid router from MFR would do the trick. alternatively, you could just pump each into a BC tank of it's own.

 

[Malexion]

I believe seared glass from TC also can hold liquid metal, though im not sure how much or if they can stack.

 

[DeadlyPeanut]

Ill check out the liquid router , 3+ seared tanks would work just be a little cumbersome. I believe a seared tank holds 4 buckets. In the end each metal will have its own buildcraft tank just kinda experimenting atm

 

[mushroom taco]

Worked Thanks

This mod is amazing alot of practically undocumented stuff at least on wikis or youtubers ive seen that it can do.
When you reverse the drains the molten copper and molten aluminum pump in. It creates molten Aluminum brass any left over copper/alluminum stay in the internal tank of the smelter, it can hold and separate 3 different ( or more ? ) liquids they show up as different colored layers that you can mouse over on the tank readout out in the smelters GUI.

You can then pump that aluminum brass out like any other metal ( which is also sortof undocumented , mod works perfectly with buildcraft pipes and the molten liquids store in railcraft tanks )

One problem is separating the 3 liquids after you pump em out but theres gotta be an easy solution to that either some pipe i dont know of the separates liquids or multiple seared tanks

It's not undocumented in any way or fashion.

It has these amazing books that you can get, wait for it, in the game!!

 

[Malexion]

Ill check out the liquid router , 3+ seared tanks would work just be a little cumbersome. I believe a seared tank holds 4 buckets. In the end each metal will have its own buildcraft tank just kinda experimenting atm

You can apparently also store it in the glass.

http://i.imgur.com/r5fymO5.png

 

[draeath]

I'm not sure as I haven't tried this myself, but I say it said that if you place a seared tank, attach a seared faucet, you can then send the molten metals -into- the smelter.

 

[rymmie1981]

Place a drain on your smeltery while facing down so the large opening is facing the sky. Place a faucet connected to a tank of some kind above it. The liquid will drain into the smeltery from there.

D---S
S---S
-SSS-

Just like that.

 

[frannic]

Place a drain on your smeltery while facing down so the large opening is facing the sky. Place a faucet connected to a tank of some kind above it. The liquid will drain into the smeltery from there.

D---S
S---S
-SSS-

Just like that.

It doesn't even have to face down. Just place it like you
normally would and connect a pipe on top. (Or a portable tank for example)

 

[RavynousHunter]

Also, fun note about Tinker's Construct smelteries: you don't actually need drains to get the liquid metal out. You can use anything that can carry a liquid, and yes, that means you can use liquiducts. The best part? You can connect the output of such a system to, say, an ingot cast and it'll fill the thing faster, and allow you to make more ingots at a time. You can also pull the resulting ingots out via Applied Energistics import buses.

In theory, you could have an entire ore processing system based entirely around smelteries. Just keep in mind the various alloy combinations; you'll need more than one smeltery so you never get an alloy you don't want, like aluminum brass, bronze, or manyullyn.

 

[TangentialThreat]

Also, fun note about Tinker's Construct smelteries: you don't actually need drains to get the liquid metal out. You can use anything that can carry a liquid, and yes, that means you can use liquiducts. The best part? You can connect the output of such a system to, say, an ingot cast and it'll fill the thing faster, and allow you to make more ingots at a time. You can also pull the resulting ingots out via Applied Energistics import buses.

In theory, you could have an entire ore processing system based entirely around smelteries. Just keep in mind the various alloy combinations; you'll need more than one smeltery so you never get an alloy you don't want, like aluminum brass, bronze, or manyullyn.

Accidental bronze I understand, but why wouldn't I want glorious purple manyullyn? Aluminum brass, you mean drawbridge materials?

 

[RavynousHunter]

Well, you can have intentional alloys if you want 'em, I just like to make alloys, aside from invar, as I need 'em.

 

[Symmetryc]

Accidental bronze I understand, but why wouldn't I want glorious purple manyullyn? Aluminum brass, you mean drawbridge materials?

I use cobalt and ardite in almost every one of my tools, but I rarely use Manyullyn. It's really underpowered imo.

 

[TangentialThreat]

I use cobalt and ardite in almost every one of my tools, but I rarely use Manyullyn. It's really underpowered imo.

Manyullyn makes the most useful weapons because it has the highest damage modifier (2.0).

However, as it turns out I'd been doing it wrong and cobalt has a higher base mining speed (11 vs 9) so using that for all your digging tools makes sense.

What's the point of pure ardite though?