Understanding EU Packets?

[infernalinfernos]

So far my understanding is as follows, but is (probably) not very accurate:
Things that output EU output them in packets of different sizes (32, 64, 128, 512, etc). Different cables can accept different amount of EU in packets/per tick (Copper can accept max 32 packet per tick for example). Every time a deduction in EU is made for travelling in cables it is subtracted from the packet as a whole, so sending large packets over long distances is more efficient than sending EU in smaller packets (Power made in a water mill can be first sent into an MFE then over long distances to make it much more effective). A max of 1 packet is sent every tick. <- Some cases more than 1 packet can be sent per tick

So I know some of this is probably wrong. Can anyone tell me if my understanding so far is correct and which ones are wrong?

 

[atheneftw]

yes, if you feed energy into an mfe and then run cable you will have less loss, however if you generate more than the mfe can output you're better off putting the mfe's in a line, altho that will increase the loss.

 

[ratchet freak]

you can send more packets each tick it's how transformers can handle the throughput (they send 4 for each max packet they receive)

the network ir requester driven, no packet is sent until a machine needs energy, this means you can hook up a MFSU on a LV line as long as no machine requests any power[DOUBLEPOST=1370634149][/DOUBLEPOST]

yes, if you feed energy into an mfe and then run cable you will have less loss, however if you generate more than the mfe can output you're better off putting the mfe's in a line, altho that will increase the loss.

actually putting 2 mfes in parallel will increase throughput on that line as they both can output their packet

 

[atheneftw]

you can send more packets each tick it's how transformers can handle the throughput (they send 4 for each max packet they receive)

the network ir requester driven, no packet is sent until a machine needs energy, this means you can hook up a MFSU on a LV line as long as no machine requests any power[DOUBLEPOST=1370634149][/DOUBLEPOST]
actually putting 2 mfes in parallel will increase throughput on that line as they both can output their packet

yes thats what i said, altho that will double the loss

 

[infernalinfernos]

you can send more packets each tick it's how transformers can handle the throughput (they send 4 for each max packet they receive)

the network ir requester driven, no packet is sent until a machine needs energy, this means you can hook up a MFSU on a LV line as long as no machine requests any power[DOUBLEPOST=1370634149][/DOUBLEPOST]
actually putting 2 mfes in parallel will increase throughput on that line as they both can output their packet

Aha! I knew that more than one packet can be sent per tick, but I just didn't find any examples of it, so I assumed that it was 1 sent per tick.
Thanks all for your comments

 

[ratchet freak]

yes thats what i said, altho that will double the loss

srry I thought inline meant daisychaining which limits the throughput to the smallest energy storage

 

[Zelfana]

Cables can take any number of packets in a tick as long as the packets are not larger than what the cable supports. Machines also can accept pretty much unlimited power as long as it is in packet size they can handle. But output is limited for generators and storage blocks. So if you transform power into smaller packets you will need four parallel storage blocks if you want to store it in lower voltage. But if it is going straight into machines it doesn't matter as they can still accept the correctly sized packets no problem.

If that was confusing you can read this: http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=EU

 

[Adonis0]

Cables can take any number of packets in a tick as long as the packets are not larger than what the cable supports. Machines also can accept pretty much unlimited power as long as it is in packet size they can handle. But output is limited for generators and storage blocks. So if you transform power into smaller packets you will need four parallel storage blocks if you want to store it in lower voltage. But if it is going straight into machines it doesn't matter as they can still accept the correctly sized packets no problem.

If that was confusing you can read this: http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=EU

Just thought I'd give an example of this, before my server restarted recently, in my base I was chugging 16k eu/t down glass fibre cables which had a max packet size of 512 eu/t

 

[ICountFrom0]

"In IC2 electricity is only a buzz word for small magical dwarfs carrying nanobatteries. From every energy source or storage there is one dwarf released every tick. Size of a dwarf is determined by amount of energy they are carrying. Cables are in reality just a tunnels where they run. If a cable or machine don't provide enough space for a dwarf it will get angry and blow up.
However many dwarfs are happy to run alongside each other and will in cooperation carry any amount of energy through a cable. Big dwarf will still prefer to blow up, then to split, but he can split into smaller dwarfs in transformer. Every smaller dwarf which is produced by transformer can go to the same output tunnel.
These useful little creatures are also sometimes nicknamed packets."


http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=EU

 

[Ako_the_Builder]

"In IC2 electricity is only a buzz word for small magical dwarfs carrying nanobatteries. From every energy source or storage there is one dwarf released every tick. Size of a dwarf is determined by amount of energy they are carrying. Cables are in reality just a tunnels where they run. If a cable or machine don't provide enough space for a dwarf it will get angry and blow up.
However many dwarfs are happy to run alongside each other and will in cooperation carry any amount of energy through a cable. Big dwarf will still prefer to blow up, then to split, but he can split into smaller dwarfs in transformer. Every smaller dwarf which is produced by transformer can go to the same output tunnel.
These useful little creatures are also sometimes nicknamed packets."

Heh, the wiki needs a dwarf analogy section

 

[infernalinfernos]

"In IC2 electricity is only a buzz word for small magical dwarfs carrying nanobatteries. From every energy source or storage there is one dwarf released every tick. Size of a dwarf is determined by amount of energy they are carrying. Cables are in reality just a tunnels where they run. If a cable or machine don't provide enough space for a dwarf it will get angry and blow up.
However many dwarfs are happy to run alongside each other and will in cooperation carry any amount of energy through a cable. Big dwarf will still prefer to blow up, then to split, but he can split into smaller dwarfs in transformer. Every smaller dwarf which is produced by transformer can go to the same output tunnel.
These useful little creatures are also sometimes nicknamed packets."


http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=EU

Haha, funny and very educational. This should actually go somewhere on the EU page of the forums