[Tutorial] How To Get Lots Of Redstone Energy (MJ) Early
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it's a lot easier and way easier to build
It would take ages for me to answer the question, "Why" but i hate how MJ (and MJ generation) work in general, So i get frustrated when i have to use an MJ only machine
(one of the things is that there is only one power storage option, The redstone-energy-thing
I just got myself set for all EU and MJ with a Pump in the Nether and a Liquid Tesseract wired to Thermal Generators and Electric Engines.
Takes some time, but it's one of the best and most hands-free ways to get power IMO.
Takes some time, but it's one of the best and most hands-free ways to get power IMO.
Aside from that many regard it as quite cheesy, it's an absolute no-go on servers because pumping lava in the Nether like that causes a lot of light recalculations which are a heavy strain on the server CPU.
Were we talking about strictly multiplayer-compatible energy systems? :/
I think the Chunk Loader would be causing more lag than the light calculations, but even on my craptop it runs just fine. How is it cheesy though?
They tend to go hand-in-hand, but a single one won't likely be a major issue for solo players. It's server-side, and especially server-side where ten different people are doing it, that presents an issue.
Draining hell of its fire is a very Science!-solution, but it's not terribly /elegant/ -- you're less engineering a problem away, and more simply finding a combination of mods where the problem doesn't exist.
Thanks for clearing it up, it makes more sense than calling it just "cheesy".
However, I think the best thing about FTB is that there's multiple ways to approach a problem.
For energy, you could:
- Use the Forestry mod and convert Biofuel into EU
- Use IC2 and set up an array of solar panels
- Use GregTech and feed lava into a Thermal Generator
- Use the Thermal Expansion mod and connect a Magma Crucible to a Magmatic Engine
- Use ExtraBees and breed Refined bees
- etc
Some might be more innovative or time efficient, but there's no "wrong" way to approach a problem.
Did I say that? No. Since you didn't state if this was for server play or solo I wanted to make sure you know. I'm trying to help you and you respond like this? Very mature!
You think wrong. Regarding it being cheesy; that's my personal opinion, as I specifically stated.
Trust me, you start draining the Nether, and you'll feel it, SSP or SMP. Both the Light Calculations and the animation and block updates.
I would suggest, if you are on a craptop, you install Optifine then disable flowing lava animations if you ever want to not crash on entering the nether again after starting up the pump and having some hundred plus flowing blocks lag out your GPU.
Um yeah, I'm not having any problems with my energy setup so I really didn't need you to bash on me.
How is my personal opinion "wrong"?
"Aside from that many regard it as cheesy..."
I'm not seeing the word "personal opinion" here.
I shut it off temporarily because my Iron Tank was getting too full.
Even if it's not the most efficient setup for energy, it is getting me tons of copper and tin that I'm always short of so that's all good.
And another addition to my list of butthurt-people-who-had-their-arguments-defeated as well.
Nice talking to ya!
A statement like 'the chunkloaders will cause more lag than the light calculations' is not a personal opinion, but an attempt at stating a fact. One which is grossly incorrect. Cheesy or not doesn't enter the discussion yet. That was where your incorrect statement was.
You are correct in that he is painting with a rather broad brush and putting words on other people's mouths, however that is an opinion to which he is entitled.
'Cheesy' 'OP' 'IMBA' and other such terms are subjective and relative. Statements concerning how much lag one or another mechanic have are concerning objective and measurable behavior. It would be like trying to have an opinion on the Laws of Gravity.