Tree breeding

[infernalinfernos]

So recently I decided to try out tree breeding just a bit with very limited bees. So far, I have been breeding oaks with birch trees, and the only result I get from the mutated/crossbred leaves with a thaumium grafter is apple oak and silver birch. I think silver lime is essential for further tree breeding, but so far, many leaves later, all I got were the silver birch and apple oak. Am I doing something wrong? Do I need specific bees, biome, or do I need to be more patient? Currently, I have about 4 apiaries with common/forest/meadow/cultivated/other random bees.
And also, pollination on bees is the speed it breeds trees, right?

 

[Ako_the_Builder]

from memory so might be wrong: cut down all your vanilla trees, plant the apple oak and silver birch saplings, when they grow you'll get silver lime saplings from the mutated leaves.

Bee bit sounds fine you just need bees nearby and pollination speed should help but isn't essential.

 

[Maldroth]

Biome largely doesn't matter unless you are trying to get certain trees like the Willow and Desert Acadia tree. I would get a Spruce Pine and throw it in there as well to get some of those going.

Any bees will do but those that have a higher Pollination trait will make your mutated leaves show up much much faster. Also this process does take a while so I found it is best to do tree breeding with your bee breeding at the same time. That way both are progressing and you are waiting around less.

 

[infernalinfernos]

from memory so might be wrong: cut down all your vanilla trees, plant the apple oak and silver birch saplings, when they grow you'll get silver lime saplings from the mutated leaves.

Bee bit sounds fine you just need bees nearby and pollination speed should help but isn't essential.

It says on the wiki that ts just normal oak and birch, but I'm gonna try this anyways. I'm getting a little desperate

 

[ThemsAllTook]

Keep doing what you're doing and you should get lime eventually. According to my cheat sheet, it's a 15% chance, but it's always possible to have an unlucky streak and not get when you want.

Tree breeding takes a lot of patience. I find it's more productive to leave bees to do their thing for a several Minecraft days (ideally automated) before coming back to check on your leaves, since you'll be hunting around for a while to find the one leaf that's a different color if you're checking it too often. Willow and Sipiri trees require specific biomes (swamp and jungle respectively), but to my knowledge the others mutate the same way everywhere. The pollination range might surprise you, so you can plant quite a lot of trees around and have more potential for cross-breeding. Just make sure you don't have other tree types in the area than the ones you're specifically trying to breed, and get all of the old leaves out of there before planting new trees.

 

[Phantom27]

Does anybody know if there is a type of tree that has a high/higher/highest Yield trait?

I've checked most of my saplings and the best Yield I could find was Normal on a Sweet Chestnut tree. Is there anything better than that?

 

[fergcraft]

etho was messing around with tree breeding and he did manage to create a higher yield tree. Can't remember off hand what he used

 

[Phantom27]

etho was messing around with tree breeding and he did manage to create a higher yield tree. Can't remember off hand what he used

Are you sure? He did get a Hill Cherry sapling with Highest Sappiness, but I don't remember him getting anything with better Yield than Normal...

 

[MilConDoin]

Does anybody know if there is a type of tree that has a high/higher/highest Yield trait?
I've checked most of my saplings and the best Yield I could find was Normal on a Sweet Chestnut tree. Is there anything better than that?

Cherry, Walnut and Chestnut have the best yields in Forestry 2.0.0.11
From the changelog of Forestry 2.2.2.1: (for MC 1.5.2)
- Changed: Increased the default yield on some tree species. Made high yield attainable.

Spoiler

This yield can be found on the Plum.

 

[Brandon Kinter]

I had regular, vanilla birch and oak trees breeding with common/ cultivated bees in a plains biome, and I have gone through about 50 Princess/Drone cycles without even getting a single mutated leaf. So then I built a Treealyzer and I ran each of the saplings through it making it the Forestry version, and I still have not had any luck with getting even a single mutated leaf after another about 50 Princess/Drone cycles. My bees keep upgrading their stats but I really want the different color woods so that i can build cool things. PLease help. I also ran some Spruce saplings through the Treealyzer, so now I am pollenating with 3 Silver Birch Trees, 3 Apple Oak Trees, and 3 Red Spruce trees!

 

[Bickers]

I had regular, vanilla birch and oak trees breeding with common/ cultivated bees in a plains biome, and I have gone through about 50 Princess/Drone cycles without even getting a single mutated leaf. So then I built a Treealyzer and I ran each of the saplings through it making it the Forestry version, and I still have not had any luck with getting even a single mutated leaf after another about 50 Princess/Drone cycles. My bees keep upgrading their stats but I really want the different color woods so that i can build cool things. PLease help. I also ran some Spruce saplings through the Treealyzer, so now I am pollenating with 3 Silver Birch Trees, 3 Apple Oak Trees, and 3 Red Spruce trees!

what pack you useing if its a 1.5.2 you need to use spectacles to even see mutated leaf blocks

 

[LittleMike]

I had regular, vanilla birch and oak trees breeding with common/ cultivated bees in a plains biome, and I have gone through about 50 Princess/Drone cycles without even getting a single mutated leaf. So then I built a Treealyzer and I ran each of the saplings through it making it the Forestry version, and I still have not had any luck with getting even a single mutated leaf after another about 50 Princess/Drone cycles. My bees keep upgrading their stats but I really want the different color woods so that i can build cool things. PLease help. I also ran some Spruce saplings through the Treealyzer, so now I am pollenating with 3 Silver Birch Trees, 3 Apple Oak Trees, and 3 Red Spruce trees!

Also keep in mind that there is a block update bug in certain versions that will prevent you from seeing the mutated leaves. You have to leave the chunk and come back. Make sure you hit the leaves with a grafter to get a 100% sapling drop rate.

 

[MilConDoin]

And third: remember that you need bees with a usable flower trait. Not every type of flower-preference will mutate leaf blocks. http://mc.nessirojgaming.eu/bees/index.php?title=Flowers shows at the top which flower types can pollinate (at least for MC 1.4.7. Page will update soon, when my admin has added a certain extension to the wiki).

 

[Brandon Kinter]

Haha thanks I was using 1.5.2 and had absolutely no idea that there were spectacles! Nearly every single one of my bees was pollenated.