[Tinkers Construct] How to start out?

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Zerro

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Greetings,

Just started an Unleashed server and I wanted to jump right into Tinkers Construct by making an Iron Pick but it looks like the mod has changed and now requires a smeltery to be able to make an Iron Pick. :(

So I am curious as to how you people go about progressing through TC from the start. Should I try to go for a Smeltry & TC Iron Pick to start or should I just use vanilla iron tools/equips until I get better ores to use in the smeltry?

Any tips on what ores to use for each piece of a tool or just keep everything the same (ie: iron for all 3 pick pieces)

Thanks for the suggestions
 

namae

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I play with gregtech with absurdly complicated recipes even for basic metal tools and best thing in that case was to use quartz pickaxe. Otherwise stick with vanilla tools, smeltery requires significant amount of shovel and axe work to get running, unless you find a village with one.
 

PeggleFrank

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Thaumium tools are quite durable and you don't need to make them in a smeltery. Of course, it requires some basic TC3 infrastructure to do, but otherwise it's a decent material until you can get the metal to make a smeltery.
 

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The smeltery is easy to build. All you need is sand, gravel and clay, very basic building materials. So there's no point in delaying that.
 

PeggleFrank

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The smeltery is easy to build. All you need is sand, gravel and clay, very basic building materials. So there's no point in delaying that.

And it does precisely nothing until you get a mass amount of metal for the casts. It requires even more if you want to make tier 2 tools with your metal parts.


36 iron and some aluminum brass might not seem like much, but when you're just starting out it can be a bit challenging to accumulate that amount of resources.
 

Hydra

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And it does precisely nothing until you get a mass amount of metal for the casts. It requires even more if you want to make tier 2 tools with your metal parts.

36 iron and some aluminum brass might not seem like much, but when you're just starting out it can be a bit challenging to accumulate that amount of resources.

Don't forget that it does the same doubling you get from other stuff, so it's a nice investment that does not require anything 'rare' such as gold. I had more that enough after my first caving session in my current build. The biggest challenge was the clay; no shallow water nearby :)
 

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I was making and enchanting force tools until I got around to making the TiC stuff for the first time.
Force ingots are easy to make.

But really, with all the gravel ores around it shouldn't be too hard to come up with everything you need to get started fairly quickly.
 

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Here's my suggestion:

Easy Mode: Just go with a regular wooden pick to get some cobble and the stations. Make a pick with stone head, wooden handle, and wooden binding. Start mining some until you get some iron. Then make your smeltry, and proceed from there. Bring your table with you and you can repair on the fly.
 

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I'm curious, what are the best layers to search for aluminum?

on the surface actually.
aluminum gravel ore is not all that uncommon to find on the surface, and you only need a few pieces to get some aluminum brass to get your first casts.
also. go to those flying slime islands and get some slime trees. they can be used to make slime handles. thus doubling the number of uses on your tools before they need repairs. and in a pinch, a slime pick can break obsidian if you are very very patient. (it's easier to cast a portal with the help of a couple of buckets, so don't mine obsidian until you got your first decent pick).

the unleashed pack has an easy mode steel that uses coal and iron to make steel dust that smelts into 2 steel ingots in a furnace. re-smelt those in the smeltery to make steel tools as your first metal ones. (they are just as good as the alumite ones, so no point in going alumite over steel tbh). if you don't want to do easy mode steel, then getting a blast furnace can be done without finding a nether fortress by looking for the glowing thaumcraft flowers in any desert. you need 9 to make your first RC blast furnace. the bricks can be made by cooking netherrack. thus allowing you to only do a fairly basic trip into the nether without needing to suit up too heavily for exploring the nether. just pop in and start digging into the nearest netherrack wall.

my first metal pick is usually a steel head, with a paper binding and a green slime rod. all of these materials are fairly easy to get.
protip for getting up to a slime island. make scaffolds from ic2. they act as a ladder as well as a wall, and you can build them up from below with left clicks on the bottom scaffolding block. do look out for the slimy water pool. it acts as a blue slime spawner, so bring something to fill it in unless you enjoy being pushed around by slimes.
 
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KhrFreak

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i really like starting out with flint and bone tools, they work reasonably well and are cheap as all heck to repair
 
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Zerro

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Okay I'm having a problem now:

I built a Smeltery and made some Blank Casts but I can't form them into patterns on the Stencil Table. Pressing 'Next/Previous Pattern' doesn't seem to do anything.

Is something broken or did I just miss a step?
 

Alex_hawks

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You need to go watch the newer spotlight...
Pour a Aluminum Brass or gold around the par that you want to make a cast of.
 

Mahoka

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What I'm about to write is the progression you'd use if you wanted to exclusively use Tinker's Construct- you don't actually even need any vanilla tools at all (though I suggest starting out with a vanilla set of stone tools, it's much easier).

1. Punch trees
2. Create patterns and use those and your wood to make a stencil table, part builder, pattern chest, tool station, and a vanilla crafting table. Refer to the yellow book.
3. Place blank patterns in the stencil table and make patterns for a basic tool set: Pickaxe head, tool binding, shovel head, axe head, sword blade, wide guard, and tool rod. Place them in the pattern chest, which should be adjacent to your part builder.
4. Use some wood planks or sticks at the part builder to get the parts for a pickaxe. Build a completely wooden pickaxe (you could also use flint, bone or cactus for the head if you happened across them). Refer to the red book here.
5. Mine some cobblestone. Build a full tool set with cobblestone heads. Try other materials for the handles and a sword blade. Cobblestone isn't optimal for them.
6. Go on a mining trip. On your shopping list is clay balls, gravel, and sand. You'll need about 2 stacks of each. Stash any metal ores for now.
7. Craft grout with your clay, sand, and gravel. Cook it into seared bricks. Create the parts for a smeltery, and build it. Refer to the black book.
8. Time for another mining trip. This time you need to find lava and either gold, or copper and aluminum.
9. Fill your smeltery's lava tank and smelt either gold or aluminum brass alloy (recipe in the books).
10. While your metal smelts, go to your part builder and make a pickaxe head of any material.
11. Place the pickaxe head on the casting table and pour molten gold or brass over it to make a mold of a pickaxe head.
12. If you have any remaining molten metal in the smeltery, make an ingot cast by pouring gold/brass over a metal ingot, then place that cast on the casting table and pour out the remainder into ingots.
13. Melt down some iron in your smeltery and pour it into the pickaxe head. Complete your pickaxe with whatever handle material you prefer.
14. Go mining again. Now you can pick up diamond, emerald, redstone, gold, and obsidian. You can use these and some other materials to modify your tool (refer to the red book).
15. Once you have enough metal, make 4 iron blocks. You can do this by making ingots and crafting those, or by pouring 9 iron ingots worth of metal into a casting basin.
16. Upgrade your tool station into a tool forge. This grants access to the special tools and weapons.
17. Find materials to smelt alumite alloy and make a pickaxe or hammer with an alumite head.
18. Visit the nether. Your alumite tool can harvest cobalt and ardite, the top tier of metals together with their alloy, manyullyn.

That's it. Now, some tips:
-Once you have your first TC cobblestone pickaxe, make an extra tool station and carry it around on mining trips. Repair on the fly!
-In FTB, bronze makes a nice alternative to iron, and steel is an alternative to alumite.
-All non-metal parts need to be made at the part builder using patterns. All metal/obsidian parts need to be made at the casting table using casts. Except Thaumium. Why? It's magical.
-Villages sometimes have smelteries and partially/fully stocked tool rooms!
-each material has a mining level, mining speed, damage, durability, handle modifier, and material ability. Mining level, mining speed, damage and durability are only used if the material is in the head or blade of the item (including large plates on headpeices). Handle modifier multiplies the durability of the item and only applies when the material is in the handle. Material abilities always apply (meaning sword hilts and tool bindings are excellent places to put materials with a cool material ability, but weak attributes, as none of the other stats will be used).
-in general, metal makes good heads/blades. Slime and metal, and wood make good handles. Paper, cactus, and obsidian are best put on bindings and hilts for their material abilities.
 

Hydra

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Okay I'm having a problem now:

I built a Smeltery and made some Blank Casts but I can't form them into patterns on the Stencil Table. Pressing 'Next/Previous Pattern' doesn't seem to do anything.

Is something broken or did I just miss a step?


I got confused about this too because it changed. To make a cast for for example a pickaxe head, you first need to make a stone pickaxe (the normal way, with the wooden stencils). Then you need to place that pickaxe head on a casting table and then pour the cast. You then end up with a pickaxe head cast. You can do the same for the other parts.

So basically all the metals (and some stuff like obsidian) you now need to cast. The rest can be made with the wooden stencils.

As far as I know the blank casts don't have any use. You can just toss them back into the smeltery to smelt them again though.

Tip: There's a very easy recipe for steel in unleashed; you can look it up in NEI but you can make 1 steel dust from 1 iron + 4 coal. IIRC 1 dust smelts into 2 steel. Steel is a really wonderful early material to make tools with.
 

Azzanine

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Umm... Did you not find that little beige colored book in your inventory? I'd say read that but people here have given you the answers already.

My process is to start out with only one vanilla wood pick, gather stone till it breaks then use that stone to build a full compliment of stone TiC tools; Pick, Shovel, Hatchet, Sword. Wood handles and binding with stone heads (stone handles gimp the durability and provide no other benefit other then stone bound which will be on your head).
I'll build my shelter either before or after, this depends on difficulty.
Then I mine Till I have 36 of a certain metal any of the standard metals to get ready for the upgraded tool table (you need 4 metal blocks of either tin, copper, bronze or iron you might be able to use more then that).
I then make a stone Excavator, hammer and lumber axe and mine and deforest my way to mid game and start to make some tech and complete a smeltery to make metal upgrades.

You know with TiC you don't really need to rush all the way to metal tools. Stone tools can serve you quite well for a good while if you augment them with moss which in mods usually have their special easy recipes.
 

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You know with TiC you don't really need to rush all the way to metal tools. Stone tools can serve you quite well for a good while if you augment them with moss which in mods usually have their special easy recipes.


Sure, but steel can mine pretty much anything. Stone can't. If you can make a steel pickaxe head + slime rod + paper binding you have a tool that can last you a lifetime. I would personally put moss + redstone + lapis + the smelting upgrade on it. Very nice early mining tool.
 

Azzanine

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Sure, but steel can mine pretty much anything. Stone can't. If you can make a steel pickaxe head + slime rod + paper binding you have a tool that can last you a lifetime. I would personally put moss + redstone + lapis + the smelting upgrade on it. Very nice early mining tool.

That's exactly my usual configuration I tend to op out of auto smelt though at least for a standard tool. Of course I don't stick to stone tools forever.
But I will use the stone tools to gather a good amount of copper, tin and iron along with the aluminum ore that comes with that. Once I have enough for one bar of Aluminium Brass I'll make a metal pick for gold and diamond level stuff.
 
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Blank casts are used in making drawbridges.

I tend to use creepers to skip over wooden tools. Let them blow, then pick up the stone they cause to drop. I use that to start mining iron.
 
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Do note that, unless you get lucky and find a bucket somewhere, you'll have to smelt three iron to make a bucket to power a smelter. Other than that you don't need any metal before you can start doubling your metal. You'll just need a lot of charcoal or coal to make a smelter.
 
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