Time Torches?

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lavieen

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Io I've been looking on the forums the other day and I keep on hearing about these time torches. So I got them and man, THEY ARE OP. A normal quarry goes 6 times the speed of what it used to be and this?

It just doesn't make sense. And imagine this except with time torches.

I'm not saying they should be removed, but with the chickenbones mod it's just way too OP. But that's just my opinion. What's your opinion on this?
 

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Io I've been looking on the forums the other day and I keep on hearing about these time torches. So I got them and man, THEY ARE OP. A normal quarry goes 6 times the speed of what it used to be and this?

It just doesn't make sense. And imagine this except with time torches.

I'm not saying they should be removed, but with the chickenbones mod it's just way too OP. But that's just my opinion. What's your opinion on this?

timetorches for Dartcraft itself isn't unbalanced at all, but if you combine them with other mods, they can become unbalanced
but it's pretty much impossible for a mod to both be balanced as a standalone mod and be balanced with every other minecraft mod out there
 

lavieen

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Well, I suppose so. I actually like it for some reasons, such as the automatic farms. It takes so long to let it grow on its own, but with the torches, you never run out food!:D
 

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timetorches for Dartcraft itself isn't unbalanced at all, but if you combine them with other mods, they can become unbalanced

Nailed it. Dartcraft might be fun, but I haven't used it since its initial releases because it doesn't play nice with other mods for my style of gaming.
 

Ommina

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Got me, dude. By the way, anyone know what the name of the little ditty is in Ako's video (the first one) in the OP? It...amuses me.

I believe that is "Jaunty Gumption" by Kevin MacLeod over at incompetech.com --- the trilling piccolo coupled with coupled with the recurring... something musical... is a dead giveaway.

(OK, OK. It was listed in the "About" for the video.)
 

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I wouldn't call it OP at all.

The thing with a time torch is that it just speeds things up, and does nothing else. This means that you can achieve the exact same effects of a time torch by increasing the number of bees, or the number of planted crops, or the number of quarries running simultaneously, etc and so on.
 

lavieen

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soooooooo what?

Well, Because it doesn't mix well with most mods, it's pointless to include it in modpacks, unless it's like MadPack or a pack designed to be really easy.
BTW, I personally like it when I include it in complex machines, to speed things up.[DOUBLEPOST=1409209377][/DOUBLEPOST]
I wouldn't call it OP at all.

The thing with a time torch is that it just speeds things up, and does nothing else. This means that you can achieve the exact same effects of a time torch by increasing the number of bees, or the number of planted crops, or the number of quarries running simultaneously, etc and so on.

Well, your mostly right. But for mods like the ChickenBones mod http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum...he-chicken-bones-mod-helps-you-pick-up-chicks, a "duplication" mod. But mostly, yes it's true.
 

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Well, Because it doesn't mix well with most mods, it's pointless to include it in modpacks, unless it's like MadPack or a pack designed to be really easy.
BTW, I personally like it when I include it in complex machines, to speed things up.

if we take into account the quantity of mods time torches work with, i'd say it mixes quite well.
easy mod packs you say? if time investment means hard for you i'd rather not comment on this...

P.S. i kinda see where this thread is gonna go if we don't stop.... or we can also mention one ****tech mod to really get the flame burning. :D

edit. dammit grammar.
 
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lavieen

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if we take into account the quantity of mods time torches work with, i'd say it mixes quite well.
easy mod packs you say? if time investment means hard for you i'd rather not comment on this...

P.S. i kinda see when this thread is gonna go if don't stop.... or we can also mention one ****tech mod to really get the flame burning. :D

Well, I suppose so.
 

RavynousHunter

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Oh, and what's the most efficient way for ore production in any mod?

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Eeh, I still feel like answering it, because why not? The two current best choices of which I know are either the RotaryCraft Extractor or a full-blown Mekanism ore processing line, both of which offer up to 5 ingots to the ore.

RotaryCraft's Extractor is governed by chance, so the RNG may hate you and only give you 1x for every stage, but it also gives you a chance at extra dusts from your ore, like getting aluminum powder from your iron ore or the odd gold flake from your copper, so you could think of it as a beefier version of TE's pulverizer. It also has the advantage of speed scalability, if you play smart and learn to use gearboxes. The increase in processing speed is a function of the speed (in rad/s) put into the extractor, and achieving both enough torque (512 Nm) and speed (8,192 rad/s) to run all four stages in one machine can be a tad bothersome, but if you're a bit clever and have a good lube setup going, you can easily power all stages in one go before you get to jet fuel production.

While Mekanism isn't as scalable or compact as RotaryCraft, it can take advantage of the mod's factory blocks, which have multiple (3, 5, or 7, depending on tier, methinks) inputs and outputs for certain stages of the ore processing line. Another advantage is that its modular: if you don't have all the components for a Tier IV (5x ingots) setup, but enough for a Tier II (3x ingots), you can just build the Tier II and tack the other two stages in later on when you've got the resources. Mekanism's ore processing can also take advantage of the machines' automation features, which means you need fewer item/fluid transport pipes going about the place, which can be good for neat freaks and make overall automation much simpler. It also helps that, compared to RoC, Mek's power generation is far simpler and more susceptible to the brute-force method of power gen.
 
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Time torches are fun. Video games are fun. A fun item in a fun game equals fun.

Processing and system load-wise, they may not be a good idea for servers with irresponsible or immature players. It could be disastrous if left running on any automated system. But for careful people on a server they can be fun.

Also they're awesome for single player. You can compress time frames. The time your farms would be harvesting on a server while you sleep, can be spedn up with a time torch.

Personally I don't care for the term 'OP'. Its subjective and is usually stated as a fact instead of opinion. This is what leads to flame wars since people think that a subjective opinion should be treated as a fact.
 
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I do remember in one of BlueDarts (the maker of DartCraft) videos that he says Dartcraft main focus isn't tech, or magic, or anything like that, its fun. It's why he has magic, and machines, and stupid thing like feces and all that stuff, it's just supposed to be fun. And Yeah for SP Time torches are wonderful because you don't have your farms and stuff running over night while other people are on there server or something. Also Time Torches are really only broken when next to like a Solar Panel, otherwise your machines will burn through your energy at the same rate, just way faster, oh, and a single time torch takes 4 pieces of gold, early game that isn't always easy to find, or mass harvest, so it pretty much makes the time torch a convenience thing.
 

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Time torches are fun. Video games are fun. A fun item in a fun game equals fun.

Processing and system load-wise, they may not be a good idea for servers with irresponsible or immature players. It could be disastrous if left running on any automated system. But for careful people on a server they can be fun.

Also they're awesome for single player. You can compress time frames. The time your farms would be harvesting on a server while you sleep, can be spedn up with a time torch.

Yeah, it can be very !fun! for the server hosts/owners. :p
 

lavieen

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Hmmm... maybe time torches aren't that op as i thought it would be, but does anyone know the radius of the torches?
 

RavynousHunter

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I believe their active radius is configurable, but the default, if I remember correctly, is 4 meters centered around the torch itself. Whether that's a square, circle, cube, or sphere is unknown...least, to me.
 

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I do remember in one of BlueDarts (the maker of DartCraft) videos that he says Dartcraft main focus isn't tech, or magic, or anything like that, its fun. It's why he has magic, and machines, and stupid thing like feces and all that stuff, it's just supposed to be fun. And Yeah for SP Time torches are wonderful because you don't have your farms and stuff running over night while other people are on there server or something. Also Time Torches are really only broken when next to like a Solar Panel manufactured by solar panels manufacturer otherwise your machines will burn through your energy at the same rate, just way faster, oh, and a single time torch takes 4 pieces of gold, early game that isn't always easy to find, or mass harvest, so it pretty much makes the time torch a convenience thing.
Well it was a video full of fun.. I have collected some real crazy videos and will share them out if possible..
 
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