Those ores I just never seem to find...

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Anhrak

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So... yeah. I'm a mining addict in Minecraft, there's not a single thing I've missed as long I am underground.

However, there are those particulair ores that I just never seem to be able to find... which makes me wonder why they are even in the game's database then. Those are the following ores:

- Copper [forestry + IC2 edition]
- Firestone ore
- Cobalt gravel ore
- Shiny ore
- Mana-infused ore
- Steel ore
- Iridium ore
- Dimensional Shard ore
- Nether Platinum ore
- Nether Nikolite ore [this seems to be a remnant from an old FTB Ultimate-pack mod]
- Nether Iridium
- Nether Osmium
- Nether Titanium
- Nether Mithril
- Nether Adamantium
- Nether Rutile
- Nether Tungsten [also a remnant from the same mod as Nikolite ore]
- Nether Tennantite
- Nether Magnesium

Now understandably many of the nether ores are just placeholders for other mods it could work with together, the surface ores are not. [Nether] Iridium, Mana-Infused and Shiny are examples of ore that should be obtainable... yet I've never seen a single one yet.
 

gold49

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The IC2/forestry copper is most likely turned off in world gen, as most packs on FTB use thermal expansion or other ores for generation. Firestone ore is only found at the bottom of lava lakes in the nether, and makes solid full railcraft boilers heat up insanely fast once you go through the five big steps in setting it up. shiny and mana ore should be generating, although if you are in chunks that were made before thermal expansion was in the pack you will not find them. Steel ore...do not know that one, may be as you say a placeholder for something. Iridium ore is stupid rare last I checked(although for all I know it doesn't even generate anymore I'm so out of date), like one ever 16 chunks or something. Dim shards I do not know either, and the for the nether ores you are correct in thinking they are just placeholders for other mods, also the FTB Ultimate mod you are thinking of is Redpower 2, although other mods may use those ore now, hence why they are still there
 

gold49

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Platinum is very rare in the nether, and I don't know what the exact level shiny is on to begin with and now lots of packs are doing custom ore gen levels so...you may want to just check the thermal expansion/cofh core configs for the world gen level and/or google what the ore gen is in your pack. Sorry I can't help anymore past that
 

Anhrak

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How can I read into those configs? Where can I find the configs that I need to read, and what should I be looking for?
 

gold49

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All of this said if this is your first time dealing with configs the google search may just be easier, so keep that in mind as while this is by no means complicated it can be confusing at first.
Assuming you are using FTB launcher, go to the file where your pack is stored (if you do not know where that is just go to options on the launcher and search what is next to install folder in windows search, for me it was c:/ftb), open the file with the name of your pack under there (it may be in caps, mine was anyway), then click on the minecraft folder in that file(not instMods or any of that, just minecraft). Then there will be a folder called config and alot of other folders, open just the config file and find the file with the a similar or the same name of the mod you are looking for (in this case it is either cofh/thermal expansion). You can open the file with anything that can edit text, with the most basic being notepad. You may see alot of symbols/numbers/terms you may not fully understand if you do not know anything about programming (even if you do it still may not fully make sense if you are like me). Look for something along the lines of " *insert ore you are looking for here* Ore generation levels =" with the numbers after which may say what level they are on. If that is not there either the ore generation is controled by another mod that I do not know of or I told you something wrong
 

Anhrak

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This is weird. I'm looking at the configs, but these ores are not mentionned AT ALL. In none of the configs it says to spawn Platinum, Shiny ore nor Mana-infused ore.
 

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This is weird. I'm looking at the configs, but these ores are not mentionned AT ALL. In none of the configs it says to spawn Platinum, Shiny ore nor Mana-infused ore.
Normally in the FTB packs the COFH oregen suppresses all oregen from all mods(afaik) and then custom spawns them in according to the modpack devs wishes. Many ores are not set to spawn at all due to balance concerns and inter-mod problems.
 
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Anhrak

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Then how should one obtain Platinum / Shiny ore then?! This ore has turned unobtainable.
 

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Then how should one obtain Platinum / Shiny ore then?! This ore has turned unobtainable.
You can get platinum as a rare byproduct of Ferrous ore in a pulverizer, or from Ferrous ore and cinnabar in an induction smelter.
 

rhn

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Then how should one obtain Platinum / Shiny ore then?! This ore has turned unobtainable.
You can get platinum as a rare byproduct of Ferrous ore in a pulverizer, or from Ferrous ore and cinnabar in an induction smelter.
Or Platinum as bonus product of many GT ore processing processes. There is also a Platinum Bee(might require GT in the pack).
 

Inaeo

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NEI is your answer to find these ores, though as stated above, the ore itself may not actually spawn due to COFH oregen and other world generation mods/configs. In Infinity, a NEI pulgin creates a page in the recipe lookup for ores that tell you how rare and at what levels they spawn.
 

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- Copper [forestry + IC2 edition] Use the Thermal Expansion ore and spawns higher up
- Firestone ore Find in lava in the nether
- Cobalt gravel ore Doesn't exist/extremly rare if it does as I've never seen it, mine cobalt in the nether
- Shiny ore Doesn't exist, shiny dust is a byproduct of processing ferrous
- Steel ore Doesn't exist, make with induction smelter/blast furnace/alloy smelter
- Iridium ore Doesn't exist, make with UU matter
 

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With alot of these (Shiny ore in particualr) it depends on how oregen is set up. For instance in most packs I've come across Shiny ore is non-existant, but in DW20, it spawns as part of ferrous ore veins (rarely). The same goes for mana-infused ore, except since the mana-infused ore is completely useless to my knowledge, it isn't spawned in any pack I know of.

Iridium Ore spawns with Gregtech, or with an IC2 Addon i do not remeber the name of. In vanilla IC2, you are intended to find your first iridium as dungeon loot, then replicate all you need with UU-Matter. Steel ore is likely a placeholder ore created by AOBD, although you can find Nether Pig Iron Ore in the Nether with Nether Ores, which is pretty much Nether Steel Ore.

While on the subject of Nether Ores, they only are set to generate if they find an equivelent ingot (or ore) that it can represent. For example, you won't find Nether Tungstun or Nether Nikolite unless there a mod that adds Tungstun or Nikolite in the Overworld. That's the general rule of thumb.
 

rhn

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Oh another thing. Some of these ores might be in some of the mods as a fall back contingency if their dependency mods are not present. Like if a mod depends on RC etc. to make steel, but those mods are not in the pack, then they might enable the spawn of Steel ore to enable you to still play the mod. But if the mods are present it suppresses the steel ore as the notion of "steel ore" is completely nuts :p
 

Iluvalar

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Firestone can be found under lava in the neither

shiny/platinum ore can be found very rarely under level 25. Dont quote me on this. you can also obtain dust by pulverizing something else.

Mana infused ore are produced by mfr laser drill. not sure if you can find them.

If you have botania, a loonium could fetch you a little bit of iridium. I dont think it spawn anywhere.

For the remaining I don't know since it's metalurgy ores and I tend to play direwolf20 right now.
 

xTordX

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Ermm... I see lots of peeps say weird things about platinum/shiny/mana infused.
It's part of thermal expansion (or possibly Foundation) and it doesen't have a use yet but it's still there.
 

DriftinFool

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How can I read into those configs? Where can I find the configs that I need to read, and what should I be looking for?
Infinity has an interesting feature built into NEI. If you go to an ore in NEI and click R(the recipe button), it brings up a graph which shows what Y levels the ore spawns between so they are easier to find. Several of the ores you mentioned aren't actually generated, but are added by AOBD. Others are just super rare or only in certain dimensions. For example, Dimensional shard ore is only available in RFTools dimensions and osmium ore is only available with Mekanism. Firestone ore is only found under lava in the nether. Steel ore comes from Nether pig iron ore.
 

skruis

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There's a line in the config\powercrystals\netherores\common.cfg config:

# If true, will spawn nether ores regardless of if a furnace or macerator recipe was found. If false, at least one of those two must be found to spawn the ore.
B:ForceOreSpawn=true

I believe that's set to 'false' by default and I believe in 1.0.1 (No idea if it changed), I wasn't able to find a recipe for steel so that lead me to believe that the ore wasn't generated (I had spent hours searching for steel). I set it to true (and I disabled Hellfish because I hate them) and then after a few minutes in the Nether, I was able to find steel. As far as Iridium goes, I've been looking for that and the quickest path to Iridium, for me, was Runic Dungeons. That being said, I have found 1 Iridium in the Nether after an hour or so of searching and instead of spending 'my' time looking for it, I'm just quarrying the nether to collect enough.
 

Griffinbh

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The same goes for mana-infused ore, except since the mana-infused ore is completely useless to my knowledge, it isn't spawned in any pack I know of.

Ermm... I see lots of peeps say weird things about platinum/shiny/mana infused.
It's part of thermal expansion (or possibly Foundation) and it doesen't have a use yet but it's still there.

Platinum and shiny ore are the same they are used to make endurim ingots used in resonant items and tesseracts. Mana infused ingots are used in Automagy to make botania related items.