The hypothetical mod pack permission database

[RealSketch]

HTML first though, that gives people the idea of how coding works.

 

[systemv]

Let's see if I can remember..

It was BASIC in 1983, then I went straight to 6502 assembler and C
Then 680x0 assembly, more C.
From C to Bourne shell (/bin/sh) and then Perl

HTML was picked up in 1994 when I saw the Sunergy broadcast with John Gage and Marc Andreessen showing off Mosaic.

#Marc Andreessen did a live demonstration of Mosaic. Andreessen is
the creator and chief architect of Mosaic, the application which is
sweeping the Internet and, as John Gage described, is "the first
civilized way to read and write across the Internet". During the
demonstration Marc and Geoff Baehr looked at a server the White
House and MIT are in the process of putting up, then on to an
on-line bookstore in Palo Alto, California. They then looked at
the City of Palo Alto's information which included listings for
city government, city council, restaurants, etc. Marc talked about
the developing and creating of Mosaic and his ideas for improving
future versions. A brief related discussion of security and firewalls,
followed. He also addressed multimedia capabilities across platforms
as it relates to Mosaic. The number of accesses via Mosaic is
increasing rapidly, on a daily basis.

 

[ShneekeyTheLost]

I am thrilled by CoFH's work. I really am.. So, take this with a dose of good humor --

I am not singling them out because I dig their work, but I just happen to stumble on this a few minutes ago (searching for some code examples). This is the sort of license aka (DBAJ License )that makes me want to laugh.

GPL would be just fine here. The code would STILL be copyrighted. The user has to maintain the GPL in derived works. They never lose the copyright, and the carry-forward GPL license virtually makes it impossible for anyone to reasonably assume the derived work is not based on CoFH's effort.

@ShneekeyTheLost -- No one really maintained the CDDB database. The thing was self-repairing and grew on it's own. Same here. If a mod-dev wants to play the game, they do so on their own time. If a mod-pack builder wants to inquire, they do so on their own time. The code doesn't scare me, what does is the emotional resistance. (It's part of the reason why I go rogue with my own Launcher). I do think you're absolutely right about being reviled.

ps.
You're allowed to re-post no more than 50% of this post because this post is covered by the DBAJ License. ;-)

pps.
Someone lock the thread before we have a thermonuclear meltdown.

Wait a sec... in the link you just provided, it explicitly states:

You CANNOT
-Redistribute this in its entirety as source or compiled code.

But on the CoFH website, it has a different license listed here. Which explicitly gives permission to redistribute in mod packs.

If they are now restricting redistribution rights, then it pretty much kills being able to be included in most mod packs. If that's what CoFH does... well, that's absolutely and completely their right. But I'll never include any CoFH mods in any mod pack I create, since they clearly don't want me to.

 

[systemv]

"That cab has a dent in it."

 

[Azzanine]

Wait a sec... in the link you just provided, it explicitly states:

You CANNOT
-Redistribute this in its entirety as source or compiled code.

But on the CoFH website, it has a different license listed here. Which explicitly gives permission to redistribute in mod packs.

If they are now restricting redistribution rights, then it pretty much kills being able to be included in most mod packs. If that's what CoFH does... well, that's absolutely and completely their right. But I'll never include any CoFH mods in any mod pack I create, since they clearly don't want me to.

I'm reading that line as "ONLY DL it from ME!" You know you don't HAVE to be the source of the download to be considered a pack, ATL has mod packs but the launcher DL's each mod from the preferred source.
I bet modders really want their mod in your pack so long as you DL it from them unadulterated, either as a quality control assurance, to preserve an ad revenue stream or both.
The thing that makes a mod pack a mod pack is the config that makes it all work not the mod folder. It's kind of a Lincolns axe deal but if I was to use FTB's mod list and manually download each one and launch it in say MultiMC am I really playing the FTB pack or something that's very much like it?

To reiterate I think the permissions are a case of "Only download my stuff from me" or "I will let you upload my stuff if you ask nicely and play by the rules". Not a "You are not allowed to use my mod" becasue that would be the epitome of fucking stupid.

 

[Jadedcat]

The forum staff has already stated we abide by licenses out of respect for authors and not to discuss the reasons behind licenses on the forums. It always starts out well-intentioned and ends in people yelling at others. Its an interesting topic, but discuss it elsewhere.