The energy tesseract

[Guswut]

Do redstone conduit pipes prevent explosions in any way?

Yes, redstone conduit will always demand energy from engines so engines will never explode/overheat, and they themselves will never explode if they have too much energy.

I know they force energy to travel in one direction (from orange to blue?) but beyond that, what are their advantages?

They don't explode. It's like playing in a world where mob griefing is enabled versus where it is disabled. So, do you want your creepers to blow your stuff up, or not?

Besides that, they have a flat energy loss of 5%, so in most cases they are better suited to the purpose. In some cases, you'd lose more energy through them than you'd lose with conductive piping, but when you factor in needing to design the system to not explode, it is easier to just go with the redstone conduits.

Oh and it has somewhat stabilised itself. But if conduits will prevent this from re-occuring, brb crafting a bajillion.

Yeah, I usually craft them by the stack and keep a spare stack around at all times. That aside, make sure to make some redstone energy cells so you can directly control how much energy your systems are using. For example, you can set your quarries to only take 20mj/t if you want more efficiency at the cost of speed. Or you can set it to 50mj/t to make sure that they are only getting the rough-max. they can handle.

 

[JoPOw]

Yes, redstone conduit will always demand energy from engines so engines will never explode/overheat, and they themselves will never explode if they have too much energy.



They don't explode. It's like playing in a world where mob griefing is enabled versus where it is disabled. So, do you want your creepers to blow your stuff up, or not?

Besides that, they have a flat energy loss of 5%, so in most cases they are better suited to the purpose. In some cases, you'd lose more energy through them than you'd lose with conductive piping, but when you factor in needing to design the system to not explode, it is easier to just go with the redstone conduits.



Yeah, I usually craft them by the stack and keep a spare stack around at all times. That aside, make sure to make some redstone energy cells so you can directly control how much energy your systems are using. For example, you can set your quarries to only take 20mj/t if you want more efficiency at the cost of speed. Or you can set it to 50mj/t to make sure that they are only getting the rough-max. they can handle.

Okeydoke. I'll keep that in mind...thanks for the help (again). Judging by various threads I've seen, you are one of the resident helpful people here ^^ Thanks very much.

 

[Guswut]

Okeydoke. I'll keep that in mind...thanks for the help (again). Judging by various threads I've seen, you are one of the resident helpful people here ^^ Thanks very much.

No worries, and just remember to make extra as those redstone conduits are useful! Oh, and, as I think you know but just to make sure, you will need to use the crescent hammer to change the direction of the conduits (right click the ends, either blue or orange, and I never remember which color means what but it makes an arrow. This does not matter on engines [yet, this may change someday] but it does matter on everything else), but if you shift-right click with the crescent hammer, it will remove the redstone conduits instantly as opposed to the five to ten seconds with most tools. This will save you a lot of time.

And if you can spare the diamonds, make an omniwrench as it works for this, as well as BC, IC2 (always lossless mode), and most other things (not RP2's screwdriver, sadly). Good luck!

 

[Hydra]

Simple: don't use pipes, use TE energy conduits. Pipes have rather annoying bugs where they blow up because they store power (even if they should not).

Edit: Didn't see the other replies.

Edit 2: Ugh. Didn't see the entire second page. Doh!

 

[Poppycocks]

Conduits! Conduits! Conduits!

When will these people ever learn?!

 

[Delcar]

I love them - just be aware, if you love compact builds, you need at least 2 to be able to tweak the energy flow; in other words to have one orange and one blue arrow, you'll need 2 pieces of conduit.

 

[Guswut]

I love them - just be aware, if you love compact builds, you need at least 2 to be able to tweak the energy flow; in other words to have one orange and one blue arrow, you'll need 2 pieces of conduit.

THAT is a good additional point to mention, and one that I should have thought but I am glad someone else did. It'd be really nice (hint hint) if on a length one conduit the wrench toggled between blue/blue, orange/orange, blue/orange, and orange/blue.

And don't get me started on wanting a third setting for bidirectional flow (blue and orange so... brown? Purple? Maybe white, instead, actually), and a fourth setting for nulldirectional flow (black, so white for both ways, black for neither way). Perhaps I should go suggest this, eh?

 

[zemerick]

Some notes on the energy loss of conduit: It is not simply a raw 5% loss. Rather, it is a 5% loss whenever the conduit inserts the energy into something else. Got a redstone cell? That'll be 5% of your energy. Energy Tesseract? Another 5% ( plus the 25% from tesseract. ). Quarry? Another 5%. Got a single line 10,000 conduit long going to a quarry? Just 5%

So, with Conduit, you want to keep your builds as absolutely simple as possible. If you have a dozen redstone energy cells in line, you will lose a huge amount of your power. Almost half in fact. Even so, its pros out-weigh its cons in virtually any situation. Seriously, this newest world I'm on I have made a grand total of 0 conductive pipes.

If you want some form of redstone energy cell charging system: Charge them in parallel. ( IE: Run 1 long line with the cells attached to the side of that line. Do not go into 1, out to another, etc. )

 

[Delcar]

I've been using a redstone enegy cell as a throttle - it's the 'source' for my machines, while all the engines feed into it.
In other words, it's between the engines and the machines that draw power.

If I understand what Zemerick is saying, (I haven't tested it myself)

[]= 'thing' drawing power
=== conduit


Each of the things here will cause a cumulative 5% hit to your power before it continues down the line?
===[]=[]=[]===


BUT: This is somehow better?
[][][]
=========

 

[Peppe]

I've been using a redstone enegy cell as a throttle - it's the 'source' for my machines, while all the engines feed into it.
In other words, it's between the engines and the machines that draw power.

If I understand what Zemerick is saying, (I haven't tested it myself)

[]= 'thing' drawing power
=== conduit


Each of the things here will cause a cumulative 5% hit to your power before it continues down the line?
===[]=[]=[]===


BUT: This is somehow better?
[][][]
=========

Energy conduit has a flat 5% power loss. So if you run a line from an engine or engines to an energy cell or machines you will loss 5% in that segment. It can be 2 blocks long or 1000... the loss is still 5% for any continuous run of energy conduit.

If at any endpoint you connect an energy cell then run an independent run of conduit to a machine or any other energy user that segment will loss 5% as well.

So you send 100 mj out from your engine(s) to an energy conduit and 95 arrives at your energy cell. Say your energy cell is set to send out 20 mj/t then a little over 19 arrives at the machine.

So taking 100 MJ and running it in series through multiple energy cells will erode the output -- 100 MJs becomes ~80MJ after going through 5 energy conduit segments and just 60MJ after 10 segments.

 

[Delcar]

Gotcha, so my throttle is actually loosing more energy. Ah well, I'm re-doing the power plant now anyway.

 

[v4vndt]

Hey guys. I'm having a similar issue. I have 40 electrical engines hooked up to wooden- and then golden-conductive pipes. the gold conductive pipe is running to all my buildcraft machines, lasers for assembly table, some energy cells, and finally the energy tesseract. All this worked fine for about a month with some minor explosions due to energy buildups in the pipes. So I converted to redstone energy conduit. All machines/energy cells run fine, I have the output set up correctly on the conduits, but the tesseract wont accept the energy like it did before. I tried using a buffer ( redstone energy cell directly next to the tesseract) still nothing. tried using GC pipe in between the cell and the tesseract, still nothing. Pictures coming soon. Please help.

 

[v4vndt]

1. http://a0.vsoh.com/1dxz.jpg
2. http://a0.vsoh.com/2quu.jpg
3. http://a1.vsoh.com/3rjw.jpg
4. http://a1.vsoh.com/4zwo.jpg
5. http://a0.vsoh.com/5ksx.jpg
hopefully this helps
cheers

 

[Peppe]

On conduit, blue is input. Orange is output.

Double check the tesseracts to make sure you have the right input / output on the conduit.
Check the tesserract mode, send only / receive only etc...

 

[v4vndt]

Thanks for the quick reply.
I checked with a multimeter. the only issue is with the tesseract as far as I can tell. in picture 1 and two you can see the blue for input into machines. the bc machines work (ie liquid transposer magma crucible) but the tesseract wont recieve. its set to private send only (since this is the transmitting end of the tesseract). which is what i had before I switched to conduits. I assume this is a setting between tesseracts and shouldnt effect the direct input? like i said, no changes made to anything cept change from conductive pipe to conduit. pics 3 4 and 5 show the engine set up. all orange. It's probably something I overlooked but I'm confused so haha.

 

[Peppe]

On a tablet so can't see pics well.

Send tessaract should be on engine side with blue input conduit.
Receive tesseract should be on a destination network with an orange conduit to output on that network.

 

[Peppe]

If the tesseract in pic one is the reciever looks like you need to flip the conduit on it to orange mode.

Can't make out the other tesseract. Which pic?

Unrelated, One of your lasers has orange mode - should be blue.

 

[v4vndt]

yep, and yep.
does it need to have conduit from the destination tesseract to the quarry? Right now its just directly attached.

 

[Peppe]

They should work directly attached. To test You will need 2 conduit to test... Blue on quarry orange on tesseract.

 

[v4vndt]

^^pic one is the sender. its directly connected through the electrical engines via conduit.

in regard to the lasers I was seeing if the redstone would output.