Tech World VS Magic World - Fight!

[PierceSG]

Does that bypass Death Protection Poppets? If not, the mages could literally walk through it.

I tried it back in 1.6.4, the forcefield basically kills anyone without permission in it. If you are alive after the first time, it will kill you again. It isn't a one time deal while going in.
and there is also a setting to confiscate the equipped items and all of the inventory of any one without permission inside the field as well.

 

[Antaioz]

I tried it back in 1.6.4, the forcefield basically kills anyone without permission in it. If you are alive after the first time, it will kill you again. It isn't a one time deal while going in.
and there is also a setting to confiscate the equipped items and all of the inventory of any one without permission inside the field as well.

Does magic have an alternative to the aerial interface? that'd work...

Other than that I'm sure there are some projectiles that could cover the distance between wherever the forcefield wall is and the power source.
That forcefield is going to have to be absolutely massive too, and the power generation is going to either be really big, or require a lot of upkeep. not only does it have to encompass conceivably a city, but it would also have to stretch from bedrock to y=256 to prevent mages from simply flying up and bombing you from above...

oh wait... can't we fly above 256 anyway?

Mages could also capture blood magic demons and other nasty mobs, then send them through a nether portal into the tech area. Unleash the army of withers!!

 

[PierceSG]

I'm not sure about the Blood Magic demons but MFFS is use to make Wither farms where it traps and kills withers.

Power source, well, big reactors. They are pretty compact for the amount of power it generates so there is no problem on power.

As for information, there is a reddit post 4 months ago asking for ways to bypass mffs.
A lot of methods are tested but it seems nigh indestructible.

 

[Antaioz]

I'm not sure about the Blood Magic demons but MFFS is use to make Wither farms where it traps and kills withers.

As I recall it takes at least a few seconds for MFFS to kill withers, in that time, 20 of them could cause considerable destruction...

 

[PierceSG]

As I recall it takes at least a few seconds for MFFS to kill withers, in that time, 20 of them could cause considerable destruction...

Well, they could always encase their important stuffs with Ender IO's Reinforced Obsidian. Those are wither-proof.

I know they are 100% wither proof because I'm using them to encase Withers so I can hit them with my sword easily that way.

 

[Azzanine]

Well here's the difinitive answer, only 2 mods have the ability to kill players in creative mod, they go through ALL invunerability. The MFR laser drill and the MFFS secuiry field. Tech wins. One security field set up around your base and noone could get in spitting distance, it can't be seen, can't be stopped and steals all the items from a player it kills. GG Magic.

The lazer drill is difficult to weaponize but could be used in a trap I suppose, would be an RF heavy trap though... As for the MFFS security system, it's good for defense but setting it up to attack might be a tad difficult. You could do it in a covert way I guess, sneak up or under a mages base and sneakily set up the security system powered remotely via a tesseract.

Also @Antaioz Purplefantum was talking about the security feild not the force feild, MFFS has a block that can make an area in to a guaranteed death zone. It costs a lot of power to run but power cost is nothing these days.
@RJS whether the poppet works or not doesn't matter the MFFS security feild periodically kills it doesn't just pop once and leave it there. If It senses an intruder it will keep pulsing untill the feilds power supply drains or the intruder dies. In other words you'd need a lot of poppets to just "walk through".

 

[RJS]

The lazer drill is difficult to weaponize but could be used in a trap I suppose, would be an RF heavy trap though... As for the MFFS security system, it's good for defense but setting it up to attack might be a tad difficult. You could do it in a covert way I guess, sneak up or under a mages base and sneakily set up the security system powered remotely via a tesseract.

Also @Antaioz Purplefantum was talking about the security feild not the force feild, MFFS has a block that can make an area in to a guaranteed death zone. It costs a lot of power to run but power cost is nothing these days.
@RJS whether the poppet works or not doesn't matter the MFFS security feild periodically kills it doesn't just pop once and leave it there. If It senses an intruder it will keep pulsing untill the feilds power supply drains or the intruder dies. In other words you'd need a lot of poppets to just "walk through".

I was thinking of a lot of poppets

 

[PierceSG]

I was thinking of a lot of poppets

What can you do if you are naked even if you don't die? Security fields can be configured to confiscated every items on a player if they aren't registered as friendly.

 

[Antaioz]

The lazer drill is difficult to weaponize but could be used in a trap I suppose, would be an RF heavy trap though... As for the MFFS security system, it's good for defense but setting it up to attack might be a tad difficult. You could do it in a covert way I guess, sneak up or under a mages base and sneakily set up the security system powered remotely via a tesseract.

Also @Antaioz Purplefantum was talking about the security feild not the force feild, MFFS has a block that can make an area in to a guaranteed death zone. It costs a lot of power to run but power cost is nothing these days.
@RJS whether the poppet works or not doesn't matter the MFFS security feild periodically kills it doesn't just pop once and leave it there. If It senses an intruder it will keep pulsing untill the feilds power supply drains or the intruder dies. In other words you'd need a lot of poppets to just "walk through".

I know he was talking about the security field, it doesn't stop projectiles though so can't combat destruction-type magic

Well, they could always encase their important stuffs with Ender IO's Reinforced Obsidian. Those are wither-proof.

I know they are 100% wither proof because I'm using them to encase Withers so I can hit them with my sword easily that way.

That would mean that either you build the reactors, and you'd need quite a few to run a massive field I'd reckon, right next to the field emitter to prevent the wither blowing up power lines, or encase all power lines throughout the city. Also hope that the nether portal doesn't pop up in the middle of the reactor building.

not sure if those blocks are resistant to magical-based range attacks though...

I was thinking of a lot of poppets

If we can find something like the aerial interface, but magic based, then its almost unlimited poppet feeding. that or keep a bunch in a tinkers knapsack, I doubt MFFS knows to empty that bag. Although grabbing one from the knapsack every second would be difficult and tedious, and would only last ~27 seconds... hrm...

oh, what about those poppet shelves, do they work with death protection poppets? (witchery newbie here )

Would the last stand enchant prevent MFFS death aswell?
Or the golden laurel crown from botania, book says it prevents death and gives a small period of invincibility when it does so.

 

[PierceSG]

Tech mods have lots of blocks that transmit items, fluids and power wirelessly and across dimensions as well so there is no need for long wiring.

The defense station of MFFS will probably confiscate everything a player has, so the poppet(s) in your inventory will be gone before it kills you. Even if it doesn't take away the TiCo's knapsack.

As for the laurel, I'm not sure if MFFS confiscates baubles or not. If it does, laurel can't help you either since it will strip you naked before killing you.

 

[Antaioz]

apparently death protection poppets do work on poppet shelves, so that's a way in if MFFS can't bypass it. Witchery claims it doesn't matter the cause, so it should.

we're back to mages walking straight through the field

 

[PierceSG]

apparently death protection poppets do work on poppet shelves, so that's a way in if MFFS can't bypass it. Witchery claims it doesn't matter the cause, so it should.

we're back to mages walking straight through the field

So what can mages do naked then?

 

[yotus]

We should just wait for someone to actually set up such a server, then have two teams build bases for like two weeks, and then give it a try !

But from what I read, it seems that there are more tech-people than magic ones in this thread.. so we'd have to wait until enough magicians show up

 

[Antaioz]

We should just wait for someone to actually set up such a server, then have two teams build bases for like two weeks, and then give it a try !

But from what I read, it seems that there are more tech-people than magic ones in this thread.. so we'd have to wait until enough magicians show up

I'm actually more tech inclined than magic, I just don't think it's as simple as MFFS=win

That said, I'd probably give either a bash, if it ever happened.

 

[PierceSG]

I'm just arguing for arguments' sake.

Mages would be pretty strong in my opinion but I'm just trying to say that the techs aren't a push over either.

 

[Omegatron]

One thing to keep in mind, the MFFS interdiction station can also stop people from placing, breaking, and interacting with blocks in its area of effect. I don't know if that would stop stuff like bloodmagic, it's worth testing.