[TC] Best thing to Deconstruct to get Aqua?

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ThatOneSlowking

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And here we go again...
Don't get me wrong, if you never use much Potentia or Potentia Accessories, Ignis sounds meaningless. I use it constantly. Know why? I use the default research mode, connect the aspects. And I use a LOT of Praecantio. Turn off that mode, and go easy on everything? TONS OF IT!
I'm often asking myself, "why can't I hold all this Terra"? because I use pretty much zero terra. Unless I'm using the Victus chain, that is. I occasionally ask myself "Why can't I hold all this Ordo?" because I have a LOT of it. Until I start combining aspects again. "Why can't I hold all this Ignis?" is not an issue for me. I am always low on it. Because I'm always low on Potentia, because I'm always low on Praecantio. And I always need more Praecantio then I think I do.
I hate easy mode. It is so much more difficult and I always forget about its existance :p
 
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YX33A

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I hate easy mode. It is so much more difficult and I always forget about its existance :p
I actually love that it's more expensive then normal mode but easier to use. Almost wish someone would make an addon for TC that lets a user pick what mode to use with the flick of a switch, a GUI button, etc etc, in game. That'd be nice.
 

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easy mode should be called grinding mode :p It requires more aspects to do and often aspects than you don't have. I actually consider playing on hard mode where you have to do all the research to save aspects.
The thing about easy mode is that it forces your to craft everything. When I was messing about in 1.7 the only way to get points was via crafting tc items. There's few mods available and most aren't tapping into the api yet.

That said, I hate the puzzle and I'd just use the cheat Site anyway. It's better than the rune system though
 
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Azzanine

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And here we go again...
Don't get me wrong, if you never use much Potentia or Potentia Accessories, Ignis sounds meaningless. I use it constantly. Know why? I use the default research mode, connect the aspects. And I use a LOT of Praecantio. Turn off that mode, and go easy on everything? TONS OF IT!
I'm often asking myself, "why can't I hold all this Terra"? because I use pretty much zero terra. Unless I'm using the Victus chain, that is. I occasionally ask myself "Why can't I hold all this Ordo?" because I have a LOT of it. Until I start combining aspects again. "Why can't I hold all this Ignis?" is not an issue for me. I am always low on it. Because I'm always low on Potentia, because I'm always low on Praecantio. And I always need more Praecantio then I think I do.

I use default mode too, ignis has very little partner aspects meaning the research minigame doesn't need it very often meaning you accumulate it. As I said out of the primal aspects ignis only connects to 2 things (lux and potentia) where as the other primal aspects combine in to many things.
 

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The thing is with crafting tables, that you ALWAYS get an aspect by using them. Other items have a chance of being destroyed and yielding zero points. It may not always be the point you need but you'll eventually stack up.
It's much faster to get something with only the aspect you want, and put it in several deconstruction tables at the same time. With crafting tables you waste time clicking on all those other aspects, so you can't use more than one or two deconstruction tables.
 

YX33A

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I use default mode too, ignis has very little partner aspects meaning the research minigame doesn't need it very often meaning you accumulate it. As I said out of the primal aspects ignis only connects to 2 things (lux and potentia) where as the other primal aspects combine in to many things.
But unless you never combine aspects for your research, it's the most useful aspect because of those two aspects built from it. Lux connects to Aer and Aer has many connections, right? Potentia connects to Ordo and Praecantio is all but needed for anything I've found. Sure, early research, no big deal. Get past that? Use it while you have it, because you need more then you think.
 

ThatOneSlowking

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But unless you never combine aspects for your research, it's the most useful aspect because of those two aspects built from it. Lux connects to Aer and Aer has many connections, right? Potentia connects to Ordo and Praecantio is all but needed for anything I've found. Sure, early research, no big deal. Get past that? Use it while you have it, because you need more then you think.
I would like to point out yesterday I had 72 praecantio, did some research, and I had to scan nodes for more.
Mind you this was vanilla TC.
 
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Dezz

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All these words. I don't know what they mean.

Perhaps I should get into TC.

It could have a... Magical outcome.

*hears groans*
 

Revemohl

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That's why you should always add Forbidden Magic to your pack, it makes Ignis two times more useful.
 

Eruantien

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Alright, will do that when the server loads up.
If you just need the text, then all you have to do is open the TC zip or jar file, go into the "assets/thaumcraft/lang" directory and copy the text from "en_us.lang".
Or get it from the GitHub repo.
Pictures however...
 

Iluvalar

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To answer the OP the wrong way around : You don't need to deconstruct aspect. You need to learn to research with what you have in excess (namely metalum) and you should try to avoid using the same elements over and over. If you scan all your machines and nodes and do this properly, you should have enough aspect for everything.

The first few time you research, you don't know all the possible path and you end up using the same old patterns everywhere. And that's where you need to deconstruct.
 

Eruantien

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To answer the OP the wrong way around : You don't need to deconstruct aspect. You need to learn to research with what you have in excess (namely metalum) and you should try to avoid using the same elements over and over. If you scan all your machines and nodes and do this properly, you should have enough aspect for everything.

The first few time you research, you don't know all the possible path and you end up using the same old patterns everywhere. And that's where you need to deconstruct.
Also, don't scan all the things in one go, as you will get diminished returns when you already have 64 of an aspect. So, once you have an excess of an aspect, as you are saying, you should use that up to make room for more.
 
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To answer the OP the wrong way around : You don't need to deconstruct aspect. You need to learn to research with what you have in excess (namely metalum) and you should try to avoid using the same elements over and over. If you scan all your machines and nodes and do this properly, you should have enough aspect for everything.

The first few time you research, you don't know all the possible path and you end up using the same old patterns everywhere. And that's where you need to deconstruct.
How could one think that? The whole post. How? I use the same aspects a lot because I want to waste almost nothing ,and many aspects have only 1 or 2 linked aspects. What then? If you need Metallum because you have one space between saxum and ordo, why avoid using metallum? If you have 1 space between ordo and Vintium, why avoid using Praecantio? If you want to link Humanus and Metallum, why avoid doing it in two aspects and going for more then two?

And how can one NOT know what aspects to use and fall back on old tricks, if one has a list of all aspects and what they are made of at your disposal? IN GAME no less!