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DoctorOr

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Which pretty much describes the whole mod, with the possible exception of the barrels.

Not hardly. The routers are the best thing about the mod. Just, the routers don't work the best for barrels.

For that, use immibis infinitubes or AE. Or the inferior, laggy, choice used by people stuck in 2011 and unable to progress to the present, redpower.
 

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most of my inventory lives in an ender pouch :)
Which also suck horribly when compared to Forestry Backpacks. If you can use 'em? Fine. But if you can convince five other people to use 'em, you should make a career of politics.

Not hardly. The routers are the best worst thing about the mod. Just, the routers don't work the best for barrels anything.
FIFY.

If you are playing with AE, then Routers are a complete waste of a block ID. For that matter, RP2 does a MUCH better job at sorting things. I have yet to see a practical application for a router that I could not do better with chests and RP2. As far as I am concerned, DW20 ended up with a decided DOWNgrade when he switched to the router setup.

And there's really zero use for it outside of barrels. For automated smelting operations? RP2 + TE work *MUCH* better. Or AE, if you prefer.

For that, use immibis infinitubes or AE. Or the inferior, laggy, choice used by people stuck in 2011 and unable to progress to the present, redpower.
Say what you will, but Redpower at least works, which is more than I can say for Factorization. I will grant you that AE is pretty much everything Logistics Pipes wishes it was, but exceedingly expensive for using it for all the things I would use RP2 for. Plus, still can't lay a hand on frames. Or Redwire. Or Logic Gates.
 

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If you are playing with AE, then Routers are a complete waste of a block ID are literally the best way to access large banks of identical machines. For that matter, RP2 does a MUCH better literally the worst job at sorting things.

No, Fixed that for you

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The routers are filled/emptied underneath. Two routers to fill them with input items - could be one, but I split so I can process two different inputs - Rubber wood and spider eyes in this block of machines. One router to fill all 22 with empty cells. One router to extract from all 22.

(128EU, the output of a LV transformer, powers 22 machines with a small extra buffer - there is no real reason 3 routers couldn't handle literally hundreds of identical machines.)
 

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Which also suck horribly when compared to Forestry Backpacks. If you can use 'em? Fine. But if you can convince five other people to use 'em, you should make a career of politics.

FIFY.

If you are playing with AE, then Routers are a complete waste of a block ID. For that matter, RP2 does a MUCH better job at sorting things. I have yet to see a practical application for a router that I could not do better with chests and RP2. As far as I am concerned, DW20 ended up with a decided DOWNgrade when he switched to the router setup.

And there's really zero use for it outside of barrels. For automated smelting operations? RP2 + TE work *MUCH* better. Or AE, if you prefer.

Say what you will, but Redpower at least works, which is more than I can say for Factorization. I will grant you that AE is pretty much everything Logistics Pipes wishes it was, but exceedingly expensive for using it for all the things I would use RP2 for. Plus, still can't lay a hand on frames. Or Redwire. Or Logic Gates.

I find ender pouches much better than forestry backpacks myself, I also use redpower2 canvas sacks and other ender pouches within my ender pouch.

Main pouch (diamonded if on a server) all stuff goes in here apart from armour I'm wearing, 4 or 5 main tools, a stack of steak, some torches and, of course, my pocket crafting table.

Things in main pouch:

filler, redstone energy cell, somem landmakrs, redstone torch, wraith eye and ender pearls, minium stone, buckets and:

2nd ender pouch: coloured same as my sorting system input so I can sort things while out in the world

3rd ender pouch: linked to my charge-o-mat auto recharge station to charge any chargeable thing on me in seconds

1st canvas bag: tools - all my spare tools, weapons etc; shears, portal gun, eu-reader, sonic screwdriver, beealizer...

2nd canvas bag: mystcraft - linking books, stands, a notebook for collecting pages

3rd canvas bag: misc

I used to carry 2 forestry packs (miner and digger) but never needed them so they're in a chest.

Point of my story: forestry backpacks while fine for you are totally surplus to requirements for me, it's fun that we're not all exactly the same :)

Finally, couple of router uses that I like:

export bus -> router -> several machines -> router -> import bus
input/output using same face of matter fab
 

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Here's an even better example. 15 recyclers (3 are hidden in the wall) are fed by a single router receiving input of over 12 different items from the AE system and five extruders as well. A second recycler pulls out scrap, which is immediately turned into boxes by the attached fabricator.
 

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No, Fixed that for you

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The routers are filled/emptied underneath. Two routers to fill them with input items - could be one, but I split so I can process two different inputs - Rubber wood and spider eyes in this block of machines. One router to fill all 22 with empty cells. One router to extract from all 22.

(128EU, the output of a LV transformer, powers 22 machines with a small extra buffer - there is no real reason 3 routers couldn't handle literally hundreds of identical machines.)
Umm... what precisely does this contraption do again?

Of course, you could also just build a few geothermals and hook them up to a liquid tesseract to produce more power in the same footprint.
 

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Of course, you could also just build a few geothermals and hook them up to a liquid tesseract to produce more power in the same footprint.

Geothermal is newb power. For newbs. By newbs. And if I was worried about footprint....I wouldn't have such a big base.

Hell, if I was worried about footprint, I could have gone vertical with the machines ...and still could, without changing any wiring except power.
 

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No, Fixed that for you

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The routers are filled/emptied underneath. Two routers to fill them with input items - could be one, but I split so I can process two different inputs - Rubber wood and spider eyes in this block of machines. One router to fill all 22 with empty cells. One router to extract from all 22.

(128EU, the output of a LV transformer, powers 22 machines with a small extra buffer - there is no real reason 3 routers couldn't handle literally hundreds of identical machines.)
This post also answer any and all questions regarding chrome for fusion if coupled with a witch spawner.
Umm... what precisely does this contraption do again?

Of course, you could also just build a few geothermals and hook them up to a liquid tesseract to produce more power in the same footprint.
You're right in your surmise that that particular machine produces methane. You completely failed to go one step further and realize what other uses it could have AND what amazing scaleability said machine has. You just can't replicate that any other way.
 

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I find ender pouches much better than forestry backpacks myself, I also use redpower2 canvas sacks and other ender pouches within my ender pouch.

Main pouch (diamonded if on a server) all stuff goes in here apart from armour I'm wearing, 4 or 5 main tools, a stack of steak, some torches and, of course, my pocket crafting table.

Things in main pouch:

filler, redstone energy cell, somem landmakrs, redstone torch, wraith eye and ender pearls, minium stone, buckets and:

2nd ender pouch: coloured same as my sorting system input so I can sort things while out in the world

3rd ender pouch: linked to my charge-o-mat auto recharge station to charge any chargeable thing on me in seconds

1st canvas bag: tools - all my spare tools, weapons etc; shears, portal gun, eu-reader, sonic screwdriver, beealizer...

2nd canvas bag: mystcraft - linking books, stands, a notebook for collecting pages

3rd canvas bag: misc

I used to carry 2 forestry packs (miner and digger) but never needed them so they're in a chest.

Point of my story: forestry backpacks while fine for you are totally surplus to requirements for me, it's fun that we're not all exactly the same :)
I find this particularly amusing, considering all of this can be consolidated easily.

Forestry backpacks = 15 slots (assuming you don't upgrade) of automatically 'I don't have to care about it'. I'm going through, tunneling, mining resources, and I don't have to juggle it. It just shows up in my backpack. Very handy when I'm doing my initial caving expeditions and having to deal with ninja creepers. The last thing I would want to have to do is micromanage my inventory. Also, attainable the first time you do serious mining. Two iron and two smoothstone plus some string, wool, and a couple of chests. That's it.

Most of the things you are talking about are late-game. And you don't need an ender bag for any of it. And you're taking FAR too many things with you wherever you go.

Things I take with me:

1) Mining Backpack. Because not needing to shuffle inventory is important.
2) Digging Backpack. Because not clogging your inventory with dirt/cobble and not needing to shuffle inventory is important.
3) EnderBag hooked up to my sorting system. If my mining/digging backpack gets clogged, it gets transfered.
4) Canvas Bag. Basic tool carryall. Includes a spare linking book to my nether base as an evacuation option since I disable PortalGun.

Hotbar is: Weapon, Tool, food, torch, and whatever else I might immediately need. There is zero use for a Filler out in the range. If there is, I book back and bring one.

Done.

I find I don't much need to recharge my MPS gear all that frequently. Then again, I'm not trying to outmatch Gravisuite movement either.

Finally, couple of router uses that I like:

export bus -> router -> several machines -> router -> import bus
input/output using same face of matter fab
Better to just hook them up straight and save yourself the blown up diamond block.
 

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You're right in your surmise that that particular machine produces methane. You completely failed to go one step further and realize what other uses it could have AND what amazing scaleability said machine has. You just can't replicate that any other way.
You also have no need to either. Your point?

If you have hundreds of a single type of machine running at the same time, you are running MC on a far more powerful machine than me. It's also probably an indication that you've spent so much time on your game that it's effectively on creative mode and you're just putzing around to see what you can build.

Geothermal is newb power. For newbs. By newbs. And if I was worried about footprint....I wouldn't have such a big base.
Eh, I don't much care for anything about IC2 anymore. TE has better ore processing. MPS has better gear. There's not much point to generating EU's anymore.

Hell, if I was worried about footprint, I could have gone vertical with the machines ...and still could, without changing any wiring except power.
Footprints in a 3d environment are also 3d. You can't eliminate your footprint by going vertical, you just shift it onto your y axis.
 

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You also have no need to either. Your point?
Heh, now you're just being difficult because why? Oh bad bad mod made you explode a block of diamond, is that it?

One of the nice things about said build is that you could build it in a compact clump, heck, even a cube if you found a way to power the machines. But really, the scaleability is great because it allows you to make your systems much more dynamic, you can add and remove machines as is needed with no additional pipes or tubes or busses or anything.

Ah, I'm just ruining my keyboard on a hater for no real purpose. Whoop, back to playing.
 

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You also have no need to either. Your point?
Eh, I don't much care for anything about IC2 anymore. TE has better ore processing.

In the first hour, sure. GT has the best ore processing in FTB, and if there's any mod anywhere that's better I don't know of it.

Except for tin. Factorization process is better for tin.

Footprints in a 3d environment are also 3d. You can't eliminate your footprint by going vertical, you just shift it onto your y axis.

Footprints in Minecraft are chunks. Chunks are always the entire range of y blocks. 255 blocks, with sixty-ish "underground". if I cared about my Minecraft footprint, I'd go vertical.
 

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In the first hour, sure. GT has the best ore processing in FTB, and if there's any mod anywhere that's better I don't know of it.
GT... eh, that's a whole 'nother debate. Suffice to say, it simply doesn't interest me. It tried to be entertaining, but it failed entirely due to the wrist-wracking subcombines needed to make... well... anything.

Except for tin. Factorization process is better for tin.
If you want to wait a couple of months for it all to get done...
Heh, now you're just being difficult because why? Oh bad bad mod made you explode a block of diamond, is that it?
More along the lines of 'let's blow up a diamond to do things I can already do, but also crappier and with a greater chance of getting clogged up at a moment's notice'.

One of the nice things about said build is that you could build it in a compact clump, heck, even a cube if you found a way to power the machines. But really, the scaleability is great because it allows you to make your systems much more dynamic, you can add and remove machines as is needed with no additional pipes or tubes or busses or anything.
I think your definition of 'scalability' and mine are different. I think your definition of 'scalability' is my definition of 'computer meltdown'. At least if we're talking hundreds to thousands of machines being run simultaneously.

Ah, I'm just ruining my keyboard on a hater for no real purpose.
Pretty much.
Whoop, back to playing.
Ditto.

To each their own. I can't stand IC2 anymore, much less GT, and once I get to a certain point I tend to just start over because there's no real point any further after a certain level of 'I have all the stuffs'. IC2's UUM (even with GT's much-needed nerf) is pretty much 'free stuff' since you've got thousands of EU coming out of your fusion reactor. At that point, I get bored, feeling more like I'm playing on Creative, blow the world up in a particularly interesting fashion, and make a new one.
 

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Forgot one, pipeless insertion of frames into alvearies,
And you're taking FAR too many things with you wherever you go.

The point is I don't take any of it, its all in an ender chest next to my bed, I just have access to it all wherever I go, and my bag stays clean enough that I'm always able to craft with the pocket crafting table, which brings me back to my original post in the thread - pocket crafting table is a good thing.

Another awesome router use whilst I'm replying: frames into alvearies
 

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If you want to wait a couple of months for it all to get done...

So add more machines to the process....oh but you can't, because you need so much infrastructure per machine.

22 centrifuges need 154 quartz if you were going to use AE interfaces. 968 iron. 594 redstone. 66 gold.

More along the lines of 'let's blow up a diamond to do things I can already do, but also crappier and with a greater chance of getting clogged up at a moment's notice'.

Routers don't clog unless you don't give them somewhere to put something. The error occurs between keyboard and chair.

Plus you get wrath lamps.

I think your definition of 'scalability' and mine are different. I think your definition of 'scalability' is my definition of 'computer meltdown'. At least if we're talking hundreds to thousands of machines being run simultaneously.

I get 60fps. Even small redpower setups drop that to 10.

To each their own. I can't stand IC2 anymore, much less GT

So your answer is "I don't use it, so it sucks." You're not even trying anymore.

coming out of your fusion reactor.

Except you don't have a fusion reactor.
 

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When you take a lava bath:
Ender Bag contents: still in matching ender chests.
Backpacks and pouches: burn in fire!

Ender bags win!

Just saying.
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