My project fails: I have Botania
That said, I plan on doing some heavy modifications via CT. I like this mod when its restricted to clever use: its has very techy approaches to its obstacles.
That said, I plan on doing some heavy modifications via CT. I like this mod when its restricted to clever use: its has very techy approaches to its obstacles.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, and I apologize, I've been in and out of meetings today so I haven't read the entire thread, but isn't the biggest issue here that the mods themselves haven't had time to stabilize in a good while? All you can really do at this point is throw together what's out there as an experimental or explorative pack, but you're not going to get that kind of well-established, perfectly polished version of Infinity-like Hard mode until there's been enough time for:
A) All the necessary mods to be included in the first place
B) The FTB developers to have enough time to try and test out new mods to make sure they can make them fit in a cohesive, public package
I would think that honestly, the best thing someone could do right now is play other people's packs and use other less used mods now while the rest of the mods keep cooking, and if you find any gems, start talking about them so they get more attention.
I'm all for what people are looking for, BTW, despite my comments at the top of the thread about the methods. Most of what I've been doing is buying time for when a fully polished kitchen sink hard mode comes out. But I'd rather wait for it to be right.
A) All the necessary mods to be included in the first place
B) The FTB developers to have enough time to try and test out new mods to make sure they can make them fit in a cohesive, public package
I would think that honestly, the best thing someone could do right now is play other people's packs and use other less used mods now while the rest of the mods keep cooking, and if you find any gems, start talking about them so they get more attention.
I'm all for what people are looking for, BTW, despite my comments at the top of the thread about the methods. Most of what I've been doing is buying time for when a fully polished kitchen sink hard mode comes out. But I'd rather wait for it to be right.
No this is a perfectly valid point.
These conversations tend to get really messed up sometimes because people will suggest, perfectly innocently, that a new mod like NuclearCraft should be in an FTB pack, without understanding that it hasn't really had enough time to get itself solidly together.
*I* like using NuclearCraft in packs, but its because I follow its development. It changes frequently and in breaking ways because its still trying to finish some central mechanics.
This is similarly true of stuff like, say, Mekanism, which is notorious (deservingly or otherwise) of having stability/performance problems. Its a very popular mod, but how do the people who have to maintain the pack, including the considerable tech support requests, justify adding it in when they know its going to be a source of problems?
All of this is why I dread the emergence of 1.13+. I hate new MC releases. The best thing for modded minecraft right now would be giant meteor taking out all mojang infrastructure for a year or two
(mostly not serious)
I really wish the modding community would just take that into their own hands and stop following Mojang anyway. The post 1.8 performance changes were enough. 1.10.2, IMO, pretty stable and we should have just stopped there. Adventure maps? I mean, sure, it's neat, but if 1.11 and 1.12 weren't moddable, someone in the community would just take that adventure map concept and make it better, or at least just port over 99% of the functionality. We don't *need* mojang for anything.
I was very happy to hear that 1.13+ will break things again. GOOD. Is 1.12.2 pretty much stable? Let's just all use that for like a year.
I was very happy to hear that 1.13+ will break things again. GOOD. Is 1.12.2 pretty much stable? Let's just all use that for like a year.
Personally I think they got the idea right with Infinity Evolved, which is make the kitchen sink pack and then build the expert mode off of that. Nothing even says you need to use all the mods in the pack as part of expert mode. I mean, expert mode could be disabling things like Thermal Expansion, or Botania. Not just tweaking the recipes but making the stuff uncraftable.
I tend to look at 3rd party packs for alternative pack implementations of mods. Minecraft AEONs on the Twitch Launcher has biome dependant ore spawns, if anyone's looking for something different to normal CoFH generation. Looked like a fun pack, but I got side-tracked by Modular Mayhem Reloaded instead.
I tend to look at 3rd party packs for alternative pack implementations of mods. Minecraft AEONs on the Twitch Launcher has biome dependant ore spawns, if anyone's looking for something different to normal CoFH generation. Looked like a fun pack, but I got side-tracked by Modular Mayhem Reloaded instead.
+1.
Let me know how MMR is. It has nuclearcraft in it! And pneumaticcraft reloaded!!
Curiously, no "Modular Machinery"
Modular Machinery? Never heard of that one. Seems kind of interesting. I'll have to make the suggestion.
As is, it's got Magneticraft (which is admittedly WIP), Immersive Engineering and Petroleum, so...
Actually so far it's pretty fantastic. Silent's Gems instead of Tinkers, which is making life a little difficult for me. (And not helping that I recorded a second episode and OBS only captured voice and a Black Screen.)
As is, it's got Magneticraft (which is admittedly WIP), Immersive Engineering and Petroleum, so...
Actually so far it's pretty fantastic. Silent's Gems instead of Tinkers, which is making life a little difficult for me. (And not helping that I recorded a second episode and OBS only captured voice and a Black Screen.
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I was mostly teasing about MM since the name of the pack reminded me of the mod.Modular Machinery? Never heard of that one. Seems kind of interesting. I'll have to make the suggestion.
As is, it's got Magneticraft (which is admittedly WIP), Immersive Engineering and Petroleum, so...
Actually so far it's pretty fantastic. Silent's Gems instead of Tinkers, which is making life a little difficult for me. (And not helping that I recorded a second episode and OBS only captured voice and a Black Screen.
Its purely for pack devs with no canned content. Its only useful if the modpack as it stands is missing a multiblock structure.
Has nobody heard of CustomOreGen? I'll grant you it makes worldgen a notable bit laggier, but if you want GT oregen (or basically anything else you can think of) without GT's greg-ness? COG is your mod! Biome-specific ores? No problem. Flat sheet-like veins? Yep. Giant motherlode deposits with thin branches? Can-do! Veins coated in other materials (kimberlite-esque diamond ore tubes filled with lava!)? No problem! Ores embedded in other materials or even other ores? You betcha! Mixed ore veins? I actually can't remember right now, but I'm pretty sure that's an affirmative too.
And with Ore Flowers from Draco18s? You don't usually need prospecting, just look for the flowers!
And with Ore Flowers from Draco18s? You don't usually need prospecting, just look for the flowers!
That’s actually what we used for the custom pack we had
never could get the hang of those flowers though Yeah, you'd want a better prospecting tool later game, but it's nice knowing you've got an iron/nickel/copper/tin/whatever vein in the area if you're willing to put in a bit of directed effort to find it. At least when the alternative is aimlessly mining
This is very true!Yeah, you'd want a better prospecting tool later game, but it's nice knowing you've got an iron/nickel/copper/tin/whatever vein in the area if you're willing to put in a bit of directed effort to find it. At least when the alternative is aimlessly mining
Can I just say, I think the thread has ended up turning from a somewhat negative start into a really positive discussion? That's one of the things I love about this Forum
I've often wanted to try and lay out a mod pack that has semi-biome dependant ores to promote train use. Start with big clouds of poor ores, then as you burrow deeper you run into normal sized ore pockets, and as you reach the bottom you start seeing them in very small pockets of dense ores.
There was a mod pack that did that in the 1.7 days. Don't remember the name, was mining related, but had a fat Steve looking character on the launcher mad of ores.
That was it. Thought it was a 1.7 pack.
Anyway, it had the layered ore like @KingTriaxx mentioned. Was a cool pack except that there were so many different ores that just getting the iron to make a better pick became a huge pain. Ended up giving up after a while because I couldn't get enough coal to smelt the poor ore and make anything more automated.
Was cool though.
Anyway, it had the layered ore like @KingTriaxx mentioned. Was a cool pack except that there were so many different ores that just getting the iron to make a better pick became a huge pain. Ended up giving up after a while because I couldn't get enough coal to smelt the poor ore and make anything more automated.
Was cool though.
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Jreid27
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I'm not a polite person, I will demand the best from everyone I ever meet for the entirety of my life and nothing will ever change that.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Please allow me to "expect" the best from you. That's a shitty attitude that won't get you anywhere in life.
Of course. What do you think we're demanding from you?
Not polite = Not the best. No worries, we'll help you improve.
Celestialphoenix
Too Much Free Time
I did have a good go at using COG, but I found it overwhelming and couldn't get the hang of it. Someone more skilled then myself could do some brilliant things with it. CoFH worldgen can't quite do all of the above, but I found it comparatively easier to use, and I can get most the features I want. (still struggled a lot to start with- wasn't easy to get the hang of).
Its also in 95% of packs, so if people want to try mixing it up- give it a go!
From what I understand from the COG docs, the biggest performance hit comes from COG replacing all the ore-gen with stone- then starting from scratch with its own files. You could negate most the issues with a few config pokes.