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Redpower 2 future in FTB?
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I guess I have to repeat myself:
If FTB updates without Redpower, some people will update without issue, others will refuse to update and still others will have to make new worlds.
If FTP doesn't update, nobody updates.
Also: Ugocraft for frames.
For the most part I get what you are saying. But there is still one MAJOR reason why redpower should not be dropped, despite all the problems its caused it is just simply an amazing mod. It is my favorite mod by far. You can't deny that the functionality it adds is worth getting rid of because of all the other stupid issues. Without it automation of many things wouldn't be possible. Not to mention we would lose lots of cool designs, like frame doors and elevators. Not to mention all of the aesthetic stuff like microblocks. I cant imagine using computers without bundled . Speaking of computers, eloraam's are greatly underrated, those things are awesome. I don't see the point of playing tech mods without redpower
I don't understand your point here. If it's that we should create a better alternative, well yeah, those exist, that's the point of people asking if we ought to use those alternatives instead. If it's that we would have a different perspective on mod "ownership" and the benefits of letting other people work on our code, that's just wrong. I've worked on several projects where I had to bow out due to more pressing concerns. If I wanted the project to succeed, handing my duties off to someone else was the always the best approach.
Spot on Doc. I never said anything about not installing RP. It is freedom of choice! I brought up programming because someone made mention of one shouldn't need to know programming to give an opinion.
Btw if you are a musician. A local record company hears of you, probably due to you already have written something and played it, ask you to be on a record. You agree. More then likely youmay get some form of payment for your time and services. So if you don't make music and vanish..no loss other then finding a new musician. You do a kickstarter..so the people should know that it is a donation. By no means a signed contract saying anything, just good faith.
Btw if you are a musician. A local record company hears of you, probably due to you already have written something and played it, ask you to be on a record. You agree. More then likely youmay get some form of payment for your time and services. So if you don't make music and vanish..no loss other then finding a new musician. You do a kickstarter..so the people should know that it is a donation. By no means a signed contract saying anything, just good faith.
I just want to correct that to:
"If FTB updates without redpower, virtually everyone will have to make new worlds." I think most players use RP2 tubes and frames extensively (although I'll admit that's technically just speculation, I don't have any evidence to back it up besides seeing let's plays and forum posts).
Also: Ugocraft isn't a good example, after some google searching I find it's behind RP2 on updates, being still on 1.4.5 as far as I see. [another link]. Even if it were, it only has some functionality of frames (doors and aesthetic touches), it does not allow for mounting other modded items or free motion to build airships, quarries, or tunnel bores, as far as I know (admittedly I never played it, just saw some videos on it before, so correct me if I'm wrong on this point).
But there are plenty of other mods that are arguably better. Also, what you're saying is an opinion. I personally do not like RP2. Like I said, there are a lot of mods that do what her mod does better in some cases. Regardless, it does't matter how good a mod is if it doesn't update enough. Look at Tekkit. It's a mod compilation yea. But it can be related to this. When it was up to date it was great, now there's better things out there like FTB that are updated. But if FTB doesn't update because RP2 doesn't then FTB will just fall into the abyss of un-updated mod packs.
Also, my world wouldn't really be affected by RP2 being dropped. Yea, a few pneumatic tubes would be missing and there would be holes where there used to be basalt and marble but there's already programs that can fix that.
Also, my world wouldn't really be affected by RP2 being dropped. Yea, a few pneumatic tubes would be missing and there would be holes where there used to be basalt and marble but there's already programs that can fix that.
-_- Don't tell me you honestly believe that FTB could stay alive off the Magic Pack, Slow's Stream and RPG Immersion and Ampz? Yes they're used, by they most likely account for a TINY portion of the player base. If Ultimate,Dw20 and Mindcrack were stuck on 1.4.7 while MC keeps going onto 1.6,1.7 then FTB would die.
Tekkit was on 1.2.5 for a long time. They're still around.
You forget Yogs which has a big fan base. Also, I believe someone brought this up, Mindcrack team decided on their pack as well as Direwolf for his. Sooo only ultimate. I don't think, my opinion, that FTB would die from anything. People are also really liking UE so that will be around for a while.
EDIT: Also how many people say. "I liked alpha generation. Or beta 1.7. Even mods have been made for that. Again the beauty of MC is to pick as you wish. Don't want the wither, feel free. Mojang got the money when you bought the same so they are happy.
EDIT: Also how many people say. "I liked alpha generation. Or beta 1.7. Even mods have been made for that. Again the beauty of MC is to pick as you wish. Don't want the wither, feel free. Mojang got the money when you bought the same so they are happy.
Ahh good point. I did forget Yogs. Forgive me. And yes Tekkit is still around and while it is actually doing very well as of recently, without the technic platform, the base Tekkit mod packs are WAY behind. Also, what do you mean Mindcrack and DW have decided on their pack? They will be staying behind for RP2?
No.
Even if they used only RP tubes throughout the entire world, it could all disappear beneath them and not require a new world. Unless they want one. Whats the difference between a world you've been playing where the automation disappears, and a whole new world? Your buildings are still there and you have a lot of stuff.
And replacing the few building blocks that are in RP would be the easiest thing to change over.
There is nothing game breaking about having RP disappear. There is no forced new world.
I'm not so sure. Direwolf seems to have his nose far up Soaryns ass. I would imagine he'd like to play around with new stuff that gets released in Xycraft.
You may be technically correct that one could manage to port their world. I am not saying it's impossible, but that it would be very difficult if you've used RP frames, tubes, and microblocks extensively. And I do consider losing my entire mining system, much of my ore processing system, all of my redstone systems, and siginificant parts of my buildings to be "game breaking." I'd basically be starting over even if I kept the same map, or I'd have to make it a hybrid creative / survival world and cheat in replacements for all the items I lost. I don't think I'm alone being in this position.
Ultimate just came out, and we're already talking about changing a fundamental mod for it. If the modpack will be this fluid so I have to keep remaking or altering my worlds, I'm not going to want to keep using it, and I think others may feel the same way.
Also, I'm not sure why we're having this discussion now, since Elorram has tweeted back in Feb that she's updating (quoted here). I'm just trying to make the point we shouldn't be rushing to dump RP2 yet, if it's been months and FTB is way behind soley because of RP2, then it's worth having a debate on the subject.
Exactly. There are still plenty of other mods to wait for. Save the doomsaying till RP2 is the last one left.
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