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asiekierka

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Facades normally don't prevent connections, for that you have pipe plugs

Yes, but pipe plugs still require an assembly table. That will change in BC 7. Not the requirement for facades, though.
 

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Don't worry about it to much. You are apart of a pack making team. You should be able to find a way to fix that. Add a new recipe or get someone to make a new mini addon.
Making a new recipe wouldn't be too bad, but it would be a lot of grunt work.

EDIT: upon further inspection, it would be way too much trouble to replace every single facade recipe using minetweaker. There's no good way to turn a string into an IItemStack or back. Facades rely on the block's name in string form for the itemstack in NBT data. So in order to do that, you'd need two different arrays, one with the itemstacks in itemstack form and one with the itemstacks in string form, and it would just be a ton of work. Shouldn't be horribly difficult for an addon though.
 
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Making a new recipe wouldn't be too bad, but it would be a lot of grunt work.

EDIT: upon further inspection, it would be way too much trouble to replace every single facade recipe using minetweaker. There's no good way to turn a string into an IItemStack or back. Facades rely on the block's name in string form for the itemstack in NBT data. So in order to do that, you'd need two different arrays, one with the itemstacks in itemstack form and one with the itemstacks in string form, and it would just be a ton of work. Shouldn't be horribly difficult for an addon though.
You could write a custom mod fairly easily.
 

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Well to me $10,000 is a lot... I don't even make $8,000 in a year, and I am working 42 hours a week. So I see $10k as a fair amount.

Welcome to the income disparity issue of America, and most of the corporitized industrial world.

In theory, you earn money based on your ability to contribute.
In practice, you earn money based on who you contribute to, and their ability to pay you.

As the number of "good" employers go down, the job "market" becomes less of a "market" and more of an oligarchy (sic?).

At 2,000 hours per year, $10/hr should be $20,000 per year. But that's not really a sufficient wage, once you count up housing, food, medical, clothing, child expenses, pet expenses, entertainment, and the $3,000 per year that the law assumes that everyone can put into a retirement program because you are assumed to take care of your own retirement program with SSI being a joke. (Don't get me started on this issue ...)

And I dunno about you, but if I have the cash there I will spend it. I will say "I'm only gonna spend $60 this week, but end up spending close to $100" (which is a lot saying that that is almost a week's wage for me)
And I know that if I was to get a raise, which quick frankly I should seeing as I don't even get 1/2 NMW, I would spend all the extra money I get at once.
And if I was to get my salary all in one go? It'd be gone within 2 or 3 months.
You seriously have a money management issue. Consider that when you "retire", you have (in theory) a large lump sum, and many, many years. Now plan on making it last/match.

Or, reduce your expenses to the point that SSI actually is meaningful.
 

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Welcome to the income disparity issue of America, and most of the corporitized industrial world.
To be fair, the US has it far worse than any other industrialized country, as a combination of extreme wage gaps ("$7/hr is enough for anyone, the economy would collapse if we paid more"/"We pay you what you're worth"), terrible social safety nets ("people are abusing the system, today's poor people actually buy nice food!"), a really backwards ("you want to help poor people? COMMUNIST!"/"Why do poor people get all the breaks?! They barely pay taxes!") culture, an extremely materialistic culture ("I just bought the IPhone 6, but the new one has a silver back! I need it or I will never be happy!"/"How will people know I am successful if I only own one car?!") and really, really bad training in things like financial planning ("I can't afford this, so we'll put it on the credit card"/"What do you mean I can't spend my paycheck all at once?! It's my money").
 
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To be fair, the US has it far worse than any other industrialized country, as a combination of extreme wage gaps ("$7/hr is enough for anyone, the economy would collapse if we paid more"/"We pay you what you're worth"), terribly social safety nets ("people are abusing the system, today's poor people actually buy nice food!"), a really backwards ("you want to help poor people? COMMUNIST!"/"Why do poor people get all the breaks?! They barely pay taxes!") culture, an extremely materialistic culture ("I just bought the IPhone 6, but the new one has a silver back! I need it or I will never be happy!"/"How will people know I am successful if I only own one car?!") and really, really bad training in things like financial planning ("I can't afford this, so we'll put it on the credit card"/"What do you mean I can't spend my paycheck all at once?! It's my money").
... I have lived a very sheltered life. Perhaps that's why I'm such a good person. :cool:
 
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To be fair, the US has it far worse than any other industrialized country, as a combination of extreme wage gaps, terribly social safety nets, a really backwards "you want to help poor people? COMMUNIST!" culture, an extremely materialistic culture ("I just bought the IPhone 6, but the new one has a silver back! I need it or I will never be happy!") and really, really bad training in things like financial planning ("I can't afford this, so we'll put it on the credit card").

Okay, as an American I can say that this is pretty far off base.

A) The wage gaps are present between those who work hard / have an education and those who don't want to work hard / get an education. Yes, there are exceptions as always, but that is overwhelmingly the case.
B) In some cases, yes. Not all though.
C) This is false. Absolutely false. People here don't want the government to help, but will harass each other when they refuse to do community service. It's a mentality of not relying on the government to hand things out and rather that it's the responsibility of everyone to help those in need.
D) This is true of a minority, not all. This is like judging every single citizen in America based on what you see coming out of Hollywood.
E) Again, false. Every single financial planning thing I've been at (and I've seen something like 10-15 at this point) they highly recommend never doing this. Again, it's a small minority.
 

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Tartarus.. I mean at work. Same thing really.
To be honest, if you stereotype the dregs of any [western] society it paints a fairly bleak picture.

I could do the same thing with the UK; be that the endless whining sounds emanating from the PC brigade- with the mainstream media lapping it up and resultantly coarcing spineless members of parliament into whatever resource draining agenda that slithers out from Brussels.
Or our MPs themselves being somewhat more interesting in lining their own pockets, and that of the super rich than actually running the damn country- at the expense of those who work for a living.
Not forgetting the benefits system which pays out more than a regular job and inherently encourages such laziness to start with.
 
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The trick to being successful is to blame the government :p Everyone knows Obama and Ted Cruz are part of the Illuminati, along with Eloraam, Apple Inc, Curse and Skrillex.

(edit to avoid a double-post) Anybody know stable/playable RotaryCraft is for 1.4.7?
 
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Okay, as an American I can say that this is pretty far off base.

A) The wage gaps are present between those who work hard / have an education and those who don't want to work hard / get an education. Yes, there are exceptions as always, but that is overwhelmingly the case.
B) In some cases, yes. Not all though.
C) This is false. Absolutely false. People here don't want the government to help, but will harass each other when they refuse to do community service. It's a mentality of not relying on the government to hand things out and rather that it's the responsibility of everyone to help those in need.
D) This is true of a minority, not all. This is like judging every single citizen in America based on what you see coming out of Hollywood.
E) Again, false. Every single financial planning thing I've been at (and I've seen something like 10-15 at this point) they highly recommend never doing this. Again, it's a small minority.
I can say with some degree of certainty that you live in an area that is better than many.
For one, many of my quotes are references to real-world examples (for example, the "poor people eat nice food" is a reference to an infamous Bill OReilly rant and the "we pay you what you're worth" is a reference to the head of a big company advocating for paying the "mentally retarded" - his words - $2/hr).
Second, I have talked to people all over the US via things like TeamSpeak and places like forums, and in many cases - @1M Industries can provide one example, seeing as he lives in one - where there are large swaths of people who view anything short of what amounts to borderline anarchy qualifies as a nanny state. One guy I know - he lives in the backwoods of Pennsylvania or similar - has one neighbor who built an anti-Aircraft gun for "when the CIA invades" and another who is movie-style stockpiling fuel and other resources because he is convinced "the liberals" will invade within his lifetime. (As a side note, which also shows a lot about this area, his adopted Haitian sister receives daily death threats over her race).


edit to avoid a double-post) Anybody know stable/playable RotaryCraft is for 1.4.7?
Not very, but you can try. Do note that the vast majority of content was added in 1.5.2 and 1.6.4.
 
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I can say with some degree of certainty that you live in an area that is better than many.
For one, many of my quotes are references to real-world examples (for example, the "poor people eat nice food" is a reference to an infamous Bill OReilly rant and the "we pay you what you're worth" is a reference to the head of a big company advocating for paying the "mentally retarded" - his words - $2/hr).
Second, I have talked to people all over the US via things like TeamSpeak and places like forums, and in many cases - @1M Industries can provide one example, seeing as he lives in one - where there are large swaths of people who view anything short of what amounts to borderline anarchy qualifies as a nanny state. One guy I know - he lives in the backwoods of Pennsylvania or similar - has one neighbor who built an anti-Aircraft gun for "when the CIA invades" and another who is movie-style stockpiling fuel and other resources because he is convinced "the liberals" will invade within his lifetime. (As a side note, which also shows a lot about this area, his adopted Haitian sister receives daily death threats over her race).



Not very, but you can try. Do note that the vast majority of content was added in 1.5.2 and 1.6.4.
You want me to mention the guy who unicycles around telling anyone who will listen about how "the government is controlling your mind through tap water!!!" or the "Obama is not my president" bumber stickers? Cause that is on the mild edge of the scale.
 

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You want me to mention the guy who unicycles around telling anyone who will listen about how "the government is controlling your mind through tap water!!!" or the "Obama is not my president" bumber stickers? Cause that is on the mild edge of the scale.
"the government is controlling your mind through tap water!!!"
America's government is to useless, wasteful, and stupid do something like that. *wink*