Question about liquid tesseracts
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Tesseracts will output up to 1 bucket per tick, per side, if my memory serves me correctly. The problem you will most likely run into is that liquiducts may only transfer 160 millibuckets per tick per side. 5 sides of a tesseract will need to be used to take steam from a full size boiler, and the output tesseract will also need 5 sides in use unless directly touching some machine.
Well, I was just going to put the tesseracts directly next to the boilers, so this shoudln't be a problem right?
Also: is there a limit to the amount of liquid that can pass through an ender tank at once? If not then i'll probably just use them.
EDIT: Well, it seems i've got another problem. I've got my first 36hp boiler going, but for some reason its only producing 80 mb of steam per tick. Can anyone think why? Its getting plenty of fuel and water.
EDIT AGAIN: Apparently liquid tesseracts got severely nerfed, they can only accept up to 80 mb/t of stuff. Looks like i'm using ender tanks...
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN: It seems evem ender tanks can only handle 100mb/t. Sod it! I'll have to place the bloody power converter on the boiler itself.
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN: Even putting the steam consumer next to the boiler doesn't solve the problem. Looks like i'm using industrial steam engines...
If you put the tesseract directly on the steam boiler you won't get all the steam that is produced, you need 9 liquiduct contact points for a full sized boiler to output full capacity. Ender tanks will output 50mb/t per side if set to output mode, but I believe with powered tesseracts you can get the normaltesseract limit.
Boilers output steam into adjacent pipes or liquid inventories... each contact point will output 80mb/t. It only outputs when it has over half its internal steam tank full.
Liquiduct can at most output 160 mb/t. Much more than that can travel in the liquiduct pipe (if there is a limit).
The simplest setup to get all the steam from a boiler is put a liquid tesseract in the center at the top or any side, and 8 liquiducts around it all touching the boiler. So you get your 9 contact points and the full 720 mb/t can be transferred.
I believe the 1000mb/t limit is on the steam consumer side -- an output tesserect should be able to output any amount. If you use liquiducts as end points you will need contact points equal to your total steam / 160mb. For a single boiler you can transfer it all with the tesseract next to the consumer. You can have one tesseract next to two steam consumers and transfer up to 2000 mb/t. Pretty compact to have 4 consumers + 2 tesseracts around a energy bridge.
Liquiduct can at most output 160 mb/t. Much more than that can travel in the liquiduct pipe (if there is a limit).
The simplest setup to get all the steam from a boiler is put a liquid tesseract in the center at the top or any side, and 8 liquiducts around it all touching the boiler. So you get your 9 contact points and the full 720 mb/t can be transferred.
I believe the 1000mb/t limit is on the steam consumer side -- an output tesserect should be able to output any amount. If you use liquiducts as end points you will need contact points equal to your total steam / 160mb. For a single boiler you can transfer it all with the tesseract next to the consumer. You can have one tesseract next to two steam consumers and transfer up to 2000 mb/t. Pretty compact to have 4 consumers + 2 tesseracts around a energy bridge.
I have an interesting problem. Wondering if anyone can shed some light on what i might be missing.
Firstly, my setup.
I have a 36HP boiler with 8 liquiduct connections to a liquid send only tesseract (making it the 9th face). Fairly standard setup discussed in forums. I have a receive only tesseract on a Xycraft tank putting the steam in. I have a 5 connection output with liquiducts on the bottom of the tank (that's 800mb/t max which is higher than the 720mb/t output by the boiler). These connect to 5 faces of another liquid send-only tesseract which connects to a room with 18 industrial steam engines connected in parallel to 5 redstone energy cells. Those cells have send only energy tesseracts as well as conduit powering the machine room.
This all works fine when i'm logged in looking at the system. The cells fill ups nicely. I have a range trigger turning on a mass fab when the cells are full and turning off when the cells get down to 50%. All works fine when i sit there watching it for several cycles.
Both the boiler room and the engines and machine rooms are in a cb chunkloaded areas.
When i log off for a few hours and then log back in the cells are empty and start charging up like the the steam engines were not running at all while i wasn't on. The steam tank isn't any more full than when i logged off either.
I'm at a loss as to why the cells are so low. If I log off for a few hours, the cells are noticeable lower than they should be even if I disable the mas fab from running when the cells are full.
Firstly, my setup.
I have a 36HP boiler with 8 liquiduct connections to a liquid send only tesseract (making it the 9th face). Fairly standard setup discussed in forums. I have a receive only tesseract on a Xycraft tank putting the steam in. I have a 5 connection output with liquiducts on the bottom of the tank (that's 800mb/t max which is higher than the 720mb/t output by the boiler). These connect to 5 faces of another liquid send-only tesseract which connects to a room with 18 industrial steam engines connected in parallel to 5 redstone energy cells. Those cells have send only energy tesseracts as well as conduit powering the machine room.
This all works fine when i'm logged in looking at the system. The cells fill ups nicely. I have a range trigger turning on a mass fab when the cells are full and turning off when the cells get down to 50%. All works fine when i sit there watching it for several cycles.
Both the boiler room and the engines and machine rooms are in a cb chunkloaded areas.
When i log off for a few hours and then log back in the cells are empty and start charging up like the the steam engines were not running at all while i wasn't on. The steam tank isn't any more full than when i logged off either.
I'm at a loss as to why the cells are so low. If I log off for a few hours, the cells are noticeable lower than they should be even if I disable the mas fab from running when the cells are full.
OK, let me explain this setup because I've used it before.
The optimal configuration requires 17 liquiduct pipes on the boiler with the tesseract i n the middle of them. Place 9 liquiducts on the boiler, then place the tesseract on the middle of that protrusion and surround it with liquiducts.
Then, at your bridge, just have the tesseract sitting on a steam consumer as the steam consumer can handle 1000mb/t and the tesseract can output limitless. With this, you can support 4 boilers with 3 steam consumers+two bridge tesseracts, if organized properly.
The optimal configuration requires 17 liquiduct pipes on the boiler with the tesseract i n the middle of them. Place 9 liquiducts on the boiler, then place the tesseract on the middle of that protrusion and surround it with liquiducts.
Then, at your bridge, just have the tesseract sitting on a steam consumer as the steam consumer can handle 1000mb/t and the tesseract can output limitless. With this, you can support 4 boilers with 3 steam consumers+two bridge tesseracts, if organized properly.
This is wrong. Liquid tesseracts have NO output limit as far as I am aware. It's certainly far higher than 1 bucket a tick.
As snooder said, there is no output limit. My setup demonstrates 18 fully stocked industrial steam engines from a single liquid tesseract connection. There is also countless others providing demonstrations of the limits for these setups in these forums.
- unpowered liquiduct input is unlimited.
- powered liquiduct input is limited to 160mb/t
- boiler connection is limited to 80mb/t.
- liquiduct output is limited to 160mb/t
You need 5 values to pull out enough steam from a tank, but only 1 valve to put it in.
This is what I have gathtered from the experimentation of others on these forums and my experience so far. Of course the limits could just be really high but someone did test this setup with 8 x 36HP boilers as an experiment and found the same results.
EDIT: I should point out that when i added 2 more industrial steam engines to the setup they were also fully powered proving that the 800mb/t the output from the tank via the single face was indeed there. The tank levels went down accordingly instead of being balanced as it was with 18. Since the boiler outputs 720mb/t and with 20 engines I was consuming 800mb/t. When I then added an additional engine they stopping being fully powered, meaning there was not enough steam being transported.