Question about Breeder Reactors.

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Furious1964

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Of course. My setup above pops out something like 150 or more cells every cycle. Man I'm on my phone so you'll have to put in the numbers yourself. I think before I quit playing on that server I had my breeder outputting absolute max safe heat before melting blocks. Something like 73,400 stable or something. Check into it! The design for the breeder was in the second imgur link.

What are the devices you're using? Any chance of a breakdown of materials/machines used?
 

Siigari

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What are the devices you're using? Any chance of a breakdown of materials/machines used?

Sure, but it's been a long time since I put it together. First I used Routers hooked up to place and pull out specific items and deposit specific items. I used my ME system to craft Uranium Cells or re-enrich them for use, then I have the ME Fuzzy Bus pull out 100% re-enriched uranium cells. It then is told to deposit depleted isotope cells in the specific slots. Same goes for the uranium in all the normal slots for the others.

Test it in creative. Once you've got it working for sure and you see heat never going up you're good to go.


edit: Wait, I don't think creative works because it instantly re-enriches depleted isotope cells.

Test the ROUTING in creative.
 

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Ummm... last I checked, breeders no longer exist. It has been replaced with the multi-machine processing of the depleted cells, which is currently the only known source of Plutonium in the mod.

Condensators, in general, are a huge trap. Basically, you throw a diamond chest full of stacks of lapis blocks (no, this is not an understatement) at a problem, and you can generate some pretty impressive numbers. However, you need to obtain 10k+ lapis per cycle somehow, which previously meant UUM. That is... no longer viable, and an energy-negative method (meaning it costs you more energy to produce lapis than you get out of your reactor).

If you want a hugely powerful reactor, look up CRCS. It swaps out cooling cells rather than condensators, cool them in towers, and replaces them. You can literally build a reactor so powerful that no known energy cable is capable of handling the output, and it will even cause HV Transformers to explode, due to producing over 8k EU/t
 

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Ummm... last I checked, breeders no longer exist. It has been replaced with the multi-machine processing of the depleted cells, which is currently the only known source of Plutonium in the mod.

Condensators, in general, are a huge trap. Basically, you throw a diamond chest full of stacks of lapis blocks (no, this is not an understatement) at a problem, and you can generate some pretty impressive numbers. However, you need to obtain 10k+ lapis per cycle somehow, which previously meant UUM. That is... no longer viable, and an energy-negative method (meaning it costs you more energy to produce lapis than you get out of your reactor).

If you want a hugely powerful reactor, look up CRCS. It swaps out cooling cells rather than condensators, cool them in towers, and replaces them. You can literally build a reactor so powerful that no known energy cable is capable of handling the output, and it will even cause HV Transformers to explode, due to producing over 8k EU/t

Is there a video of the CRCS? And Breeders still work in Unleashed 1.1.7. For UUM in my test world, I hooked up 121 Ultimate Hybrid Solar Panels with 4X Insulated Cable to a Mass Fabricator and I generate 1 UU every 1.25 Seconds
 

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Is there a video of the CRCS? And Breeders still work in Unleashed 1.1.7. For UUM in my test world, I hooked up 121 Ultimate Hybrid Solar Panels with 4X Insulated Cable to a Mass Fabricator and I generate 1 UU every 1.25 Seconds
If you have 121 Ultimate Hybrid Solar Panels, then you do not need any nuclear reactors.

However, even that is not going to keep up with the lapis consumption of a condensator reactor. Just so you know.

Also, Mass Fabricators no longer exist, it has been replaced with like three new machines.

I have a feeling you are talking about 1.5.x rather than 1.6.x here, in which case...

Nuclear doesn't really work all that well because of the copper required for the dense copper plates for the quad uranium cells. Once you crank that in and the cost of the lapis, condensator reactors are still a net energy loss.
 

Furious1964

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Yes, running 1.5.2 as Unleashed is that version. But I wanted to make Nuclear Reactors as I find I'm sometimes running out of power with all the machines I build in my survival world. I reactivated the Mass Fabricator as it doesn't require scrap use in my creative world, but have a Matter Fabricator in my survival world.

Now, do I need multiple routers to pull out items in other slots or can I use one to extract and one to insert?

Also @CaptainJack: Are the condensators needed to maximize cooling and minimize things going BOOM!!!? I know I have to pre-heat the reactor to get max efficiency, but will it hurt/help to have them? But I have a small question: When Uranium Cells are used in a Reactor, they become Near-Depleted Uranium Cells when the Energy is all spent, right?

I think I've figured out a way to have a sustainable Breeder Reactor to create the Uranium Cell that puts the finished product into a Nuclear Reactor or several Reactors.
 
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Furious1964

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Ran into a bit of a snag: ME Export Buses are pulling out the LZH Condensators too quickly and not giving them time to degrade to the level I want. How can I do that?
 

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Ran into a bit of a snag: ME Export Buses are pulling out the LZH Condensators too quickly and not giving them time to degrade to the level I want. How can I do that?
Pretty sure you can change in the bus' interface how close a match for damage value; wait for one to get really close to breaking, then use that as the filter, then tell it to match the exact damage value for pulling them out.
 

Furious1964

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Are you talking about a Fuzzy Bus? I've tried that and a Router and still it pulls it out too fast.
 

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Are you talking about a Fuzzy Bus? I've tried that and a Router and still it pulls it out too fast.
The precision bus should do what I'm saying. I forget the exact spot in the interface, as I've been on an anti-tech kick in 1.6, so I haven't had AE in a pack in a while.
 

Furious1964

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The precision bus should do what I'm saying. I forget the exact spot in the interface, as I've been on an anti-tech kick in 1.6, so I haven't had AE in a pack in a while.

No, it doesn't. Condensators went to completely drained ans they weren't pulled out.

Going to have to go with using Routers to put in the Depleted Isotope Cells as Export Buses place them in the slots for the Condensators.
 
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The precision bus should do what I'm saying. I forget the exact spot in the interface, as I've been on an anti-tech kick in 1.6, so I haven't had AE in a pack in a while.
It's actually the fuzzy bus that does what you're talking about

Precision does an exact match for the filter you put in, but the fuzzy bus does a range of damage values and you can set them to what range it should tolerate
 

Furious1964

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I tried that also and for some reason, it was also pulling out undamaged condensators along with the damaged ones.

OK, had to fiddle around with it, but now it works. Have Routers pulling and placing items into the Reactor.
 
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Furious1964

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I just placed 4 of them against other Routers and was able to insert Uranium Cells into the slots I wanted. I think Routers look for available machines in a certain area and attempt to access them if found.

So now I have Routers inserting items and Import Buses removing spent items.