POSITIVE opinions on the Mojang Acquisition

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moltenbrain

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You are always going to need some processing power on the receiving device for rendering and so on, but I agree that most of the load can be moved to the cloud.
 

ThatOneSlowking

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But, I've heard comments along the lines that the current generation of consoles will be the last that are sold as a unit that you run at home.

We are getting more connected, what if instead of the phone actually doing the work, it communicated with a cloud computing system somewhere and that did the heavy lifting? That's is where I've heard gaming consoles are moving towards. You basically have a dumb/smart terminal plugged into your TV, and all it does is interface between the TV, the controller and the cloud.

If technology like this comes to fruition, then your phone could be as powerful as a desktop computer (even more so), as it will have the heavy lifting done by a server remote. Yes, latency would become an issue, but with decent broadband, this should become less of a problem.
Isn't that what a server is? Does the calculations, but the coients are used for commands and renderring?
And sorry for being off topic, but I am amazed if microshit and sony figure out how to do that.
 

PODonnell

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The problem is how do you deal with the heat from the "mobile" device when you try to use it away from the dock? You know someone will try and then sue because of the 3rd degree burns...
that's why I'd say the mobile use would be neutured in standalone basically an extremley severe power saving mode.... dropping throughput to say 5%....... Though I'm sure there are some lower limits to the voltage drops you could carry out and keep processors running at all. Obviously it'd be a VERY bad idea to hack your way around that particular setting.

Anyways, I wasn't trying to advertise this monstrosity as the "next big thing" I was just brainstorming up a device that might... maybe, function like he described.[DOUBLEPOST=1411520457][/DOUBLEPOST]
But, I've heard comments along the lines that the current generation of consoles will be the last that are sold as a unit that you run at home.

We are getting more connected, what if instead of the phone actually doing the work, it communicated with a cloud computing system somewhere and that did the heavy lifting? That's is where I've heard gaming consoles are moving towards. You basically have a dumb/smart terminal plugged into your TV, and all it does is interface between the TV, the controller and the cloud.

If technology like this comes to fruition, then your phone could be as powerful as a desktop computer (even more so), as it will have the heavy lifting done by a server remote. Yes, latency would become an issue, but with decent broadband, this should become less of a problem.
Definitely more of a possibility, but I think such a system is going to have a VERY hard time competing with dedicated gaming systems. It may be an option for the console crowd that may allow them to upgrade performance without necessarily buying a new "box".
 

RedBoss

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The problem is how do you deal with the heat from the "mobile" device when you try to use it away from the dock? You know someone will try and then sue because of the 3rd degree burns...
Oh sweet tort reform. How much we DO need thee.
 
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keybounce

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Garbage collection is a non-issue. I don't think it's possible to get an intel-compatible chip with less than 4 total processor threads, even if its a 2+2.

That's enough for server thread, client thread, networked/backgrounded activity, AND a CMS garbage collection to run.

Garbage collection overhead is no longer an issue to be concerned with.
 

Hambeau

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Garbage collection is a non-issue. I don't think it's possible to get an intel-compatible chip with less than 4 total processor threads, even if its a 2+2.

That's enough for server thread, client thread, networked/backgrounded activity, AND a CMS garbage collection to run.

Garbage collection overhead is no longer an issue to be concerned with.

Those features don't operate unless supported by the programming environment. Note, I'm not saying they aren't, I just don't know that they are.
 

kaovalin

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While there are plenty of negative comments I could make, there is one positive thing in particular I could mention. It comes with a short story.

My account was hacked early last month. I knew it was being used because my skin was changed (I have a personal offline server in case the mc auth servers are down). I knew it was hacked because I was contacted by mojang letting me know that the password was changed, then I got a message that the email was changed too. It was infuriating that this all happened without any independent verification. Steam is great at doing this (even if sometimes a bother).

So I got on mojang's site and discovered I would need proof of purchase to get my account back. Since I made the purchase back in MC 1.5 beta I was in no way able to find any receipt of any kind so I had to contact a third party that I made the purchase through. Took me four days to get in contact with them (eventually calling them on the phone directly). Then I had to forward that info to Mojang and have them reset it. That... took... weeks. Two, but still technically plural. I was furious. I even turned on all the fiddly bits of my modular power suits to cover the shame that was my hacked skin.

Point being, if this was a M$ controlled environment this whole process would probably have taken 2-3 days to address and resolve. There may have even been better security preventing the hacker from taking my account to begin with. Thanks to that hacker, I'll never use password123 again. Now I have the capitalize the 'P', ain't no body got time fo' dat.
 
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