Pipe detecting?

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afr0

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Playing FTB Unleashed.
I was wondering if there is any way to pipe coal into the coal coke machines without the coal flying out if the machine is full.
So i'm asking if there is any way to have some pipe detect if machine full and send the coal to the next coal coke machine. or does anyone know any other way to have it move to next one if coal in that coal coke is full.
 

Riuga

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Applied energistics.

or insertion pipes and round back to chest or smt.
 

Bibble

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Alternatively, if you are at the stage where the assembly table is a possibility, you could use gate conditionals. I'd guess that the coke oven would have a "no fuel" conditional or similar. Link that to an autarchic gate to pulse when the oven's empty and you should be golden, without pipe loops, which can be tricky to control and cause issues down the line.
 

Riuga

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Alternatively, if you are at the stage where the assembly table is a possibility, you could use gate conditionals. I'd guess that the coke oven would have a "no fuel" conditional or similar. Link that to an autarchic gate to pulse when the oven's empty and you should be golden, without pipe loops, which can be tricky to control and cause issues down the line.

The problem then becomes this: When the oven is full, it stops pulling things out, However, the items already flowing in the pipes will get spilled out.

Trust me, I tried automating wireless EU transfer with pipes once and it was a nightmare. Thankfully Single-Pulse was added. Let alone boilers.

Therefore Applied Energistics would be ideal here. IF you can't afford it then insertion + loop back to original chest (still dangerous in some cases but meh), or hoppers.
 

Bibble

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The problem then becomes this: When the oven is full, it stops pulling things out, However, the items already flowing in the pipes will get spilled out.

Trust me, I tried automating wireless EU transfer with pipes once and it was a nightmare. Thankfully Single-Pulse was added. Let alone boilers.

Therefore Applied Energistics would be ideal here. IF you can't afford it then insertion + loop back to original chest (still dangerous in some cases but meh), or hoppers.

Surely for something with a long processing time like the coke oven, you should be able to run it either with the full pulser when the machine is empty, or single pulse.

The full pulser would work provided that the travel time from source to destination is not greater than the (3 minute?) processing time of the machine, and that the travel time is not sufficient for an entire stack+ to be pulled out.

The single pulse method would alleviate the "pull out a stack before the first one reaches it" issue.
 

Digdug

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If you have all your coal in a chest, why not have that chest be right next to the coke oven? Then just put a hopper feeding items from the chest into the coke oven. It'll never overflow as long as there's room in the chest (or you could even replace the chest with a barrel if you're concerned about that)

Now this doesn't work for feeding multiple coke ovens from a single chest, but it's pretty clean. You can even set up a waterproof pipe to pull out and void the creosote, along with something pulling out the completed coke, to make it completely automated.
 
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Wekmor

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Trust me, I tried automating wireless EU transfer with pipes once and it was a nightmare. Thankfully Single-Pulse was added. Let alone boilers.

Since boilers take items from adjacent chests it's pretty easy.
Have a gate on the chest with 'space in inventory -> red pipe signal' and a gate on your storage chest (or w/e) with 'red pipe signal -> energy pulser'
It will always have some items in the last spot in the chest, and the rest will always be full
 

Riuga

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Since boilers take items from adjacent chests it's pretty easy.
Have a gate on the chest with 'space in inventory -> red pipe signal' and a gate on your storage chest (or w/e) with 'red pipe signal -> energy pulser'
It will always have some items in the last spot in the chest, and the rest will always be full

I transport my fuel a real long way to it. by the time the gate triggers, half a stack is bound to spill out. And I refuse to void pipe it.

AE for Everything (TM)
 

Wekmor

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I transport my fuel a real long way to it. by the time the gate triggers, half a stack is bound to spill out. And I refuse to void pipe it.

AE for Everything (TM)

The red pipe signal stops as soon as the first item land in the chest and fills the space then. And unless your pipe is that long that you get more then 63 following it won't even spill any items out
 

Riuga

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The red pipe signal stops as soon as the first item land in the chest and fills the space then. And unless your pipe is that long that you get more then 63 following it won't even spill any items out

I'm afraid I didn't stress long enough. Plus it was all cobblestone pipes.

Other than that, my nuke went off once, vaporized the boiler (lit.). Rebuilt it. Somehow I forgot to put the extra bucket next to my Accumulator, it blew up. rage quit.
 

tedyhere

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LP pipes would be the way to go here, or heck railcraft unloaders. People underestimate the power of railcraft sorting.