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the_j485

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G, I'm sorry but your reactions appear to be a little... unnatural. It's one of your greatest friends, he's fallen ON TOP OF YOU, dead, bleeding on to you, by the girl you love, which should be causing HUGE emotional upheaval and you're just so... business-like. Same for Eric, really - your best friend was killed before your eyes by a girl you've never met.
 

GPuzzle

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G, I'm sorry but your reactions appear to be a little... unnatural. It's one of your greatest friends, he's fallen ON TOP OF YOU, dead, bleeding on to you, by the girl you love, which should be causing HUGE emotional upheaval and you're just so... business-like. Same for Eric, really - your best friend was killed before your eyes by a girl you've never met.
I could improve Eric, true, but for Simon... Simon's a bit of a projection of myself, in some terms, and in several situations I've been through (and I've been through a lot of terrifying situations), even when everyone was losing their shit over what was happening right now, I was keeping my cool and sorting out the problem only to freak out once everything's been settled. I'm not good at writing people losing their shit over situations simply because I don't know how it feels like, and it'd feel even more unnatural.

I'm sorry if I sound like a psychopath or something, but I just can't freak out when I see shit hit the fan - I grab an umbrella to minimize the amount of shit that's falling on people, and then realize what exactly happened when shit hit the fan once it stopped hitting the fan.

/metaphor
 
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ThomazM

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Sorry, internet in my dad's house sucks -I couldn't get a good connection since last year, literally. I'll be home by tomorrow afternoon, so, expect a reply by then. ;)
 

Nisteth

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Well he was attacking me...Also, it provided a lot of momentum for the story. Now Glade is running away...from everything. She has to face the fact that she killed him and hurt her sister
I'm getting cancer because of how much I hate you for just, in general, not caring about the emotions of your own character/others' characters, and more seeing them as pawns to drive the story. Sure, your character is all emotional over everything, but that doesn't mean that you don't have to be. You can be emotionally attached to your characters.

And yet I feel like I can't blame you cause then I'll look like an asshole, but honestly, this has a tasteful hint of powerplaying and it's pissing me off.
 

GPuzzle

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And I'm too nice of a guy to do anything about it, because the style of GM I've gotten in tabletop RPGs ends up being "sure, let's roll with it, and add that too!"

Goddamnit, I can't control anything!

Nisteth is right, though. I think that people only really start roleplaying when they fully enter their characters, when they start to feel like their characters. That's why nearly all of my characters are based on me - it's my comfort zone, and I'm not stepping outside of it without being careful not to screw up. And then there's the problem of self-insert, but that can be solved with a bit of knowledge about oneself. After all, knowing what are your limits, your doubts, your fears and that even your character might have trouble dealing with them is key to get characters that are interesting, after all.

It does lead to some weird moments, such as the fact that I act so calm under circumstances that everyone is freaking out, and for me it's something completely normal to do, and then a few days later when everyone's finally gotten out of "shitshitshitshitshitshitshit", I break down completely.
 

Nisteth

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Nisteth is right, though. I think that people only really start roleplaying when they fully enter their characters, when they start to feel like their characters. That's why nearly all of my characters are based on me - it's my comfort zone, and I'm not stepping outside of it without being careful not to screw up. And then there's the problem of self-insert, but that can be solved with a bit of knowledge about oneself. After all, knowing what are your limits, your doubts, your fears and that even your character might have trouble dealing with them is key to get characters that are interesting, after all.

It does lead to some weird moments, such as the fact that I act so calm under circumstances that everyone is freaking out, and for me it's something completely normal to do, and then a few days later when everyone's finally gotten out of "shitshitshitshitshitshitshit", I break down completely.
Indeed, but most if not all people I see these days that RP seem to completely ignore that fact, or don't have the proper emotional ties to their characters, and thusly, pretty much just act like emotionless assholes, like this is all some kind of chess game for them to watch and take advantage of the other people playing. Not to say @Strikingwolf is doing that, but he's starting to get there. It's annoying me a bit, too, cause it could be perfectly avoidable through putting more effort than just half an hour into your god damn character.

There seems to be a pattern here between most of the people that don't have experience RPing, and it's not a good one.
 

GPuzzle

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It's pretty funny, because Simon literally took half an hour to be made, but I just find it easy to run with stuff when I've got this idea in my mind.

But yes, it's different to every person. One of the few things I'm really good at as opposed to just average is writing, so for me it's very easy to write anything. And it might be different for you, Nis.

Ultimately the whole "do something" thing is simple: think what would your character do in that situation. Define your character in seven words, and use them as a reminder of what your character's concept is, and what would be an appropriate reaction. Simon's methodical, clear, great at formulating plans - but he's also willing to sacrifice what would benefit himself to help others: he's not going to break down completely unit he's solved what he thinks needs to be solved.

We might have to use this as a training RP, and go "alright, these people have now at least a bit of experience and knowledge of their characters: let's start again, with different people, different ideas, different concepts, and try to get it right this time" later.
 

Strikingwolf

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The fact is that is what I would have done in the situation. When I made that comment I was OOC. I removed myself from the situation; however, when I am writing the RP I can feel the emotions of the character. This may be related to my slightly split personality
 

Nisteth

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It's pretty funny, because Simon literally took half an hour to be made, but I just find it easy to run with stuff when I've got this idea in my mind.
It was more of an example of "when you spend literally no time on your character"
 
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Strikingwolf

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It's pretty funny, because Simon literally took half an hour to be made, but I just find it easy to run with stuff when I've got this idea in my mind.

But yes, it's different to every person. One of the few things I'm really good at as opposed to just average is writing, so for me it's very easy to write anything. And it might be different for you, Nis.

Ultimately the whole "do something" thing is simple: think what would your character do in that situation. Define your character in seven words, and use them as a reminder of what your character's concept is, and what would be an appropriate reaction. Simon's methodical, clear, great at formulating plans - but he's also willing to sacrifice what would benefit himself to help others: he's not going to break down completely unit he's solved what he thinks needs to be solved.
Everything I do in this RP is based off two things in Glade's character. The trauma she's been through and her fiery attitude. If you look at my actions they reflect that. Like I said earlier when I made the comment I was emotionally detached from my character. For example, in Glade's mind she sees this person as a threat. Due to her fiery nature she immediately punches him in the face. The reason I chose that characteristic is due to it being the antithesis of my nature. I can hardly argue with someone without breaking down. Thus Glade is a combination of that fiery aspect, her trauma, and me. She acts on her instinct, but due to that drama after she does it she immediately breaks down, unable to handle that she hurt someone again