Overworld VS Nether Quarries [Infinity]

[Gapho]

Hey guys, here's a quick question.

What's better for quarrying? Nether, Overworld or Deep Dark?

Spoiler

Deep Dark

Here are the results so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uKtHNeEolt6djzDbrBMD6JEhYbQFpmOkwOzWTQnG3qA/edit?usp=sharing
(all the end products from the nether tab are assumed to be put in a Red-stone Furnace first, then Pulv'd)

My guess is it's the Overworld since there are fewer blocks of air on average, thusly yielding more ore blocks, but then you miss out on that juicy yield of 2 ore blocks to the 1 nether ore block. There are more junk ores in the nether though, Amber ore blocks from BoP, but then you can get Pig Iron from the nether, something lacking in the overworld... If some one had the knowledge I guess they could make an ender quarry in each and see what'll come of each. (with a little math to break down the total yield and such) With the deep dark though, it only generates double the vanilla ores, so it's of little use to a mod-pack user...

After the addition of the Deep Dark in the testing, I have come to the conclusion that the Deep Dark truly is the best dimension to mine in. It has been said the the Deep Dark only doubles vanilla ores in FTB Infinity, but that is incorrect. The results have shown a marked increase in ALL ore and mineral yields in the Deep Dark compared to the Overworld. During the testing of the Nether I disabled ore explosions on the configs, real world testing may not be comparable.

The testing was done with an Ender Quarry with a World Hole upgrade and a x3 Speed upgrade (for my sanity). During the testing, I came to find that most sorting configs couldn't cope with the speed at which it mines (!!!) so I used an Ender Chest. Placing another Ender Chest in mid air, I put 6 Warp Itemducts from TE and 6 Resonant extractors on each pipe. This fed into a row of 6 Draconium chests, and several Resonant caches. the caches were to draw the stones out (with Sucction Servos from TE4) so that none of the chests ever clogged.

Power usage was not measured, but I assume it to be late game tier usage.

Here is the world if any one wants to take a lookie. (the ender quarry is on the roof of the nether.)

 

[jordsta95]

The Deep Dark is better
Or if you want to delve into RFTools or Mystcraft, you can get more ores in those worlds too.

But the overworld would be better out of the 2 you asked, although there are ores which can only be obtained in the nether, for example, firestone

 

[Gapho]

What is it about the deep dark that makes it better? Are there more ores? Do the ores spawn at any level? Do the ores from nether ores spawn there?

I think I'll test out these worlds, just do a 100 squared area and tally up the ores I get.
I've tried to make a sorting system, but an ender quarry with the diamond speed upgrade swamps it. I'm just using draconic chests for ores, minerals and other stuff, and resonant caches for stones etc.

 

[jordsta95]

The deep dark has more ores. It doesn't have nether ores, as they only spawn in the nether. But nether ores are rarer than in the overworld, and the deep dark is more abundant than the overworld

It also doesn't have dirt or gravel which could clog up your sorting systems, which is nice

 

[Baron_Falcon]

Nether ores gives nether quarry the edge.

If you don't have an AE yet try upgraded barrels. Filtering junk to a trash can also helps a lot.

 

[malicious_bloke]

Nether ores gives nether quarry the edge

Duh.

Without nether ores you get a bit of TiCo ore then spacktons of quartz and an unholy amount of netherrack. That is of...limited utility.

 

[Cpt_gloval]

an unholy amount of netherrack. That is of...limited utility.

Matter balls for color applicater and singularity.

 

[Baron_Falcon]

Duh.

Without nether ores you get a bit of TiCo ore then spacktons of quartz and an unholy amount of netherrack. That is of...limited utility.

Duh? He did ask which was better in Infinity.

I must be missing how to generate glowstone somewhere besides the nether. Im not including the laser as that is late game.

 

[jordsta95]

Duh? He did ask which was better in Infinity.

I must be missing how to generate glowstone somewhere besides the nether. Im not including the laser as that is late game.

Glowstone? You can make glowstone by tossing redstone in a mana-pool that has an alchemy thing underneath.

 

[malicious_bloke]

Duh? He did ask which was better in Infinity.

I must be missing how to generate glowstone somewhere besides the nether. Im not including the laser as that is late game.

Basically any vanilla item in FTB is renewable with bees.

And unless you start virtually from the roof, you are probably not going to get much glowstone from a nether quarry

 

[jordsta95]

Basically any vanilla item in FTB is renewable with bees.

And unless you start virtually from the roof, you are probably not going to get much glowstone from a nether quarry

Apart from cake v-v (at least, not without doing a lot of complex work)

Oh, and saplings/grass/dead bush/etc.

 

[Inaeo]

Duh? He did ask which was better in Infinity.

I must be missing how to generate glowstone somewhere besides the nether. Im not including the laser as that is late game.

My early game glowstone needs were more than fulfilled by my Witch farm (using a Witch Spawner, then later placing Cursed Earth under it).

 

[Baron_Falcon]

Basically any vanilla item in FTB is renewable with bees.

And unless you start virtually from the roof, you are probably not going to get much glowstone from a nether quarry

Isnt that where everyone puts their nether quarry?

 

[Tepig4321]

The real question is: which quarry is better?
Extra utilities
Mekanism
Buildcraft

 

[Cpt_gloval]

You can also double Glowstone and nether Quartz with the yellow botania alchemy block thing. A dropper and a vacuum hopper with a pool of mana equals infinite of both give a bit of time.

 

[RJS]

The real question is: which quarry is better?
Extra utilities
Mekanism
Buildcraft

I've never used the Mekanism quarry, but I would choose the Ender Quarry over the Buildcraft one for a number of reasons.

Firstly, you can Ender Quarry in the Overworld without leaving huge gaping scars that make the world look ugly. I tend to like quarrying out Hollow Hills in the Twilight, and the same logic applies there - I can rip out the resources without ruining the aesthetic of the area.

Secondly, last time I checked the Ender Quarry was more considerate in terms of chunk loading - only loading two chunks at a time no matter the size. Until about 7 months ago I was pushing my computer's limits, and chunkloading a Buildcraft Quarry would probably have made my game unplayable.

Finally, the upgrade system on the Ender Quarry is an advantage over the BC quarry, allowing for faster mining, pumping, and fortune or silk-touching.

 

[Cpt_gloval]

A BC quarry will keep up with a speed 1 boosted eu quarry block for block but that's it.

Never used a Mekanism quarry but from what I've seen, given enough power, it can out preform a speed 3 eu quarry.

 

[RedBoss]

The digital miner from Mekanism (that's it's name, not Mek quarry ) is awesome because you can auto target what you want to mine. I personally prefer the nether since I use the digital miner a lot. I can target specific ores and use silk touch if I have the energy for it. Once I have 1k or more of everything, I'll tend to use an Ender quarry in the Overworld since its passive and I don't really "need" to focus on getting tons of ores. I tend to hop around with the digital miner early on. When using an ender quarry, I define a large area and tend to just let it run or stop it as I need things.

I don't tend to use the BC quarry anymore because I hate creating holes. Also, there's at least a dozen, simple solutions to filter unwanted items so that shouldn't be a concern when automining in any dimension.

 

[Gapho]

Well I've done both the Nether and the Overworld, and I've tallied the results of the nether. I hope to get the results for both finished today, and move onto the Deep Dark.

Right, here are my results, infer what you will about them. I still have the Deep Dark to do.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uKtHNeEolt6djzDbrBMD6JEhYbQFpmOkwOzWTQnG3qA/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Type1Ninja]

I don't tend to use the BC quarry anymore because I hate creating holes. Also, there's at least a dozen, simple solutions to filter unwanted items so that shouldn't be a concern when automining in any dimension.

But world-holes are GREAT for dumping machinery into!
Seriously, though, the three-dimensional freedom of building is really great in a giant hole. You can go up, or forwards/backwards, or sideways... I know you can do that anywhere, but in, say, a hill, I might be restricted by the actual size of the hill.