Ore processing

[Niels Henriksen]

A bit of aluminium plate and you can make a windmill .

Ah... its ugly I was thinking of a Lightning Rod but stopped because of lack of resources... But maybe also make windmill... I soon have power from all things that can give power

 

[Niels Henriksen]

The indus.centrifuge looks like a good tin manufacturer.

And with Tin and Copper you will have Bronze.

 

[BlinkY87]

And with Tin and Copper you will have Bronze.

...and they are the resources most required, well, by myself, anyway.

 

[natnif36]

If one has even more power to spare, use magma crucibles on cobble to make the tin, copper and tungsten (and electrum) completely out if cobble and power.
Then use those mats to build things to make more power to make more mats to make more power to make more power to make more mats.
Then 1.x comes and you reset the world.

 

[BlinkY87]

If one has even more power to spare, use magma crucibles on cobble to make the tin, copper and tungsten (and electrum) completely out if cobble and power.
Then use those mats to build things to make more power to make more mats to make more power to make more power to make more mats.
Then 1.x comes and you reset the world.

I was up until 3 am attempting to layout a self sufficient crucible, magma engines, etc. Is it even possible?

 

[natnif36]

You mean have magma crucible melt things into lava an use those to melt other things?

That's only power positive if using Netherack (possibly blaze rods in 1.5?) and loses a lot if power if using cobble.

Netherack is non-renewable bar alkahestry and therefore this needs external input of netherack.

What I meant , was using the copper and tin and stuff to make, power plants, to generate power to be able to make more copper and tin and stuff to make more power plants.
Basically exponential growth.

 

[BlinkY87]

You mean have magma crucible melt things into lava an use those to melt other things?

That's only power positive if using Netherack (possibly blaze rods in 1.5?) and loses a lot if power if using cobble.

Netherack is non-renewable bar alkahestry and therefore this needs external input of netherack.

What I meant , was using the copper and tin and stuff to make, power plants, to generate power to be able to make more copper and tin and stuff to make more power plants.
Basically exponential growth.

Sorry, I didn't explain myself thoroughly. Here is a screenie of the setup:
I couldn't remember the names of the machines since it was essentially my first and probably last use of them last night.

The lava on the left was to get the ball rolling. I didn't have time to test it out properly. Half of the engines were full of lava, so I guess providing the engines at the back were filling up quick enough to compensate for what is being used I guess it's self sufficient, I don't know.
I then eventually placed an igneous extruder behind the one placed in the image, piped water into it and tapped lava from magma crucible, this way I had the block of my choosing. Without being confined to cobble.

 

[natnif36]

It's not self-sufficient.

If uses more power to melt the cobble from that Igneus extruder,
Using the magma crucible, than you get from putting that lava into magmatic engines.
This setup is completely and utterly power negative.

 

[BlinkY87]

It's not self-sufficient.

If uses more power to melt the cobble from that Igneus extruder,
Using the magma crucible, than you get from putting that lava into magmatic engines.
This setup is completely and utterly power negative.

That's what I thought. Like I said, I didn't have time last night to fully test it .

 

[BlinkY87]

Another off the topic question - it saves new threads. Is it possible to switch off machines like the squeezer and carpenter etc but still connected to a generator?

 

[Zelfana]

No, you have to cut off the power going into them instead.

 

[namiasdf]

Another off the topic question - it saves new threads. Is it possible to switch off machines like the squeezer and carpenter etc but still connected to a generator?

Nopers. It's really quite annoying. You can't just set up an array of conductive piping and throw a bunch of machines onto it, with a redstone cell as a power source.

If only they accepted redstone signals.....

Makes designing my workshop for manual projects.... Not fun, heh.

 

[BlinkY87]

Nopers. It's really quite annoying. You can't just set up an array of conductive piping and throw a bunch of machines onto it, with a redstone cell as a power source.

If only they accepted redstone signals.....

Makes designing my workshop for manual projects.... Not fun, heh.

It is. I expected a lever to work. Or even some sort of switch on the pipe, close to the machine, which interrupted the flow going into the machine.
I suppose I could just break the pipe, that's the easiest thing to do. I'm not taking 9 stacks of seeds out of a squeezer every time I want to run another machine.

EDIT: While the Stirling engine is fairly cheap, I wanted to keep the quantity of engines to a minimum. Well for now anyway.

 

[namiasdf]

Well you can have a redstone cell dedicated to the array of conductive piping that supplies to MJ to these machines, turn it on and off with a redstone signal. That's what I'll probably do. Just kinda sucks that I can't have it all on one single array is all.

 

[goreae]

What would fix this problem is an iron conductive pipe. That would allow you to turn on/off a line and even direct power to a certain point. I don't know why they haven't made a conductive iron pipe yet, honestly.

 

[natnif36]

Thing is, in BC 1.5 they have a new power system, with the different pipes holding different capacities of power, so iron conductive pipes are already used at a tier here, and using them like the item pipes therefore doesn't work.

 

[Philonecron]

Is there any way to automate smelterying without usig turtles or redpower?
In my NWMP world, I'm currently macerating + electric furnacing everything, because somehow I didn't realize the Smeltery could be used for mundane purposes. Here I was reserving it for alumite and brownstone (a great road material for a desert theme, btw), but if someone knows how to automate the thing, I'm all ears.