Ore processing

[namiasdf]

What I'm thinking of doing is having all four sides of my GT grinder made. Have a system of diamond pipes, etc. to guide the ores that I want to grind with mercury into into a dedicated mercury one, the rest into whatever.

With knowledge of exactly what can come from a quarry, create a sorting system that takes tiny piles of dust and autocrafts them into piles, then onto unbiased smelting (i.e. just a long row of furnaces, no need to dedicate them to a certain resource.)

Additionally, I am interested into using an ME system to automatically process bauxite, send the aluminum + titanium off, process cinnabar into quicksilver for further GT grinding. (I'm mostly interested in producing platinum from ferrous ores for the iridium ingots.)

And as an aside, I also wanted to look into automatically processing all the uranium I get (i.e. macerating -> centrifuge -> automatically refuel nuclear power sources, with the addition of a breeder.)



I guess my question for this thread, what are the limitations on what an AE system can do in terms of using other machines? I read that a blank pattern is capable, but how does this work? A detailed explanation would be great.

 

[BlinkY87]

From what I see on the wiki, you need to pipe it into the top of the compressor, can't be on the side as the compressor only takes input from the top. I didn't even know you could do this, nice.

EDIT: no bueno, it doesn't seem to work with any compressor type, at least in 1.47. You'd need to send the cells to a tank, extract the cells, then import them into the top slot of a compressor.

Testing this out now, it makes sense. Also, use this ice making setup with care. It is possible to create an un-loadable world by placing the pump on any side of the compressor, apart from the left (it appears). Placing on any other side crashes the game.

EDIT: I've tried this with many configurations but no ice making machine :/.


After more research I found out that a FE machine called the Glacial Precipitator creates snow balls, ice and snow blocks. It uses MJ, though. It still requires a pump but it's good fun

 

[Runo]

What I'm thinking of doing is having all four sides of my GT grinder made. Have a system of diamond pipes, etc. to guide the ores that I want to grind with mercury into into a dedicated mercury one, the rest into whatever.

With knowledge of exactly what can come from a quarry, create a sorting system that takes tiny piles of dust and autocrafts them into piles, then onto unbiased smelting (i.e. just a long row of furnaces, no need to dedicate them to a certain resource.)

Additionally, I am interested into using an ME system to automatically process bauxite, send the aluminum + titanium off, process cinnabar into quicksilver for further GT grinding. (I'm mostly interested in producing platinum from ferrous ores for the iridium ingots.)

And as an aside, I also wanted to look into automatically processing all the uranium I get (i.e. macerating -> centrifuge -> automatically refuel nuclear power sources, with the addition of a breeder.)



I guess my question for this thread, what are the limitations on what an AE system can do in terms of using other machines? I read that a blank pattern is capable, but how does this work? A detailed explanation would be great.

AE is your friend. For simple things like smelting and grinding ores, you don't need to use a pattern, just use an export bus and an import bus. You will only need two industrial grinder blocks to keep up with even three quarries, and mercury is automateable with AE in this sense as well since water and mercury cells stack. What you do is set silver, copper, gold, galena to one grinder with water only plus any ores you want to grind in that one. Then for the other you can put any ore combination excluding those 4 listed plus ferrous and sheldonite to it with mecury cells being pushed into the bottom. You can then put a level emitter on the ore export bus on the top for 1 mercury cell in the system to stop exporting if you ever run dry (easier to just keep a lot in the network using cinnabar smelting, IMO). Of course, if you're looking to make specialized grinders for the chemical reagents like sodium persulfate, have at it. I just haven't found it being worth the effort, especially considering its output is all obtainable through lava centrifuging.

The grinder is now fully automated, so you move on to the furnaces. One furnace can keep up with every single dust smelting, the induction furnace...however, AE can only export 8 and you need 9 spaces. I just leave 8 dusts in and switch out cinnabar for gold every couple days in the export bus, but you could always build two if you wanted. Make sure to force the induction furnace always on with a lever, and it will only draw 1eu/t while idle, platry for its 250 smelts/minute or whatever the outrageous amount is.

For tiny dusts , some guy in the thread mentioned the electric crafting table working well so maybe try his method. You dont' need patterns for a single part of this process if it all works out efficiently.

 

[namiasdf]

Excellent post.

Ummm, elaborate on the whole switching cinnabar for gold bit? Little confused as to what you're getting at. Why does induction furnace need 9 spaces? I thought it was two...

 

[Runo]

Excellent post.

Ummm, elaborate on the whole switching cinnabar for gold bit? Little confused as to what you're getting at. Why does induction furnace need 9 spaces? I thought it was two...

The ME Export Bus can only handle 8 item types, and there are 8 common dusts that need to be smelted on a regular basis...plus cinnabar ore. This makes 9 items to be smelted, so I switch the export bus configuration from gold to cinnabar every couple days to clear the backlog in two minutes.

 

[egor66]

AE autocrafting for me atm, needs at least 2 furnaces & pulverizer/macerators onlys so many fit in each interface, prior to this I used TE networking to feed/pulver/smelt/output automatically, there is no "this is the best way" its what you enjoy doing, & as you go learn the next thing or come up with some idea & try make it work, for me thats fun of modded MC, coming up with ideas & solving the problems as they arise, others enjoy mega structure builds I say cool, great, go for it we each have our own way, as long as its fun its all good, let no one tell you your wrong or noob etc, its a game & we are all learning as we go, the speed mods update change at could it be any other way.

 

[namiasdf]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Heh, okay. Same as the limitation on diamond pipes. The current item sorting system I use right now is an array of diamond pipes. Required a bit of organizational skills heh.[DOUBLEPOST=1372725647][/DOUBLEPOST]

AE autocrafting for me atm, needs at least 2 furnaces & pulverizer/macerators onlys so many fit in each interface, prior to this I used TE networking to feed/pulver/smelt/output automatically, there is no "this is the best way" its what you enjoy doing, & as you go learn the next thing or come up with some idea & try make it work, for me that fun of modded MC, coming up with ideas & solving the problems as they arise, others enjoy mega structure builds I say cool, great, go for it we each have our own way, as long as its fun its all good, let no one tell you your wrong or noob etc, its a game & we are all learning as we go, the speed mods update change at could it be any other way.

Heh it's why I love FTB. But hearing the ideas of others isn't a bad thing either. Take some or even provide better ones, we all gotta start somewhere and an idea is all it takes sometimes.

Also, I am an efficiency b----. Knowledge helps me reduce the amount of rebuilding I do because I find more efficient ways to do things >_>.

 

[egor66]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Heh, okay. Same as the limitation on diamond pipes. The current item sorting system I use right now is an array of diamond pipes. Required a bit of organizational skills heh.[DOUBLEPOST=1372725647][/DOUBLEPOST]

Heh it's why I love FTB. But hearing the ideas of others isn't a bad thing either. Take some or even provide better ones, we all gotta start somewhere and an idea is all it takes sometimes.

Also, I am an efficiency b----. Knowledge helps me reduce the amount of rebuilding I do because I find more efficient ways to do things >_>.

thats called refining

 

[namiasdf]

thats called refining

If you can save me a couple steps in that refining process, I can go do other things heh. =)

 

[natnif36]

Factorisations ore trip pileing is problematic because it takes 20bloody IRL minutes to work, in the crystalliser.

Mekanism, of UE does Ore tripling in a far better manner, also multi staged, but no stupid -
20 mins per 5 dusts crap.

One
Puts ore in a purification chamber, with 1 flint in the bottom (the bottom slot).
You then get dirty metal dust, which you put in either a crusher or an enrichment chamber to get clean dusts,
Which are then smelted.
Perhaps I missed a step, but that's the gist of it.

 

[immibis]

You missed a step in Factorization, which was "make tons of crystallizers"

 

[DoctorOr]

You missed the part where you build the GT Grinder instead.

In terms of actual flat out yield as far as I know factorization offers the best, you can get up to 5 ingots out of one ore with it but it is a bit of a pain to set up.

But this is plain silly:

Grinder 200%
Slag 125% (when it says "both slots" in NEI, that means something)
Crystalizer 120%

In a perfect roll of the dice, you will potentially get as much as 8 ingots from a single ore. It's not very likely. Or you could get 2 ingots from a single ore. That's a lot more likely.

Over time. Probability. Means you will get 3x return.

As for the time involved, in an automated process it's of little concern. If you think it's too slow, instead of standing there watching the gui, expand it.

 

[SatanicSanta]

I use macerators until I have the resources and energy to use GT Industrial Grinders.

 

[Zelfana]

Testing this out now, it makes sense. Also, use this ice making setup with care. It is possible to create an un-loadable world by placing the pump on any side of the compressor, apart from the left (it appears). Placing on any other side crashes the game.

EDIT: I've tried this with many configurations but no ice making machine :/.


After more research I found out that a FE machine called the Glacial Precipitator creates snow balls, ice and snow blocks. It uses MJ, though. It still requires a pump but it's good fun

Glacial Precipitator is like 10 times faster than the Pump + Compressor combo. I don't get why it's so bad that it uses MJ, you just make a Steam Engine and that basically burns the same fuels as the Generator. And then have a powerfree Aqueous Accumulator there to provide water for both of those, you have to make one waterproof stone pipe to reach both, though.

 

[BlinkY87]

Glacial Precipitator is like 10 times faster than the Pump + Compressor combo. I don't get why it's so bad that it uses MJ, you just make a Steam Engine and that basically burns the same fuels as the Generator. And then have a powerfree Aqueous Accumulator there to provide water for both of those, you have to make one waterproof stone pipe to reach both, though.

Which is what I'm using, now . I forgot to edit the post last night.
I have no beef with MJ, was just pointing it out to save an un-wanted frustration .

 

[Niels Henriksen]

With oreprocessing I have Industrial Centrifuge to collect Lava and create Tin, Cobber and Electrum. I have a macerator to crush obsidian for dust and then and Industrial Electrolyzer to split this up in tiny iron pile and silicone cell. The silicone cell i sent to Industrial Blast Furnace where its making Silicone for Solar panels. Now i have so much Silicone plates so I dont know what to use them for.

The tiny iron pile goes in my Dust Factory where its combined to Iron Dust and then to Furnace to be made to ingot.

 

[BlinkY87]

With oreprocessing I have Industrial Centrifuge to collect Lava and create Tin, Cobber and Electrum. I have a macerator to crush obsidian for dust and then and Industrial Electrolyzer to split this up in tiny iron pile and silicone cell. The silicone cell i sent to Industrial Blast Furnace where its making Silicone for Solar panels. Now i have so much Silicone plates so I dont know what to use them for.

The tiny iron pile goes in my Dust Factory where its combined to Iron Dust and then to Furnace to be made to ingot.

Nice post.
Can I have any surplus silicon . The indus.centrifuge looks like a good tin manufacturer.

 

[Bibble]

Having recently advanced to mid-late game in my ngt world, this was my path:
1) Smeltery. It has since become my favourite early game device. The lava is fairly easy to find in surface pools, and can be expanded almost indefinately. It's ore doubling which still needing to drain each block. Actually feels worth it.
2) When I get into a proper base (pre full automation), I switch to pulveriser and powered furnace combo, principally because I can put an iron chest and a hopper on the top and go do something else while a mass of resources accumulates.
3) When I get to quarry/AE stage, I've switched to a pair of induction furnaces (TE). The sand from the quarry is placed into a deep storage unit, so it never runs out of that, and I have a second as a slag fueled one, currently for gold, but I might switch it to copper, given the resources I am currently hurting for. Need to find a better source of slag, though. It seems that there aren't enough other ores in a quarry to produce enough slag to process the gold ores.

I do have macerators and induction furnaces powered by EU, but they're hooked into the ME interfaces, rather than export buses, for crafting. Might switch to EU completely at some point, but at first I was just using a basic nuke for power, which is fine, but a finite power source. Whereas for MJ I was using liquid force, which is both more plentiful and more powerful than any other fuel source, as far as I can tell.

 

[Niels Henriksen]

Nice post.
Can I have any surplus silicon . The indus.centrifuge looks like a good tin manufacturer.

The problem with my setup is all the magnesium i get - I dont know what to use it for... the air-filled cans goes to a autocrafting table to be emptied and then back to the Electrolyzer.

 

[BlinkY87]

The problem with my setup is all the magnesium i get - I dont know what to use it for... the air-filled cans goes to a autocrafting table to be emptied and then back to the Electrolyzer.

A bit of aluminium plate and you can make a windmill .