Nuclear power and advanced tech. The good, the bad, and the mentally unstable (aka the USSR).

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Pyure

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Worth noting that the ITER project is still not 100% sure-thing-win.

They have technical obstacles that they are "confident" they can overcome, but not certain, and definitely not certain at what cost.

Its easy to look at things like Hydrogen Cells and say that as soon as some minor quibbles are overcome it will become the Next Big Thing, but I'm a skeptic about everything; I'll save my hurrahs until they actually do it.

fwiw: my last 4 years were in the energy sector in the far north. We poured most of our resources into burning diesel, instead of wind and solar, because wind and solar projects BREAK and require MAINTENANCE and stuff which is freaking expensive in the far north.
 
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YX33A

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Wait. That's it?
As @trajing said, yeah, you run a heavy water extractor deep in an ocean. Which is so blindingly obvious I missed the connection too.
What's different about Heavy Water compared to just Plain Water? It's Heavy. That it. It's heavy and sinks more then water itself does. It's kinda rare, but just dive into the ocean and set up shop; it's all down there.

That said, as it turns out, Tritium is basically scifi stuff. We know it's real, but we know this because we've seen it... for tiny amounts of time.
 

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As @trajing said, yeah, you run a heavy water extractor deep in an ocean. Which is so blindingly obvious I missed the connection too.
What's different about Heavy Water compared to just Plain Water? It's Heavy. That it. It's heavy and sinks more then water itself does. It's kinda rare, but just dive into the ocean and set up shop; it's all down there.

That said, as it turns out, Tritium is basically scifi stuff. We know it's real, but we know this because we've seen it... for tiny amounts of time.
I actually thought Heavy Water was an actual fluid that you could find at the bottom of the ocean...


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Qazplm601

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Off topic, but you know when you've been having too much fun with the Statues mod.
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Also, could you tell me what your IGN is? (By "your", I mean everyone viewing this post)
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YX33A

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/devils advocate

Solar power rules!!
Discounting how horrible the production chain is(could only be worse if they used baby pandas as fuel for the mercury based coke refinement), I agree, solar power would be great. But Greenpeace wants us ALL to turn a blind eye to how they are made and ignore the glaring holes in their arguments for how dangerous nuclear power is.
 
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Discounting how horrible the production chain is(could only be worse if they used baby pandas as fuel for the mercury based coke refinement), I agree, solar power would be great. But Greenpeace wants us ALL to turn a blind eye to how they are made and ignore the glaring holes in their arguments for how dangerous nuclear power is.
I don't support Greenpeace in any way whatsoever. I think that once they've finished bitching about nuclear power, they sit in the corner and eat glue.

I just prefer an energy source that will practically never die out, hence why I love geothermals/solars/windmills. If any of those power sources run out, we are literally dead. Without a sun to provide eneryg for solar powers, life cannot sustain itself on earth. That and the fact that there would more than likely be a supernova that kills us all, but that's besides the point. And for geothermals to stop working, the earth would half to stop working. Again, we'd all be dead by the time that happened. I'll admit, I don't know what it would take for windmills to stop, by I assume it'd probably another apocolypse scenario as well.
 
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I don't support Greenpeace in any way whatsoever. I think that once they've finished bitching about nuclear power, they sit in the corner and eat glue.

I just prefer an energy source that will practically never die out, hence why I love geothermals/solars/windmills. If any of those power sources run out, we are literally dead. Without a sun to provide eneryg for solar powers, life cannot sustain itself on earth. That and the fact that there would more than likely be a supernova that kills us all, but that's besides the point. And for geothermals to stop working, the earth would half to stop working. Again, we'd all be dead by the time that happened. I'll admit, I don't know what it would take for windmills to stop, by I assume it'd probably another apocolypse scenario as well.
Sorry, but the sun is not big enough to sustain a supernova.
 

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Sorry, but the sun is not big enough to sustain a supernova.
Yeah, unless we force feed it more hydrogen, it's just gonna get big, then shrink again.
I don't support Greenpeace in any way whatsoever. I think that once they've finished bitching about nuclear power, they sit in the corner and eat glue.

I just prefer an energy source that will practically never die out, hence why I love geothermals/solars/windmills. If any of those power sources run out, we are literally dead. Without a sun to provide eneryg for solar powers, life cannot sustain itself on earth. That and the fact that there would more than likely be a supernova that kills us all, but that's besides the point. And for geothermals to stop working, the earth would half to stop working. Again, we'd all be dead by the time that happened. I'll admit, I don't know what it would take for windmills to stop, by I assume it'd probably another apocolypse scenario as well.
I agree, but it's still not viable. Both of them sound great, but both require rare resources or dangerous production, and while nuclear is both of those, it also is MUCH more powerful.

Now, as for an energy source that'll never run out, all we need to do is find a way to turn retarded posts on the internet into a net energy gain, and we will all have a TARDIS by next thursday.
 

Democretes

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Sorry, but the sun is not big enough to sustain a supernova.
Either way, we can't live without it.
Yeah, unless we force feed it more hydrogen, it's just gonna get big, then shrink again.

I agree, but it's still not viable. Both of them sound great, but both require rare resources or dangerous production, and while nuclear is both of those, it also is MUCH more powerful.
Nuclear power requires a constant supply of resources that green energy doesn't. People say we're not going to run out of uranium, but they also said that about gasoline and coal.
Has someone linked this yet? http://xkcd.com/1162/
And then you have thorium. Which kicks uranium in its bitch ass.
 
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