Nether lava pumping and energy

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MrKunji

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Does this setup works fine?
 

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Dodge34

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Somewhere over the rainbow.
I see one problem in your setup, you need a chunkloaders if you want this setup to work once you're back in the overwold because BC pump doesn't chunkload anything for you, you should take a look at the Ender-thermic pump instead, it loads the chunks it needs to work and only the ones the pump needs...
 
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I see one problem in your setup, you need a chunkloaders if you want this setup to work once you're back in the overwold because BC pump doesn't chunkload anything for you, you should take a look at the Ender-thermic pump instead, it loads the chunks it needs to work and only the ones the pump needs...
Also you don't need that BC tank as a buffer. The endertank is good enough. I personally like the one magmatic dynamo over using 4 redstone engines because it makes a super compact build. :p
 
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MrKunji

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I see one problem in your setup, you need a chunkloaders if you want this setup to work once you're back in the overwold because BC pump doesn't chunkload anything for you, you should take a look at the Ender-thermic pump instead, it loads the chunks it needs to work and only the ones the pump needs...
It's not shown, but the chunkloader IS behind the Ender Tank, and the BC tank buffer is necessary, beacuse the Pump keeps on drawing energy even if don't has work. Even hunting Endermen, I don't have luck, they rarely appear for me, but I'm fine with my Looting I Reaper.
 
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Dodge34

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Somewhere over the rainbow.
A better option than finding enderman go cave exploring and find dungeons, you can find some ender lily seeds, they take am extremely long time to grow (around I think 10 real hours), but you will have some ender pearls, beware that you can't use any kind of trick to grow them (don't use bonemeal, it kills them) they grow a lot faster if placed on end stone, you can create end stone with the TiC smeltery, some obsidian and some ender pearls (for 1 ender pearl smelted in the smeltery, you can transform 3 obsidian into end stone, just pump out the rest of ender liquid with a fluiduct with a servo into a portable tank when you're done since there will always be a leftover, but trust me, its worth the trouble to create end stone for the ender-lily seeds, they grow I think 4-5 times faster this way. If you're playing on a SSP world, just let your game run for the ender-lily to grow, if you're on a server, make sure the area is chunkloaded and if not your server, make sure that the chunkloaders stay active when you're not online (ask this to a server OP, they should know), a bunch of servers may have choose to disable the loading of chunkloaders when the players aren't online to reduce the load...
 

MrKunji

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A better option than finding enderman go cave exploring and find dungeons, you can find some ender lily seeds, they take am extremely long time to grow (around I think 10 real hours), but you will have some ender pearls, beware that you can't use any kind of trick to grow them (don't use bonemeal, it kills them) they grow a lot faster if placed on end stone, you can create end stone with the TiC smeltery, some obsidian and some ender pearls (for 1 ender pearl smelted in the smeltery, you can transform 3 obsidian into end stone, just pump out the rest of ender liquid with a fluiduct with a servo into a portable tank when you're done since there will always be a leftover, but trust me, its worth the trouble to create end stone for the ender-lily seeds, they grow I think 4-5 times faster this way. If you're playing on a SSP world, just let your game run for the ender-lily to grow, if you're on a server, make sure the area is chunkloaded and if not your server, make sure that the chunkloaders stay active when you're not online (ask this to a server OP, they should know), a bunch of servers may have choose to disable the loading of chunkloaders when the players aren't online to reduce the load...
I know that, but I need to craft the Nano Armor first, and I instaled Extra Utils a little time ago, so I'll find Ender Lilly seeds easier in Twilight Forest.[DOUBLEPOST=1389202305][/DOUBLEPOST]No, I just play alone, I'll open a server soon.
 

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Might not be a whole lot of point in using the magmatic over just redstone engines if you restrict the flow to the endertank by the duct. I dont know the specific values in 1.6 yet though. You should place the endertank directly against the pump to avoid bottlenecks.
And usually I think most will be supriced with how much lava just a few redstone engines can actually pump when running hot. Most sane size power setups wont need that much lava.
 

MrKunji

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Might not be a whole lot of point in using the magmatic over just redstone engines if you restrict the flow to the endertank by the duct. I dont know the specific values in 1.6 yet though. You should place the endertank directly against the pump to avoid bottlenecks.
And usually I think most will be supriced with how much lava just a few redstone engines can actually pump when running hot. Most sane size power setups wont need that much lava.
I do need the buffer because I'm using 6 Magmatic Dynamos to run my AE system, and Redstone Engines are slow for me even when they are hot, I'd prefer compact ones. Redstone Engines can produce more lag because they are animate.
 
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I do need the buffer because I'm using 6 Magmatic Dynamos to run my AE system, and Redstone Engines are slow for me even when they are hot, I'd prefer compact ones. Redstone Engines can produce more lag because they are animate.

Actualy flowing lava couses lag not redstone engine animation. I never had lag issue with redstone engines. The couse of lags is usaly lov tick rate. Some crazy contraption or a bug in a mod can couse it, due to block update. I had a lag with quarry and water. I put water in BC quarry and then i cleared the water source block after quarry finished. It turned out that water coused a lot of block updates and coused lag.

With your contraption pump will take lava source block and will couse block update to nerby blocks. In your case it will be lava. Then lava will spread and couse more block updates, and it will couse lag.
 

PierceSG

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Should use Ender-Thermic Pump instead if lag issue is of concern unless you do not have enough ender pearls yet. :)
 

HeffronCM

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You should adjust that. They are far superior for your world and server to regular pumps when collecting lava, to the extent that I disallow Buildcraft pumps in the Nether entirely.
 
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I don't like the Ender-Thermic Pump, I don't know why .-.
You're delusional. The ender-thermic pump is extremely useful.
  1. It doesn't have to be directly over lava. Just 1 block above it. Not even that close to the lava lake.
  2. It auto-chunkloads. You don't have to add a chunkloader and all the chunks it is drawing lava from will be chunkloaded as they're used.
  3. It's cheaper than making a pump and chunkloader seperate.
  4. It saves lag by turning lava into stone instead of letting the stupid stuff render. Fun fact: lava rendering is one of the worst sources of lag in Minecraft.
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MrKunji

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You're delusional. The ender-thermic pump is extremely useful.
  1. It doesn't have to be directly over lava. Just 1 block above it. Not even that close to the lava lake.
  2. It auto-chunkloads. You don't have to add a chunkloader and all the chunks it is drawing lava from will be chunkloaded as they're used.
  3. It's cheaper than making a pump and chunkloader seperate.
  4. It saves lag by turning lava into stone instead of letting the stupid stuff render. Fun fact: lava rendering is one of the worst sources of lag in Minecraft.
I'd prefer to to save my diamonds. And I don't feel much the lag from the Pump, I'm fine with it. Stop sugesting the Ender-Thermic, I'll use it only in the next world.
 

DriftinFool

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You could make it a little simpler. Put the magmatic dynamo's side against the side of the pump. The pump will fill it just like it does the ender tank. Then you only need 2 energy conduits to connect the engine to the pump and no pipes or tanks. Either way, it will work fine. I have always used a single magmatic engine over redstone engines for pumping lava since you have the lava right there.

To everyone screaming about the ender pump. Doesn't really matter what pump you use. The lag from lava is only an issue when it is being rendered if you are in SSP. One pump running in the nether with no one around is not gonna make or break a PC. If you are really concerned about lag on a server, make people build everything they would need to pump and transport lava from the nether and then trade them a creative portable tank of Lava from TE. They won't be able to drain it to abuse it for something else like fuel and it keeps the Nether from even being loaded unless a player is there. Beyond having to move a pump occasionally, isn't lava basically infinite?
 

VapourDrive

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I found for me it feels way more balanced allowing the enderthermic pump to only work in the overworld; it means I can still pump out large amounts of lava but I no longer view it as an "infinite resource". The BC pump does also auto-chunkload now (iirc).
I am a little bit surprised that you show so much concern about the lag caused by the animation of the engines but not the lag from the flowing lava but I never force my playing style on others.
I do have a suggestion:
Use BC gate logic to send out a redstone signal when the tank is full to turn off the magmatic dynamo, this requires structure pipes but works quite well.