My Support of developers - Read before you judge

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So I was doing updates to my mod pack when I stopped by @XCompWiz 's forum and saw a recent post by a not worth mentioning player that after all the time I have been playing Minecraft and modded and seeing the vocal minority and the way they treat devs, decided I had enough and replied (not something i usually do).

The original thread for those interested was http://binarymage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2357 but I will post my rant here as I feel the more exposure it has to those ungrateful players the better.

It IS a wall-o-text I will warn ahead, but please take the time to read and know Mod Devs, that while the majority of us are silent, that it is highly likely this is the same feeling they have as well Below is word-for-word what I said on his forum):

For what it is worth from a modpack creator...

Permissions may not be neccesary...tekkit seems to think that way...But mod developers invest a lot of their free time, resources and their sanity making something wonderful that they believe in and love in the hopes that people will think much the same they do when the final product is created.

At a minimum having people request permission to include a mod in a pack that will be widely distributed (aka public modpack) helps to bolster their desire to make their mod since they see people wanting it. At a maximum there are minor revenue streams from downloading mods (adfly being the most common) that pays very little, but at least it's something for their time and effort and modpacks bypass that and public packs expand that exponentially because the pack is open for the masses rather than just a small group on a private pack.

Strict permissions ensure a few things from what I have seen one of which is quality (such is the case of XCW) making sure every tom, dick and harry aren't throwing their mod into anything that loads, another is, as keybounce has mentioned, to try to minimize the help requests because not every single person who can point and click is making a pack without knowing how to troubleshoot crashes before crying to the mod dev.

There are more, for sure but those are the top two I believe.

Personally, I have no problem with requesting permission from developers, my pack contains well in excess of 100 mods carefully chosen for a specific theme and purpose and I have taken great pains to work out any bugs, report those that are actually mod bugs or cross-compatibility bugs all before even releasing my pack to the masses to minimize those cries for help while also letting the devs of these mods know how greatly I appreciate the work they do and trying to reflect that in the effort i put into my pack. It seems a matter of common courtesy if you ask me.

** as a side note - While you may be right on the compensation front legally, he still retains intellectual property over his code and concepts and if he really wanted to (at least in the US) could still pursue damages contrary to common belief.

Last words: I completely understand after having played minecraft and modded minecraft why so many good, hardworking devs leave, never to return, simply because of the vocal minority of players who feel self-entitled to use something they could never themselves EVER create on their own.

I apologize Admins and XCW, but this post really hit me at just the right moment because I don't see enough appreciation for what mod devs do for the Minecraft community and felt XCW should at least see from me how much his work is appreciated.
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Admins, if I am in the wrong forum, please move because I could not honestly decide on the appropriate forum but since this is technically discussing mods I created it here.

To anyone who feels their sensibilities are offended by what I have said...too bad, the truth hurts.
 
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epidemia78 said:
Drama monger. Dont care to read that wall o text, thanks. Doesnt really matter what you think, does it?
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I beg to differ, this is not intended to start drama, unless that is your desire. I simply felt that it was time for someone to "lay it out" about this issue and, for the most part, FTB seems to be a much more mature audience to post this.

This was also meant for mod devs, whether they reply or not, to see that there are those that stand behind them and their choices instead of the incessant noise to the contrary.

Besides, if you don't care to read the text, please do not call names for something you have no knowledge of what it says i thank you. (pretty much the reason it is titled the way it is...)

and to make the narrow-minded happy, changed the title.
 
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Seriously, no drama intended. Just simply trying to better define from a non developer viewpoint why things are the way they are. Not sure why people (without reading the content) are thinking otherwise. Other main reason I posted this here is because of the stand that the FTB guys take on mod perms so felt it would have been better received than the "other" forum.
 
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GreatOrator said:
Seriously, no drama intended. Just simply trying to better define from a non developer viewpoint why things are the way they are. Not sure why people (without reading the content) are thinking otherwise. Other main reason I posted this here is because of the stand that the FTB guys take on mod perms so felt it would have been better received than the "other" forum.
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I read the content. I've also watched every other permission "discussion" devolve to nothing but drama and finger pointing here. I'm skeptical that any good will come from a thread like this, regardless of the intent because of past events.
 
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Padfoote said:
I read the content. I've also watched every other permission "discussion" devolve to nothing but drama and finger pointing here. I'm skeptical that any good will come from a thread like this, regardless of the intent because of past events.
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There are six basic human needs. You already know the first five. The sixth is the need to point fingers and laugh.[DOUBLEPOST=1406172684][/DOUBLEPOST]
Not_Steve said:
You guys have any room? I want to watch this too.
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Sure! Carmel corn, kettle, or butter?
 
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Padfoote said:
I read the content. I've also watched every other permission "discussion" devolve to nothing but drama and finger pointing here. I'm skeptical that any good will come from a thread like this, regardless of the intent because of past events.
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Appreciate the input pad, but that makes me sad as well should that be the case here. Guess I can hope for better, but based on the very first response, you may be right.
 
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GreatOrator said:
Appreciate the input pad, but that makes me sad as well should that be the case here. Guess I can hope for better, but based on the very first response, you may be right.
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agreed. pretty sad that nobody can have a legitimate conversation about real issues because of a few select people.
 
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