Multifarms - Reed farms

[Jianwei]

As far as I know . Reed farm in multi farm needed manually planting soil and sugar cane.
And I got it powered by 3 biogas engine it works but the multifarms only cut on the very top of the sugar cane only

Example : a fully grown sugar cane is 3 block high . Multifarms only chop the very top block and leave 2 block staying there.

Is it a bug or does it works this way ? Cause it's my very first time to do reed farms
I was suppose thought it would be chop 2 block away and leave 1 block at there .

I'm using 15x17 size . I'd read about it . It's the most efficient size for farm
I'm using Magic Farm mod pack .

And also , it took me in real life 10hours ++
For not be able to tree breed leaves with bee hives drones and princess .
Vanilla oak + birch saplings makes silver lime sapling .

I even use automated bee breeding to try getting pollinated trees but it doesn't work .
Or does I do something wrong ?

Instead of it . I use apple oak sapling with analyzed with treealyzer . And silver birch too .
But still can't get pollinated leaves from bees .

I'm currently on industrious bee and along with some unweary / diligent and noble bees .

All questions above is under FTB magic farm modpack . The latest version .

 

[Conguy97]

It is supposed to work that way by only chopping the top reed.

 

[Jianwei]

Oh . Thanks for help .
Do you know anything about bees and trees ? That can help me ?

 

[Hydra]

Oh . Thanks for help .
Do you know anything about bees and trees ? That can help me ?

I probably could if you worded it a lot more clearly. Your text just goes everywhere.

Pollinating trees is just a matter of having 2 different trees next to each other, have an apiary set op for constant production (pull princess + drons out and reinsert them) and then wait a LONG time. Also; I read that in latest versions you can't actually see the leaves change anymore but have to get some kind of goggles but I don't know if that's true for the current Unleased pack. I kinda never ever want to go into tree breeding again.

 

[Conguy97]

To see the pollinated leaves you have to be wearing spectacles

 

[Omicron]

Spectacles or apiarist's hat. both can show the leaves. And yes, this is part of the Magic Farm pack you're using.

Other things that affect pollination speed:
- Area: the pollination area is HUGE. Look at how far away out your bees are making flowers appear on the ground... then double that. At minimum. Any tree leaves in that area have the potential to be a pollination target. Put your apiary in the middle of a forest? Chances are, half that forest is getting randomly pollinated, not just the trees you planted next to the apiary.
- Number of trees: if you now think that placing your bees in the middle of a barren plains with two trees next to them is a good idea, think again. Pollination randomizes any block in its area and checks if it is a tree leaf; then it randomizes a second block and checks if that is also a tree leaf. Only if both checks work out, pollination happens. So if you only have two trees, you have almost no leaves and a whole lot of air. Picking an isolated location is not a bad idea, but plant lots of trees!
- Tree species balance: if you have 19 oaks and one birch, chances are that 19 out of 20 technically successful pollination attempts will end up oak + oak, which doesn't do anything at all. Try to make sure you have a roughly equal amount of leaves from both tree species you want to cross.


P.S.: Your multifarm doesn't need 3 biogas engines. One is overkill already. I recommend you put your engines in a central place and feed into a redstone energy cell, and just connect a conduit to the farm.

 

[Jianwei]

You mean the thaumcraft spectacles ? Or if you mean by real life spectacles .

 

[Jianwei]

Spectacles or apiarist's hat. both can show the leaves. And yes, this is part of the Magic Farm pack you're using.

Other things that affect pollination speed:
- Area: the pollination area is HUGE. Look at how far away out your bees are making flowers appear on the ground... then double that. At minimum. Any tree leaves in that area have the potential to be a pollination target. Put your apiary in the middle of a forest? Chances are, half that forest is getting randomly pollinated, not just the trees you planted next to the apiary.
- Number of trees: if you now think that placing your bees in the middle of a barren plains with two trees next to them is a good idea, think again. Pollination randomizes any block in its area and checks if it is a tree leaf; then it randomizes a second block and checks if that is also a tree leaf. Only if both checks work out, pollination happens. So if you only have two trees, you have almost no leaves and a whole lot of air. Picking an isolated location is not a bad idea, but plant lots of trees!
- Tree species balance: if you have 19 oaks and one birch, chances are that 19 out of 20 technically successful pollination attempts will end up oak + oak, which doesn't do anything at all. Try to make sure you have a roughly equal amount of leaves from both tree species you want to cross.


P.S.: Your multifarm doesn't need 3 biogas engines. One is overkill already. I recommend you put your engines in a central place and feed into a redstone energy cell, and just connect a conduit to the farm.

That's a long help ! Thanks . I'll try to do with your method . Though currently I'm on forest biome . It might get pollinated else where . And yeah . I might tried to save biomass for other stuff instead of giving full biomass on biogas engine .

My Redstone cell always drain up pretty quickly when the farm doesn't need any more power.

 

[Omicron]

Both "spectacles" and "apiarist's hat" are items from Forestry. You can find 'em in NEI.

 

[RedBoss]

You mean the thaumcraft spectacles ? Or if you mean by real life spectacles .

Thaumcraft has Goggles of Revealing,not spectacles. Search spectacles in NEI

 

[MigukNamja]

That's a long help ! Thanks . I'll try to do with your method . Though currently I'm on forest biome . It might get pollinated else where . And yeah . I might tried to save biomass for other stuff instead of giving full biomass on biogas engine .

My Redstone cell always drain up pretty quickly when the farm doesn't need any more power.

Are you playing single-player or multi-player ?

If multi-player and you have a chunk loader in your base to keep thing runnings while you're logged out, you may want to look into using a Still and converting some or all of that lovely Biomass into Biofuel (Ethanol) and then feeding that to a Liquid-Fueled Firebox under a LP or HP boiler from Railcraft. If your power demands are modest, ex. 20MJ/t, then all you need is a 2x2x3 LP (iron) boiler and 5x or 6x Commercial Steam Engines. 2x2x3 means 2 wide by 2 deep (2x2 on the floor) and 3 high. The Liquid-Fueled Firebox is separate from the boiler dimensions and needs to be 2x2 on the floor under the boiler. The total dimensions of the firebox plus boiler is 2x2x4.

Note that boilers can be as small as 1x1x1 and as large as 3x3x4 and can be made from Iron Plates (rolling machine) for LP boilers or Steel Plates (rolling machine) for HP boilers. For many, a 36HP boiler is the unit of 'ultimate' end-game MJ power on persistent servers.

Biofuel (Ethanol) -fueled Railcraft boilers are incredibly efficient at converting MultiFarm output into MJ. However, they are only optimal *after* they go through a very expensive warm-up phase. Hence, they usually only make sense for persistent servers or else very long single-player gaming sessions.

Otherwise, if you're single-player, you may want to look into Combustion engines fueled by Biofuel (Ethanol). Combustion engines take more setup work since they can overheat (even when supplied with water !) and need to shutdown before they explode. Efficient combustion engine setups usually include Gates that can sense the engine temperature and shut them down before bad stuff happens. However, the benefits are also huge. Combustion engines are also very efficient at converting Ethanol (Biomass) into MJ.

 

[Jianwei]

Thanks . I'd got my spectacles and I forget to post here about it . Got many new leaves now without searching them in my BoP map . Though I'd found redwood saplings from my chunk . I also got some BoP cherries saplings .

Im on SP. yeah I do have tons of biofuel instead of biomass. About 8 tank-full of biofuel portable tank . Since magic farm has removed the valve tank .

And I'll do combustion instead . Since there's some lava mountain else where in my map. I'll pump them up and by using aqueous accumulator to infinite supply water my combustion engine .

Well . Thanks for everyone help ! Now I'll be able to start to go Age and start my thaumcraft over there .

P.S. I got one more question . I now have silver lime saplings . I try breed between oak and silver lime. I always end up getting another silver lime saplings. How is that so ? Is it cause it's only has 10% chance getting hill cherry saplings and the rest 90% are silver lime or apple oak saplings ?

Thanks once again in advance .

 

[Omicron]

P.S. I got one more question . I now have silver lime saplings . I try breed between oak and silver lime. I always end up getting another silver lime saplings. How is that so ? Is it cause it's only has 10% chance getting hill cherry saplings and the rest 90% are silver lime or apple oak saplings ?

Correct.

 

[Jianwei]

Alright . Thanks for info . I'll start thaumcraft in a bit . and try to make thaumbees . for better tree breedings