Mod metal block priority

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DonnerVarg

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I am frustrated with the way Forge and/or the current mods in, for example, the DW20 pack handle sharing metals and recipes for going from ingot to nugget to ingot to block to ingot.

First, what ingot you get depends on your smelting method. I can understand that, it usually makes sense that there's certain choices that come first unless the mod has a furnace in which case that mod's ingot comes out.

The real problem in my mind is that no matter what ingots you use, a given mod's block is created (copper, tin, etc.).
Then when you craft that block into ingots, it doesn't necessarily use the same priority ingot you'll get from a furnace or even the same ingot as the one from the mod the particular block is from.

Furthermore, converting to nuggets and back can change your ingot to being from yet another mod.

I love the ore dictionary, but handling conflicting recipes needs to be changed for consistency, basing your result on something consistent or a config and not whatever method is used now.

/rant

Anyone have a suggestion of what to do? (I am an admin on the server, we're actually in the process of moving to FTB and have only been testing so far.)
I had the great idea to auto-process incoming metals from ore to ingots to blocks and back to ingots on demand, but the behavior outlined above makes this idea very impractical.
 

Dafuq?

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Yeah same problem here, I guess the ftb team haven't found a way yet to completely standardize the blocks/ingots.

I work around the problem by using a factorization packager that gets fed by 3 chest/filter combos, so I can autosort 27 items in there. That's enough to transform all the materials that I get tons of, even with several types of the same ingot.

My remaining problem is that most of the metal blocks from ftb can't be cut with a handsaw, the only way I found to solve this, is exchanging them in NEI cheat mode.
 

DonnerVarg

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The forge lexicon from Omnitools is handy for one-off jobs like making the tin, copper, or silver blocks to use with a handsaw. And by packaging and stamping I can standardize what's stored, but it adds so much to the sorting process if I want to store things in block form.

The way I see it is there is one good solution, and one potential better workaround and I wish for them both.
First, I really wish Forge, a Forge mod dedicated to this, or Forge mods that have recipes of forge ore dictionary items which make forge ore dictionary items, would allow a config option to choose priority, i.e.: which item/block IDs take precedence in equivalent recipes.
Second, it'd be awesome if the Forge Lexicon could be automated. Pipe in IC2 copper blocks, pull out Redpower copper blocks. Just use a similar GUI which remembers your choice (or choices if many conversions can be done through the same block).

I wonder where I can suggest things for Forge and for Omnitools. (Looking next.)
 

Dafuq?

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Don't know about forge, but king lemming seems to hang around here frequently, so you could send him a pm...
 

DonnerVarg

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You know, I hadn't thought about this before, but maybe a mod to remove the recipes for all but one of each block and nugget? I wonder if Forge Lexicon will still allow you to convert to the other nuggets and blocks if crafting them is disabled.
 

CrafterOfMines57

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GregTech does exactly this, but considering you are complaining about it being a problem, I'm assuming that you are not using GregTech. Without the GregTech config file, the alternative solution would probably be installing an extra mod from here, an IndustrialCraft addon which should be able to fix your issue.
 

DonnerVarg

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I'm not using GregTech, but I checked it out in the beta pack. I figured it might have a solution, but I think there should be a standalone solution (not tied to another mod).