Methane Production

[Wakoo]

Can you make Methane out of sugar canes? But anyway, I can use this combination to have a super-hyper-mega fast farm =]

You sure can. Turn it into Biomass first and then use a still or a refinery to turn it into Methane/bio-fuel

 

[Shirkit]

As far as I know, Methane is not the same as Ethanol/Biofuel.

 

[abculatter_2]

It's not the same...

You make methane from sugar cane by electrolyzing 32 sugar into 2 carbon cells and 3 water cells. One carbon can be combined with 4 hydrogen in a chemical reactor to make 5 methane.
However, the process does take a considerable amount of time and a sizable portion of the EU generated. If you plan on using this method of power production, be prepared to fork out the resources for quite a lot of electrolyzers and chemical combiners, and I recommend you burn the methane in steam boilers and have the electrolyzers and combiners run off the steam directly using the steam generator upgrade. It's more expensive, but it will greatly improve your energy yield.

 

[DoctorOr]

and I recommend you burn the methane in steam boilers

Do that only if you're generating methane directly from some product. If you're electrolyzing hydrogen, then just use the hydrogen in the boiler.

Hydrogen is 2k heat, Methane is 3k heat. The EU generation is wildly different, but the boiler usage is almost the same.

 

[Shirkit]

It's not the same...

You make methane from sugar cane by electrolyzing 32 sugar into 2 carbon cells and 3 water cells. One carbon can be combined with 4 hydrogen in a chemical reactor to make 5 methane.
However, the process does take a considerable amount of time and a sizable portion of the EU generated. If you plan on using this method of power production, be prepared to fork out the resources for quite a lot of electrolyzers and chemical combiners, and I recommend you burn the methane in steam boilers and have the electrolyzers and combiners run off the steam directly using the steam generator upgrade. It's more expensive, but it will greatly improve your energy yield.

But to make the Hydrogen Cells you need to use EU to electrolyze the water cells, and that process is not loop positive.

 

[abculatter_2]

@DoctorOr: Combining the hydrogen with the carbon turns the hydrogen AND the carbon cell into methane, creating 5 methane from 4 hydrogen. This is 8000 heat for hydrogen, compared to 15000 heat for the methane.

@Shirkit: Um... Yes it is power positive...

EDIT:
Electrolyzation of water directly into hydrogen + the amount of EU consumed to combine hydrogen with carbon = 205,000 eu
The process creates 5 methane cells, which is burned in gas turbines will make a WHOPPING 225,000 eu, thus the process makes an incredible 20,000 eu!!!

Yeah, I was kinda hoping that Greg would've made this one more effective, but apparently not... Personally, I'd rather use the carbon to make carbon plates.

 

[DoctorOr]

@DoctorOr: Combining the hydrogen with the carbon turns the hydrogen AND the carbon cell into methane, creating 5 methane from 4 hydrogen. This is 8000 heat for hydrogen, compared to 15000 heat for the methane.

I'm fully aware of that, and for 112k EU, it's not worth it.

Instead, take 93k of that EU and make 4 more hydrogen. Now you have 16000 heat, saved some EU, and didn't fiddle with carbon.

 

[abculatter_2]

Huh... So that would actually make hydrogen potentially energy positive with steam generator upgrades.
In fact, it would actually produce twice as much energy as went into making it, if I calculated correctly...

Fusion boilers FTW!