for the most powerful wood farm ever. At the minute, i'm running an 11x11 MFR tree farm, using 2x2 redwood trees, which are turned into charcoal. It outputs enough charcoal to power (at least) 4 36hp boilers, probably more when they're all fully heated up. However, it only just dawned on me that tree breeding could give me some even better trees to work with. The sequoia trees in particular are enormous - 3x3, over 40 blocks tall. Unfortunately, I know nothing of tree breeding. How would I get a tree that has the best traits for wood farming?
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MFR I believe has a height limit of 20? So tall trees get chopped up to a point and the rest is left. Logger works fine on tall trees. If you go into the config for MFR you can change how tall a tree it will cut down.
Hmm, it seems a simple enough matter to get a massive tree with the right traits (extra saplings, fastest growth etc). Alas, I suspect a significant time investment will be required. It'll have to wait until I'm finished with my exams 
Til then i'll stick with redwoods.
Til then i'll stick with redwoods.You'll enjoy hearing that sequoias are in fact 4x4 trunks, not 3x3 And "over 40 blocks tall" is a very conservative estimate. They're unbelievably massive - as the tallest trees known to mankind, modeled 1:1 ingame, they might exceed 100 blocks in height.
And "over 40 blocks tall" is a very conservative estimate. They're unbelievably massive - as the tallest trees known to mankind, modeled 1:1 ingame, they might exceed 100 blocks in height.Are they? I spawned in a few saplings just now and bonemealed them to see what they were like, and they grew 3x3 and 40-50 blocks tall. I also ran them through a treealyzer, and that also said they were by 3x3. So how do you get these 4x4 giants?You'll enjoy hearing that sequoias are in fact 4x4 trunks, not 3x3
Unfortunately, sequoia saplings apparently don't work in a MFR planter. At least, i've been waiting a while and it hasn't yet. I suspect it won't work with any of these newfangled forestry trees - shame really. Are there any other ways of harvesting them?
Hmm, I notice there the saplings are called "Giant sequoia saplings", while in the version i'm using (whichever that is, in FTB ultimate 1.02), they're just called "sequoia saplings". Its good to know that they can be chopped by a SC tree farm, though I haven't get any experience with them either... so much stuff!
I think all Forestry trees are now bearing two-word names. Vanilla oaks and spruce are extended into apple oaks and red spruce once treealyzed, for example; the cherry tree is called hill cherry, the walnut tree is the common walnut, and so on. Since none of the new tree species he added was another sequoia variant, It's a pretty safe bet that the already existing ones just got renamed to fit the theme (and quite obviously rebalanced).
I'm just amused by the "tiny" jungle tree almost disappearing in the fog down below when Vswe is flying at the crown of the sequioa in the video
I'm just amused by the "tiny" jungle tree almost disappearing in the fog down below when Vswe is flying at the crown of the sequioa in the video
Well I guess sequoia's will be 4x4 when we get to 1.5.1 (though I suspect that won't be for ages yet). The amount of wood though... 4x4 and 100 blocks tall? That's 25 stacks of charcoal per tree! With just 9 trees I could fully heat a 36hp boiler! I can just imagine this massive array of boilers, all powered by charcoal from 1 farm... the mind boggles.
In case you're wondering why i'm turning the logs to charcoal rather than planks is i've heard the heat value of planks is beng nerfed in 1.5.1.
In case you're wondering why i'm turning the logs to charcoal rather than planks is i've heard the heat value of planks is beng nerfed in 1.5.1.
I see. Hmmm. It does look an awful lot like the sequoias in DW20's Forestry mod spotlight though (look at 20:00), both the saplings and the trees themselves, and the color of the wood.
Weird. Further research is required. *impatiently taps foot until he can get back to his desktop tomorrow*
I don't know where Vswe got that giant sequoia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoiadendron_giganteum) from. I removed the sapling from Creative, because I am not yet happy with its world gen (just a taller, thicker normal sequoia). The sequoia available in legit play is called "coast sequoia" and the one you know since 1.7.
I removed the sapling from Creative, because I am not yet happy with its world gen (just a taller, thicker normal sequoia). The sequoia available in legit play is called "coast sequoia" and the one you know since 1.7.Even more if you have TE installed and use the sawmill instead of cooking them up as charcoal.
Charcoal provides 1600 heat & cost (in TE) 160MJ to produce 1 out of a log.
Planks provide 300 heat & cost 80MJ to produce 6 out of a log.
Planks give 1800 heat for 1/2 the MJ. With a bonus of every 8 logs giving you a compressed sawdust block which you can cook for charcoal, giving a grand total of 2000 heat for 100MJ. ^.^
I know, however, i've heard that the heat value of planks is being severely nerfed in 1.5.1. If it turns out this is false, then i'll go back to planks.
I'll check when I get home and let you know. I'm on 1.5.1 right now and have a 12LP running on planks. For science!!!! And a reason to log into Minecraft in the morning.
how many 2x2 trees and harvesters you`re using?
from my experience 1 2x2 tree farm(3 harvesters, 1 planter and 1 fertilizer with ic2 fertilizer), with logs turned into charcoal, can sustain itself(4 generators, recycler, induction furnace), and 2 36 hp boilers, if 1 heated 1st, then second heated by overflow from 1st
I don't know where Vswe got that giant sequoia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoiadendron_giganteum) from.
There you go you heard it form the author, case closed
, I find tree breeding some what hit & miss but it not a thing I put a huge amount of time into, as the cycle time of cross breeding is so long, for me its setup xx trees plonk an auto refill apiary in middle & check couple of times a day, plant anything new saplings & .....But that said there is a so much to do, even on the limited hard mode server I play on that I am never short of tasks, the multi farm is a godsend for early tree breeding.
I case with all the awe how the hell & damn this bit is hard stuff, I would like to say I for one adore forestry & the latest updates, so Tnx Sengir for your continued & tireless work, & for the future, TIA.