Is it possible not to have a desert or cactus on my map?

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I need to find some cactus and can't find it lol. Been searching high and low. Is it possible not to have any desert or cactus on the map? Playing Direwolfs mod pack.
 

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I need to find some cactus and can't find it lol. Been searching high and low. Is it possible not to have any desert or cactus on the map? Playing Direwolfs mod pack.
If you go far enough, you will eventually find some, but it may take a while. Alternatively if you are just looking for the cactus "dye" to make water proofing, craft a Minium stone and place it in a crafting table (Or hit c, I think, with the stone in your hand) with red dye, and it should craft another dye repeat until you get cactus green.
 

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The problem is an old one its due to extra biomes replacing vanilla biomes, this means that if extra biomes adds 10 more biome types in over writes 10 vanilla biomes this then means that you are 10 times less likely to find the one you want, the numbers are just for show I have not counted the extra biomes but a guess would be 10+, & we all have been in that position of looking for cacti for water proofing pipes, if you are using DW or a pack with ee, use the minium stone to convert flowers etc.

if not just keep hunting you will find in the end.
 

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Alternatively if you are just looking for the cactus "dye" to make water proofing, craft a Minium stone and place it in a crafting table (Or hit c, I think, with the stone in your hand) with red dye, and it should craft another dye repeat until you get cactus green.

Two other alternatives: Pipe waterproof can be made from beeswax; and if you don't have space constraints or gate needs that require Buildcraft pipes, Thermal Expansion liquiducts work better in most cases and don't require pipe waterproof.

Last time I needed a cactus was to make cyan dye for a forge lexicon. An alternative to that would be to breed cyazint with IC2's crop system, which is a pain, but it'd at least get you there.
 

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I need to find some cactus and can't find it lol. Been searching high and low. Is it possible not to have any desert or cactus on the map? Playing Direwolfs mod pack.
The map is so fantasmagorically large that the chance of there being no deserts is effectively zero. You might, however, have to go a long long way to find one! You can use EE (Minium Stone) to make Cactus Green though if that's what you're after. The stone will cycle through all the dye types including ink sacs.
 
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The problem is an old one its due to extra biomes replacing vanilla biomes, this means that if extra biomes adds 10 more biome types in over writes 10 vanilla biomes this then means that you are 10 times less likely to find the one you want, the numbers are just for show I have not counted the extra biomes but a guess would be 10+, & we all have been in that position of looking for cacti for water proofing pipes, if you are using DW or a pack with ee, use the minium stone to convert flowers etc.

if not just keep hunting you will find in the end.

Not quite. The extra biomes types don't replace any vanilla types. Both are sort of added to a list. When the random generation occurs, it thinks: ok, I need to create this new chunk. Step 1, what biome(s) should it be? It then looks through the list and picks.

The problem is that the more biomes you have, the odds of getting any 1 decrease. So, if there were 10 biomes ( assuming an even odds for each biome ), then a random chunk would have a 1 in 10 chance of being that biome. If there's 50, it's a 1 in 50 chance...which is getting to be pretty poor odds.

This is compounded by the fact that it isn't a simple per chunk choice. Biomes usually aren't a single chunk in size. Instead, they are quite large. If the average biome was something like 200 chunks, and there were 50 biomes, that would give you an area of 10,000 chunks to have 1 of each biome. So, on average you would be looking at an area of 100x100 chunks to find just 1 instance of your given biome. That's 1.6KM x 1.6KM. Add in having a little bit of bad luck, and you could easily be looking at substantially more than that. In fact, even if you ran straight for 114 new biomes, there's still a nearly 10% chance you would not have hit a given biome.

Note: All of these numbers are random ones picked to show my example. They are not the actual numbers.

Something I can do to help though: Don't run through the middle of biomes. Biome lines often meet up, so follow the lines.

PS: On the size of the map. It's something like 1/8 the size of the surface of the Earth. Yea, it really is gigantic. You could fly for weeks before you would hit the edge. Even in the nether we are talking a large amount of time to get there.

FYI: A block is 1m by 1m. ( just over 3 ft x 3ft )
 
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Two other alternatives: Pipe waterproof can be made from beeswax; and if you don't have space constraints or gate needs that require Buildcraft pipes, Thermal Expansion liquiducts work better in most cases and don't require pipe waterproof.

Last time I needed a cactus was to make cyan dye for a forge lexicon. An alternative to that would be to breed cyazint with IC2's crop system, which is a pain, but it'd at least get you there.

True, but I wasn't sure why the OP wanted cactus, also, he's been posting a bunch of "how do I..." threads so I really didn't want to overwhelm him with options.

As a personal opinion the beeswax route is more of a pain unless you have bees already. Of course by the time I have bee production going, I don't need water proofing(liquiducts).
 

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LOL I give up I was out there looking for 2 hours real time and nothing except tiny cactuses. And I need 3 more Shards of minium. Whats mobs drop them most?

Oh I just saw that I can use tiny cactus' . I get the cactus paste but then what do I do?
 

Antmf

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Wow I figured it out. I need to smelt 4 of them lol. Wow what a noob... But I didnt realize I could use them so now I have to go all the way back and get a ton lol... In my initial run for cactus I died 4 times in quicksand 3 times by zombies lol ... Did I tell you guys I love this game... :) Reminds me of the death runs back in the old Everquest days...
 

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I know you have it all worked out already, but with some gumption you can make cactus out of uu matter.
 

Bihlbo

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Oh yeah usually I have UU matter before water
Water? What does that have to do with anything? You don't need a cactus for water. And you don't need water or a cactus to make an MFE, some generators, and a mass fab - all of which takes less time than running straight east for 10 kilometers in hopes of seeing a cactus.
 

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Just assuming OP means water, it was a generic term for any liquid. Motherfreaking sheesh
Oh I gotcha. The OP didn't say why he wanted cactus, so water didn't have anything to do with his question. Later posts assumed pipe waterproofing as one reason why he might be looking for it, but it was also assumed he just wanted to dye something, so I didn't bother addressing the end result.
 

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Last time I needed a cactus was to make cyan dye for a forge lexicon. An alternative to that would be to breed cyazint with IC2's crop system, which is a pain, but it'd at least get you there.

I went 4k block radius around our spawn and still didn't find a desert. Twilight Forest eventually came to my rescue with a cyan ram. :D