I did bee math! (Now with more usability!)

[CaseyRobinson]

I spot checked a couple of the queens before posting, and they were fastest speed. I think most of them were made by cloning the line so they should all be the same, but it is possible that I screwed that up. I'll check them all when I get home tonight. And that they have/get frames, because your right, if that assumption is not valid the whole thing falls apart.

My other theory, that's founded on nothing but random speculation and a vague memory of a post I maybe saw one time, is that frame housings use up frames quicker than apiaries. But if that was the case it would be mentioned somewhere.

 

[CaseyRobinson]

So it looks like untreated frames last 16 bee-ticks in frame housings. Which would explain why the math doesn't come out like I thought it would.

 

[SmokeLuvr1971]

Milaha, thanks for putting all this info together into a very useful tool.

Might you/or anyone be inclined to answer a question regarding lifespan? I thought I could build an alveary construct to emulate the effect of the oblivion frame (reduce lifespan to a single bee tick) and also avoid producing swarmers. Reviewed the maths concerned and determined I could use 6 frame housings using chocolate frames and avoid swarmers. This should reduce bee lifespan to 1/64th of normal. Tested using bees with short lifespan (20 bee ticks). If my maths are correct, 1/64th of 20 is less than one, thus a short lifespan queen in an alveary with 6 chocolate frames should only live 27.5 seconds.

However, in testing, these queens are living roughly 410 seconds or 15 bee ticks? Am I doing something wrong or what isn't being applied?

 

[MilConDoin]

Milaha, thanks for putting all this info together into a very useful tool.

Might you/or anyone be inclined to answer a question regarding lifespan? I thought I could build an alveary construct to emulate the effect of the oblivion frame (reduce lifespan to a single bee tick) and also avoid producing swarmers. Reviewed the maths concerned and determined I could use 6 frame housings using chocolate frames and avoid swarmers. This should reduce bee lifespan to 1/64th of normal. Tested using bees with short lifespan (20 bee ticks). If my maths are correct, 1/64th of 20 is less than one, thus a short lifespan queen in an alveary with 6 chocolate frames should only live 27.5 seconds.

However, in testing, these queens are living roughly 410 seconds or 15 bee ticks? Am I doing something wrong or what isn't being applied?

Chocolate frames won't reduce the lifespan of your bees below a certain threshold in the MC 1.5.2 versions, no matter how many you use. Use a bunch of necrotic frames, and all is well. 3 are enough for everything up to and including shortened lifespan. For everything above that you need 4 frames.

 

[SmokeLuvr1971]

Ok, good to know. Harder to produce necrotic frames en-masse. But why isn't a single chocolate frame reducing life by 1/2, or is this part of the change you mentioned? Also, any idea where I can get ahold of some of some documentation?

 

[MilConDoin]

Ok, good to know. Harder to produce necrotic frames en-masse. But why isn't a single chocolate frame reducing life by 1/2, or is this part of the change you mentioned? Also, any idea where I can get ahold of some of some documentation?

http://wiki.feed-the-beast.com/Frames

 

[SmokeLuvr1971]

Thanks MilConDoin.

I'll also add this wiki to my list for FTB...wish it would stop growing

 

[SmokeLuvr1971]

Actually, not so hard to mass produce Magic Bees' frames! Didn't realize there was a recipe that didn't require the Infusion Altar for necrotic frames.