How do you house your dangerous bees?

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Katrinya

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This thread contains references to specific bee effects, so I've stuck the whole thing behind a spoiler tag to avoid inadvertantly ruining anyone's fun.

Before Extra Bees, I used to handle hazardous bee species by building a separate greenhouse, with an antechamber and a crystal chest containing my apiarist’s suit. The actual apiaries were enclosed in glass beyond the antechamber and a sign reminding me to suit up before entering. This worked pretty well for me, but dangerous bees from “vanilla” Forestry are limited to effects like poison and flammable, which you can easily protect yourself from by enclosing them. I had a quick look at the master apiarist’s database for extra bees (found at: http://www.whocraft.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=62&p=251#p251) and some of the effects are frankly terrifying. Acidic? Meteor? *Ectoplasm*? I don’t know what the hell an “ectoplasm” effect would look like, but it doesn’t sound like the kind of thing I can protect myself from by walling off my apiaries with glass. Nor do I want to come home from a hard day’s mining and find a smoking meteor crater or nuclear fallout where my base used to be.

So what is the best way to house extremely dangerous bees? Dedicated Mystcraft age? Subaquatic base at bottom of the ocean? Nuclear bunker with reinforced stone? Will the apiarist’s suit even protect me from effects like “unstable”? I was hoping to breed every bee species eventually, but some of them seem so dangerous that it might not be worth it.


Edit: Hmm the spoiler tag is behaving oddly for me... I only have ["spoiler"] at the start and ["/spoiler"] at the end, but I ended up with 4 tabs? The actual post can be found under the 4th tab.
 

Exedra

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Just inject them with an effect cancelation serum. Easy, and they can be with your other bees.
 

Hydra

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Just inject them with an effect cancelation serum. Easy, and they can be with your other bees.

That. And give them the nocturnal and flyer traits as well if they don't have it, speeds up breeding a lot.
 

WTFFFS

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Or you could just breed it out of them via vanilla Forestry breeding as well, I have non-creeper Austere and non-poison Tropicals ( breed specifically for later bees), though my Nethery bees I don't care enough to breed it out of them all of my bees are also Nocturnal, Flyer is one I'll work on in a bit. That I may use a serum for.
 

Katrinya

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That. And give them the nocturnal and flyer traits as well if they don't have it, speeds up breeding a lot.

Chocolate and soul frames are a godsend for the purpose of speeding things up. Extra bees really takes a lot of the tedium out of breeding.
 

Hydra

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Chocolate and soul frames are a godsend for the purpose of speeding things up. Extra bees really takes a lot of the tedium out of breeding.

True. Although 3 soulframes giving 100% mutations is IMHO borderline exploity. But with the amount of bees I guess it's needed.
 

MilConDoin

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It is definetly less than 100%. Maybe 70%-80%, since I had a few cases, where I didn't get a mutation.
 

Celestialphoenix

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Tartarus.. I mean at work. Same thing really.
Set up a gold gate next to the apairy, with contains item [queen]= emit redstone signal. and a redpower lamp next to it.
keep away when its lit up.​
You can also use the breeding/genetic mechanics to add/remove traits/effects as needed (so you can have demonic bees that heal you)​
Generally bee suits help- you need a full suit for some effects though. (bee suits take damage when in range- keep an eye on this)
Energetic/flammable- causes lightning strikes and sets you/the area on fire- build with fire resistant materials and keep a water source nearby
Aggressive/poison/ender- attacks anything in range, keep creepers away from the hives. Bee suit will help.
Ectoplasm- spawns green spider webs around the hive. annoying but you get free slime. (use microblocks to take up all the space)
Creepy/bony/rotten- spawns creepers/skeletons/zombies.
Unstable- wear a full bee suit- hive may explode if you get too close. keep all mobs away from the area.
Acidic- materials degrade to sand/gravel. Use microblocks or mod blocks (like machine casings ect)
Beautific- regeneration for 5-10 seconds.

---Edit---- full list of vanilla forestry effects. http://terpo.org/upload/mc/bee/beefacts.htm
 

Larroke

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I prefer to house the most dangerous bees in the neighbor's house... it just works well that way