Yeah, but where's the fun in that? I prefer completely self-sustaining systems, like Sugar Cane to Plantball to Biofuel to Diesel Generator, or the Rubber Tree method listed above.
Gregtech IC² Power
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That just screams "cheaty", which if that's your cup'o'tea then have fun, but it's uninteresting to me.
Well, I'll be. Confirmed in creative. That means any valid build with lava can do Titanium . 9 Reinforced (with 25 standard) can do chrome. The 9 reinforced and 25 (26 actually) standard can be re-purposed for the grinder and sawmill as you upgrade to advanced.
It's like, somebody planned this. Heh.
If you put methane cells in a railcraft boiler, you lose the cell. So the tin is gone.
Edit: Speaking of cheaty, if you stack casings correctly, you can run an industrial blast furnace and an industrial grinder on the same stack of casings. Build the grinder as normal, with a full layer of nine below it.
Top layer: 9 standard
2nd layer: 8 reinforced, with water in the middle. Grinder in the middle, outside the block
3rd layer: 9 standard
4th layer: Any nine casings you want. Blast furnace in the middle, outside the block
This gives a temp for the blast furnace of 1180 (standard on bottom), 1360 (reinforced) or 1810 (for advanced)
Methane has a value in boilers?
Whats the charcoal to methane process? I can't see any NEI process for charcoal that lead to methane.
I went through all the visible centrifuge recipes in game and rubber tree still seems like the best one.
For rubber you get 4 methane, 8 coal cells (electric craft to carbon fiber to get cells back), resin, and some plant balls. Only thing not super useful is plant balls -- can biomass them for some MJs i guess. Carbon fiber can help make many IC2/Gregtech block or compress down into diamonds. Saving your real coal for other duties.[DOUBLEPOST=1356935264][/DOUBLEPOST]
Methane is in the liquid registry, so can you save the cell using a liquid transposer or railcraft cart of sometype and then transport it to the liquid boiler or railcraft liquid tank?
In creative I can build a railcraft boiler and stuff methane cells into it and it will heat up. It uses the cells *very* fast on startup though. A 3x3x3 high pressure ran through four stacks before hitting 100degC. I'll have to try the transposer to save the empty cells though.
You can make methane with 4 hydrogen and 1 carbon cell equaling 4 methane cells. This loses one cell. Carbon cells are side effects of rubber tree wood centrifuging, or electrolyzing coal, ash, sugar, or charcoal, but hydrogen is only from water or bauxite in an electrolyzer
Is NEI not showing these recipes for you?
You can make methane with 4 hydrogen and 1 carbon cell equaling 4 methane cells. This loses one cell. Carbon cells are side effects of rubber tree wood centrifuging, or electrolyzing coal, ash, sugar, or charcoal, but hydrogen is only from water or bauxite in an electrolyzer
Is NEI not showing these recipes for you?
Yup yup, though some notes:
Electric crafting tables detect when a cell is used in a recipe but not in the output, and places the deficiency in an internal buffer, accessed from the sides when auto-magically accessing it, or from the bottom of the interface manually. (In other words, it lets you keep cells from recipes)
Also, although rubber wood does provide methane directly, it DOES NOT PROVIDE MORE!! then normal wood.
normal wood gives you 1 carbon cell per block, good for 4 cells, while rubber wood requires 16 blocks to give you... Less. I don't remember how much, exactly, but it's pretty simple to determine that 16 carbon cells from normal wood will give you more then what 16 rubber wood gives you.
Also, rubber woods drop less saplings, which can be macerated into dirt, the clay balls crafted into blocks and macerated, and then the dust centrifuge to give, among other things, aluminium. Costs a LOT of dirt, though, and if you get some decent mycelium production going it can provide a lot more clay. (You can't make mycelium out of saplings automatically, though, unless you can find a way to silk touch blocks)
How much less? Because you get 6 plant balls from every 16 rubber wood when you centrifuge them (and then another 2 more if you centrifuge the resin). It takes 24 saplings to make 6 plant balls, which is what you're macerating for dirt. (And centrifuging for clay?)
Does traincraft steel not work when you need steel?
Make a train workbench, then clay surrounded by coal dust (you can craft coal dust be 4 coal in a box in the train workbench as well and skip macerating/pulverizing). This gives you graphite (8 per craft I think?)
You then put 1 graphite on the bottom and 3 iron across the middle and you get out 4 steel dust, the steel dust then smelts into 2 steel bar per dust. I haven't tested whether this steel is interchangeable with the much slower to process blast furnace steel though.
Make a train workbench, then clay surrounded by coal dust (you can craft coal dust be 4 coal in a box in the train workbench as well and skip macerating/pulverizing). This gives you graphite (8 per craft I think?)
You then put 1 graphite on the bottom and 3 iron across the middle and you get out 4 steel dust, the steel dust then smelts into 2 steel bar per dust. I haven't tested whether this steel is interchangeable with the much slower to process blast furnace steel though.
The current version of gregtech has three new generators, actually. Diesel Engine, Gas Turbine, and Thermal generator(doesn't seem to actually exist even though his wiki talks about it).
The thermal generator is just a better geothermal, but the other two are kind of interesting.
If you have a nearby wasteland biome, you can centrifuge a stack of the "dirt" there(cracked sand) to make a fuel can and 32 saltpeter. The fuel can would normally only cover the cost of the centrifuging, however when burned in diesel engines you get a 25% bonus on them so it's a small gain. You can then electrolyze the saltpeter to make 6 nitrogen cells that can be run through a gas turbine and generate 60k EU each.
all in all, you end up paying ou 66500 EU and gaining 422500 EU per stack of cracked sand, and every 5th stack gains an extra 120k from the 2 leftover saltpeter. It's not something you can just do right off the bat, but it's still fairly early on.
The thermal generator is just a better geothermal, but the other two are kind of interesting.
If you have a nearby wasteland biome, you can centrifuge a stack of the "dirt" there(cracked sand) to make a fuel can and 32 saltpeter. The fuel can would normally only cover the cost of the centrifuging, however when burned in diesel engines you get a 25% bonus on them so it's a small gain. You can then electrolyze the saltpeter to make 6 nitrogen cells that can be run through a gas turbine and generate 60k EU each.
all in all, you end up paying ou 66500 EU and gaining 422500 EU per stack of cracked sand, and every 5th stack gains an extra 120k from the 2 leftover saltpeter. It's not something you can just do right off the bat, but it's still fairly early on.
You can use the liquid transposer on methane cells. This was actually brought up in another thread where a person made a pumpkin farm to turn into methane for a boiler. You can also use a melon farm, which is better than the pumpkin farm.
From his calculations methane has a value of 16000 in a liquid boiler, which is half of the value of the current biofuel, but can be more easily produced (I've yet to figure out how some people are able to fuel multiple fermenters with a single cactus farm as they have suggested, perhaps they aren't supplying enough power?).
From his calculations methane has a value of 16000 in a liquid boiler, which is half of the value of the current biofuel, but can be more easily produced (I've yet to figure out how some people are able to fuel multiple fermenters with a single cactus farm as they have suggested, perhaps they aren't supplying enough power?).