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Daihok
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Ok so i have watched a few tutorials on Gendustry and they just seem confusing to me. I am wondering how do i obtain better traits for my tropical bees? Do i extract new traits from the drones i have currently?
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Short answer yes. Let's see if I remember my terms correctly. But generally just take a few drones that have the traits you are interested in and process them in the sampler to get the gene samples. This will produce a lot of duplicates. But you should be able to take the dupes and run them through a furnace to reuse the samples. Anyway take the samples you are interested in and craft them in any crafting grid with the template to create a group of traits. You don't need to fill the entire template. Just include the ones you are interested in like speed and lifespan. Then use the imprinter to place those traits on a drone and princess.
NOTE: you may want to use the Genetic Transposer to copy high tier gene samples before you craft them into a template.
NOTE: you may want to use the Genetic Transposer to copy high tier gene samples before you craft them into a template.
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Daihok
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How do you get the higher tier traits like fertility 3 and 4? does the bee have to already have that trait? For instance i have like 50 tropical drones or so several princess and queens but they all have fertility 2.
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Daihok
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If you search the Google machine for "forestry bee traits" there is a good chart out there that shows all the vanilla bees and their traits. You can go hunt for and bread what you need, get them automated so you get lots of drones then strip them for the traits you want. If memory serves wintery bees also have fertility 4. Get that 1st and apply it to everything you make. Just remember to apply traits to the drone AND the princess after the 1st die off. Applying it to a brand new queen will not guarantee results.
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Daihok
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Ok also another thing, as far as addon mods go which is best binnies mod or more bees? Seems like they are incompatible with each other, Which the issue has been posted. Or as far as the bees go are they about the same?
Not sure on the newer version of those mods. Binnies adds another set of machines you can use for genetic manipulation of bees. But they are vary tedious to use with some time sinks built in as well. So I don't recommend using those machines. I did give them a go for 1.7.10 to see what all of the changes were and I didn't care for the changes even though I had them pretty well automated using AE2. But, I would think you should be able to add both.
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Daihok
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I know people say bees and stuff are tedious and a pain but really enjoying learning forestry and gendustry. I have always had them in all the packs have put together but never have even messed with them in any of the packs. Seems like a bigger learning curve then some of the other mods. I mean i guess its really Immersive.
More bees is kinda super-meh. If you actually have the option, binnie's is excellent. That said, binnie's may not be available yet in later versions.
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Daihok
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Ok so i had an industrial apiary going with some tropical bees in it. It has the jungle emulation and automation upgrade in it as well. It produced about a full stack of silky combs before i logged out of game. I log back into game now its telling me No flowers and wont operate. Any ideas why?
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Daihok
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Ok so i been looking for this chart that shows which bees have what traits but i cant seem to find it. Found lots of charts about the breeding of bees for different species though but nothing on the traits. I know this is sort of old but just curious if anyone knows link for chart with traits and such on which bees?
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Daihok
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Ok so got the traits thing finally figured out. My question now is is there anyway to get production upgrades and fast production trait without steadfast bees? Or is there anyway to get steadfast bees without going to the end?
Edit: Ok im still learning lol, guess i dont need steadfast drone. Cant remember what i was wanting it for oh well. Im a dork what can i say.
Edit: Ok im still learning lol, guess i dont need steadfast drone. Cant remember what i was wanting it for oh well. Im a dork what can i say.
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Daihok
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Ok now im trying for temp and humid trait, I have temp and humid tht says none. Is that what Im looking for?
not sure if this is what you're asking, but the temp/humidity preferences for bees are static for their breed, they don't change. What you can tweak is "tolerances" for those.
So if you wanted to keep something like Modest bees in a Plains home, you'd want to have -1 tolerance for heat.
@Pyure's got it here - the tolerance is how many steps away in a particular direction the bees will accept, from the preference they have. So "none" Temperature and Humidity means that they won't accept any temperature or humidity other than their own. The direction is determined by whether its "Up", "Down", or both. if it was "Up 2", the bee would accept its default temperature as well as two temperature steps higher. If it was "Down 1", it would accept the default and the temperature step below. If its "Both 3" then it can accept temperatures up to three steps up or three steps down from its default. The same thing holds true for Humidity - though I don't think there are as many humidity stages?
But if you want bees that are very flexible, "Both" traits for temperature and humidity are the ideal.