Fermenter & Accepting two forms of liquid

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Nemesis688

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Just pipe it in. The tank has to be empty tho. You canuse a pipette to get the tiny but that sometimes gets left over
 

lavarthan

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You can either pump it in with buildcraft waterproof pipes or place the cans in the machines. It is probably more beneficial to use pipes as using cans consumes them and you will need to create new ones out of tin every time.

You need a wooden waterproof pipe connected to your output source and a redstone engine working on the wooden pipe to pull out the liquid. From there connect the fermenter either with stone, iron or gold waterproof pipes. You should see the liquid moving in the pipes as you connect them. Note if you are on a server you might not see the liquid flowing.

Edit: As Nemesis said the tank also has to be empty in order to add a different type of liquid. Thanks Nemesis for the addition. And the Ninja'd post.
 

MonthOLDpickle

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Well my current setup is one fermenting with water. A second fermenter connected to a squeeze for Apple juice. Is there a way to have both water and Apple on second with some kind of service that is hey I detect Apple juice switches the water gets used that Apple juice goes in. When our water goes back. If not I am going to need a third fermentor.
 

Epic_Dave

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im sure you could in some way by going overly complicated with block breakers and what not.. but easily no.. because as stated even when the tank is visually empty by the indicator there is always a little bit left.
 

TangentialThreat

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Well my current setup is one fermenting with water. A second fermenter connected to a squeeze for Apple juice. Is there a way to have both water and Apple on second with some kind of service that is hey I detect Apple juice switches the water gets used that Apple juice goes in. When our water goes back. If not I am going to need a third fermentor.

You could use a Buildcraft gate, probably an autarchic iron OR gate. If liquid present in squeezer, output redstone signal. The aqueous accumulator detects the redstone signal and turns off until the squeezer is empty again.

My setup uses water for one fermenter, but the saplings try to fill a second fermenter first that's being fed pulses of both apple juice and honey.
 

MonthOLDpickle

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You could use a Buildcraft gate, probably an autarchic iron OR gate. If liquid present in squeezer, output redstone signal. The aqueous accumulator detects the redstone signal and turns off until the squeezer is empty again.

My setup uses water for one fermenter, but the saplings try to fill a second fermenter first that's being fed pulses of both apple juice and honey.

Where would I put the gate? On the liquid that go from squeezer to fermenter? Water pipe goes into the gate making a T?
 

Larroke

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I have a single fermenter self managing water, apple juice and honey.

The water is default, and then I'm using a router each for juice and honey wax containers. I use a structure pipe/iron gate to trigger another gate (redstone) at the aqueous accumulator to turn it off when there's items in their inventory. Under normal circumstances the redstone only pulses, leaving the accumulator on, but if there is more then a stack of one, or some of each between the fermenter and the routers it will turn off the water flow, and it all just naturally flips around. Once the juice/honey is all used up (freeing up the router inventory) the accumulator is flipped back on and it results in literally no delay flipping between the fluids. The use of wax containers eliminates the need for pipettes as they'll always be consumed in full (especially if you use different bio types such as saplings and reeds as is my case).

I then use golems to pick up and deliver the honey/juice to the system, which keeps everything flowing smoothly.
 

MonthOLDpickle

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How can I get this to work I do not understand! Ignore the first fermentor (will always have water). Second one. I have tried setting up this:

Squeezer to a small glass tank (5 blocks tall) with wooden waterproof transport pipe that has Iron OR gate..supposedly set to Tank Full Send Redstone..the liquid still goes through the pipe! I thought it was suppose to wait for the tank to be full.... IF I ge tthat working I draw a redstone line from the gate to the accumlator to have it turn off right?
 

Berserkenstein

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I have a single fermenter self managing water, apple juice and honey.

The water is default, and then I'm using a router each for juice and honey wax containers. I use a structure pipe/iron gate to trigger another gate (redstone) at the aqueous accumulator to turn it off when there's items in their inventory. Under normal circumstances the redstone only pulses, leaving the accumulator on, but if there is more then a stack of one, or some of each between the fermenter and the routers it will turn off the water flow, and it all just naturally flips around. Once the juice/honey is all used up (freeing up the router inventory) the accumulator is flipped back on and it results in literally no delay flipping between the fluids. The use of wax containers eliminates the need for pipettes as they'll always be consumed in full (especially if you use different bio types such as saplings and reeds as is my case).

I then use golems to pick up and deliver the honey/juice to the system, which keeps everything flowing smoothly.


This seems easier than what I do, which is have a gate on the apple juice pipe set to detect liquid in the pipe and send a redstone signal to a timer/counter combo. It sends to redstone pulses to a waterproof iron pipe at the junction of apple juice/water/fermenter, the redstone pulse changes the orientation of the waterproof iron pipe to let the apple juice through and blocks the water. I had another gate on the apple juice pipe to detect when the pipe was empty and it sent another pulse to change it back. The timer and counter was needed because it needed to change the orientation a few times since there were three possible outputs to the pipe, to the apple juice side, water side and fermenter side.
 

TangentialThreat

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This is the most compact I could make it.

If liquid traversing, redstone signal.

If liquid in tank, energy pulser.

The redstone signal jumps down to the redstone dust next to the aqueous accumulator, which turns it off. Note that the solid end of the wooden transport pipe must face the squeezer so the gate pulls/senses in that direction.

This doesn't burn honey too but that's really easy to do.
 
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MonthOLDpickle

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Okay I got this working.. Squeezer with wooden gate with Iron OR gate set to liquid traversing. It turns the accumlator off and works.

But how can I do this with a small tank? I tried setting the Iron OR gate to tank full but liquid just pumps out.....
 

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This is the pipe nightmare that makes biomass for me. It does stuff to things. Most of the layout follows some kind of logic.

The fermenter on the left always uses water. The one on the right switches between honey and apple juice, honey from the tesseract and juice in a liquiduct you can't see. It also has the nice feature of being mostly self-maintaining because mulch gets sucked out from the squeezer and processed through the same diamond pipes that handle saplings, and there's a backup mulch chest that senses when the left fermenter doesn't have enough mulch and supplies more.[DOUBLEPOST=1367472382][/DOUBLEPOST]
Okay I got this working.. Squeezer with wooden gate with Iron OR gate set to liquid traversing. It turns the accumlator off and works.

But how can I do this with a small tank? I tried setting the Iron OR gate to tank full but liquid just pumps out.....

Post screenshot?
 

MonthOLDpickle

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I think m my mistake was I used a lever on the Redstone engine. Note I have red alloy to both the accumulator and engine. So my tank 6 block high when filed should activate the gate right? This turning the engine on and water machine off.
 

Hydra

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This is going to fail if the fermenter doesn't empty the tank 100%. It's very possible to have a small amount of apple juice remaining in the tank not allowing the water in.

So for automation you're better off just having 2 fermenters.
 

MonthOLDpickle

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When you say you mean not go through? I just watched all the water get eaten up than apple juice go..than that went away..in came the water. Waiting to see if it works with a tank. Unless you mean the lose a sapling or something?
 

Hydra

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To ferment a single sapling you need X mB of liquid. If there's less than that it will block.
 

Abdiel

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To ferment a single sapling you need X mB of liquid. If there's less than that it will block.
However when X evenly divides however much liquid you get from squeezing one apple/honey drop, this will never happen - unless your pipe leaks somewhere. (I don't know if this is actually the case.)
 

Hydra

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However when X evenly divides however much liquid you get from squeezing one apple/honey drop, this will never happen - unless your pipe leaks somewhere. (I don't know if this is actually the case.)

True, but when I tried automating this this is exactly where I got stuck.

And aside from this, it's simply more space efficient to build a second fermenter.