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Extra modifiers in 1.10

Discussion in 'General FTB chat' started by Nemis05, Apr 28, 2017.

  1. Nemis05

    Nemis05 Guest

    I'm wondering if there's a way to get extra modifiers in Tinkers' Construct in 1.10.
    I saw some people suggesting making the tool of magical wood, but in the pack I'm playing (Direwolf20 1.10.2) that isn't possible.
     
  2. Pyure

    Pyure Not Totally Useless

    My understanding is that in 1.10+ extra modifiers are no longer a thing. Hopefully someone will contradict me, given my 1.10 experience is pretty limited, but last time I checked, it seemed you were being incentivized to think carefully about the tools you make, and you can't just make a does-everything-amazingly tool anymore.
     
  3. GamerwithnoGame

    GamerwithnoGame Forum Addict

    Paper parts still allow more modifiers - I believe a full tool made out of paper will allow you to put 5 reinforcement plates on it, rendering it unbreakable.
     
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  4. Pyure

    Pyure Not Totally Useless

    Awesome, thanks for clarifying GWNG.
     
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  5. Nemis05

    Nemis05 Guest

    I'd like to get a tool wich is both unbreakable and has some other modifiers like haste or sharp.
     
  6. Inaeo

    Inaeo New Member

    I've come to the conclusion that making an axe or pickaxe (probably shovel, too) with a single copper component and then putting moss on it is pretty close to unbreakable. It will mend itself by consuming XP, which it creates when it does what it was meant to do. Having a wooden tool part will also make it slowly repair, so if you do both, the effect is quite nice. Also note that the tool with moss will repair from any XP you collect, so if I need to quickly repair my pick, I chop down a few trees with my (copper binding) lumber axe.

    Asking for an unbreakable tool that does other things we'll doesn't really fly in 1.10, which IMO is better for balance.
     
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  7. MrMonsterGuy18

    MrMonsterGuy18 Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it is a tinkers construct addon or not but there are item you can craft which if put on a a tool give it an extra modifier
     
  8. Cptqrk

    Cptqrk Popular Member

    If you use tinkers' tool leveling mod, you can gain extra modifiers over time (use = tool exp etc)
     
  9. ChemE

    ChemE New Member

    This. I recently put a lumber axe in an EIO farming station with an octo cap planting spruce trees...things got nuts. It is currently unbreakable, has 5 modifiers remaining and I've got 550k spruce logs in my AE system.
     
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  10. triggerfinger12

    triggerfinger12 Well-Known Member

    That would be adding a nether star, i believe. Also, I think there is still the gold block and diamond thing, and the notch apple and diamond block thing
     
  11. ShneekeyTheLost

    ShneekeyTheLost Too Much Free Time

    Back in 1.7.10, but not in 1.10.2. In 1.10.2 the nether star does something else... Soulbound I believe? So it stays with you if you die. The others simply don't work.
     
  12. MacAisling

    MacAisling Popular Member

  13. ShneekeyTheLost

    ShneekeyTheLost Too Much Free Time

  14. RenzosNips

    RenzosNips New Member

    Your version of balance and other's version of balance may differ. Remember the reason RF exists? Because the BC team didn't think storing MJ was balanced, and KL did. (Well, plus other reasons like server efficiency but..)
    Also, it has 800k downloads.
     
  15. Inaeo

    Inaeo New Member

    ...I don't even know where to begin trying to correct this, but in the end it would only derail the thread. Suffice to say the creation of RF was more a coder not wanting to keep carrying decimals through his code than any balance issue (hence why they continued to play nicely together all this time).

    Your original statement, however, is correct. Everyone defines balance differently, especially when designing packs. That said, TiCo for 1.10 feels (to me) more balanced than it's 1.7 counterpart. Actual tradeoffs exist now, where before you could just build the best tool, then slap resources (maybe too few for the power) at it to make it godly.

    My issue with add-ons for TiCo (and many add-on mods in general) is the internal balance within the mod is usually either skewed badly or outright disregarded when adding additional content (in this case materials and modifiers). Remember ExtraTiC and Signalum Crossbows? Hella fun, but completely broken in most packs. Remember when the nerf hammer dropped to fix the gross unbalance? You still see the occasional butthurt thread about it even now, usually asking what version to downgrade into to get their OP toys back. I'm not accusing the 1.10 add-on of this, as I've not played it. It's more of me being burned before.

    Different strokes for different folks.
     
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