In one of the newer versions of GregTech, scrap (chance: 60%) is one of the possible loots of a scrapbox. But there is a config option to disable it.
Exploit?
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I wasn't assuming that, I was assuming it was part of an IC update, when apparently it's GregTech. Oh well
That'll seriously nerf any scrapbox-item generators for sure!
Of course, there will always be server owners that offer to enchant people's IC2 gear with /enchant for diamond blocks or something as payment. People always find a way to do what they want.
On my server, I reduced the amount of kills for every spawner to 64 in the config, and disabled Vile Swords. Good luck getting your t5 spawners then! I had to actively search for barrows, then go to the forest and get the spawners there, as well. EVEN THEN I had only a tier 4, and needed another 3-4 spawners before I could hit t5.
Dunno which version you're on but we're on the latest DW modpack and it works just fine there.
Problem there is that you used Solar Power. That's a massive exploit really, just like the energy collectors in EE2. You built a system that required no further input. If you built a system that didn't use IC2 renewable energy, or a system that used renewable energy across mods, you'd have had a bigger build, and more satisfaction.
If anything, recyclers should use more power then they currently do. They should be an energy sink.
Actually the recycler and scrap boxes are the same as EE2 really. The different items you get are just limited and random. It's kind of balanced when you have to manually put the items in but with automatic cobble gens and heck, just chickens popping eggs and pipes it's not balanced anymore. There are many things in vanilla that are easily reproducable but they all require different builds that take a long time to build, too. The scrapbox setup is quite simple. I feel it's an unnecessary thing, just lower the cost of UUM without scrap and remover Recyclers. Although UUM is kind of the same thing but required in vanilla IC2. I should stop with this ranting, though, I really gave the mod a chance but it failed. It doesn't seem like the development is going anywhere. There hasn't been anything new added for a long time. GT is basically IC2 revamped and there are so many addons to it that the base mod has less stuff than them.
Yeah that's the problem with modding, the mods will eventually box your game in and you'll have nowhere to expand. This is way Mojang has a "we can use any of your mod ideas in vanilla" rule in place. Same goes for mod addons. Abblakka could go and add industrial furnaces and whatnot, but....
Very true, it's only the randomness and power requirements that "balance" it when used with other mods.
I agree with IC2 too, seems to be stuck in a hole. Even if no new blocks are added, it would be nice if it, and other tech mods would talk with King Lem and introduce similar GUI design of configuring input and output sides, and automatically eject items if there is a valid destination.
Hardly. I have one running now (8 recyclers) just for the heck of it and it's an incredibly inefficient way of getting anything. It's much more complex to set up and simply have some quarries and the amount of stuff you get is nowhere near the output of a single quarry.
I set one up just to see if it works and what kind of items you get from it, and it's simply not worth the effort to set up. Especially not on a server where you'll have farms for pretty much everything after a while. Sure I got some diamonds from it and some gold but it's nowhere near the amount I already got from my quarries.
Strange. I find them pretty simple to setup, and I must have had a stack of gold, iron, coal dust generated by now (using 5 recyclers, only one constantly fed with cobblestone, the rest muching through overflow). It's just a lottery system for bonus resources from anything you class as "Trash".
Besides, more interesting to build a recycler + scrapbox system then a void pipe.
I personally have found them invaluable in my current game world. They are my source of Leather, as I have found no cows at all anywhere near my base to get a farm up and running. Without the recyclers, getting TC3 research & crafting done and making use off my XP would have been a lot more difficult.
Besides, more interesting to build a recycler + scrapbox system then a void pipe.
I personally have found them invaluable in my current game world. They are my source of Leather, as I have found no cows at all anywhere near my base to get a farm up and running. Without the recyclers, getting TC3 research & crafting done and making use off my XP would have been a lot more difficult.
I currently have one recycler with a cobblegen above it sitting in a corner. When I remember it, I got there and get a stack of scrap to turn it into 7 boxes for a little lottery.
It was a deliberate decision not to automate the scrapbox generation, so it won't be OP. Just a little bonus for the fun of the lottery. Some will still say, that it is OP, because I get (random) stuff for the small cost of ~2300 EU each. But hey, it is my SSP, not theirs
It was a deliberate decision not to automate the scrapbox generation, so it won't be OP. Just a little bonus for the fun of the lottery. Some will still say, that it is OP, because I get (random) stuff for the small cost of ~2300 EU each. But hey, it is my SSP, not theirs
I currently have one recycler with a cobblegen above it sitting in a corner. When I remember it, I got there and get a stack of scrap to turn it into 7 boxes for a little lottery.
It was a deliberate decision not to automate the scrapbox generation, so it won't be OP. Just a little bonus for the fun of the lottery. Some will still say, that it is OP, because I get (random) stuff for the small cost of ~2300 EU each. But hey, it is my SSP, not theirs
This is how i tend to use the recycler too. got to do something with all the random, not really useful stuff that i tend to pick up all over when derping around outside at night. I always keep a stack of each item tho. the rest i may recycle if i currently does not have a use for it. I recycle zombie flesh mostly. I don't care if you can can it in a cannery, and then eat it safely. I ain't eat'n no Zombies.
surplus flax seeds also fin their way into my cyclers every now and then. having a few around is ok, but I don't need a chestful, There is never going to be that big a need for tube paint.
Besides. gambling is fun.
Initially i was skeptical of the scrapbox setup, thought it would too OP, but after a server member built a relatively large one and we monitored it for a few weeks, i have had to conclude that its not OP. You get a lot of junk, hardly anything valuable. Its now only being used for filled cans for quantum armor, leather, paper, and feathers. We get a few diamonds and rare dusts, gems, etc. But its pittance compared to quarrying, either with BC or RP2. I also read that the values (%) for obtaining rarer items will be nerfed/ have been nerfed even further, but dont quote me on this. We just divert most the scrap to a matter fabricator now.
However, i would recommend turning off scrap as fuel option. I think its in the gregtech config files, or maybe bc/ ic2. Dont remember exactly ^^
However, i would recommend turning off scrap as fuel option. I think its in the gregtech config files, or maybe bc/ ic2. Dont remember exactly ^^
you kinda have to do that just to make it compete with a good old diamond pick with silk touch on it. And it's still be slower than a diamond pick with eff4 and silk touch on it.